DaveArkley Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 I have a gaggle of Farish Peaks, two Class 44s, two 45s and two 46s which I'd like to renumber to haul the St Pancreas-Edinburgh trains. Can anyone advise on appropriate numbers and dates for suitable locomotives, along with advice on disc/central box/split box configurations on those dates. Links to photographs would be appreciated. I have a few already: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/gallery/image/14929-dent-head-class-45-d34-down-waverley-may-66jpg D19 - Split box? -1964 - TWR post war years p27 D20 - Split box -1962 - TWR post war years p12 D24 - Split box -1965 - Last years of TWR p36 Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Dave. Come to the forums own Waverley Route group where our experienced members are ready and waiting to take your enquiries...! Oh. You're here! I'll get me coat... Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveArkley Posted June 29, 2011 Author Share Posted June 29, 2011 Err I'm still knitting my Waverley coat! From my reading of the Derby Suzlers site I've concluded that no 44s ran on the Waverley, or non were allocated to sheds that far North. So I guess I'm looking at these in addition to those I mentioned earlier.: D12 - http://www.flickr.co...009/5669357483/ D26 - http://www.flickr.co...57608177268125/ D18 - http://www.flickr.co...57608177268125/ Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Dave, It's all here, in my blog: http://www.rmweb.co....e-the-wr-rails/ Enjoy EDIT: and THIS might be of interest... http://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/5793667319 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37175 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 EDIT: and THIS might be of interest... http://www.flickr.co...rnie/5793667319 Wow! Lovin' that one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 You see why it's my contender for photo of the year The searchlight signal, the whole window hanging experience, the direct 'Waverley' carriage boards in use in May '68 - one assumes the timetable had changed recently, the street scene, approaching Type 3. It is awesome, and unashamedly it also features on the Most Wanted thread, where Dave and I have been dissecting it. Just didn't want you Peak Army types to miss out on the fun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishswissernie Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Unfortunately the 'Waverley nameboards are a bit of 'fraud'! train was an LCGB special. Here it is at Waverley. regards ERnie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveArkley Posted June 30, 2011 Author Share Posted June 30, 2011 Trumps again guys, really useful thanks. Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveArkley Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 OK, I'm going for D26 as here http://www.flickr.com/photos/16236990@N08/2959031486/in/set-72157608177268125/ and D18 as here http://www.flickr.com/photos/16236990@N08/2967500884/in/set-72157608177268125/ Am I correct in thinking that the appropriate head-box codes are 1M88 for the up and 1S68 for the down 'Thames-Clyde'? Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Dave; 1M86 for the Thames - Clyde. 1M88 is the up Waverley, with the down being 1S64. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37175 Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 One of the earlier numbered class 45s to work the route was D14, seen here at Hawick in one of Bruce's photos: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=23706 This is also one of the handful to survive into preservation, though for how much longer is not clear as it is due to be scrapped pretty soon: http://www.preserved-diesels.co.uk/engines/45015_index.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 A bit of a sorry loss, Matt. The WRHA could use it! Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37175 Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 It's a bit too far gone unfortunately ... the bodywork needs pretty much complete replacement, the power unit needs a full overhaul and I think most of the electrics have been stripped. Plus, one of the wheelsets is on a skate at the mo, new leaf spring or axle bearing required, can't recall which at the mo. I can't see it being restored TBH, and in any case it's got shaved noses so would need new access doors fitted along with split boxes to look anything like that great photo of Bruce's. Damn shame, even though I'm not really a Peak fan I do realise the significance of this particular loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Way too far gone, guys. Shame, as she has significance to the WR - and would be particularly resonant in a restored-to-original-condition state. On the subject of Peaks, I confess to being something of a fair weather fan, because when the powers that be caused their nose ends to heal up they lost their visual attraction (in my eyes). When they were early blue TOPS, the random idiosyncrasies of the noses was fantastic, and I was a massive childhood fan. Still rode behind them when I had the chance, and some great runs were had behind ex-WR machines - the Leicester - Sheffield milk train going home from gigs in the latter years of the 45s' career stick in my mind. But not until I immersed myself fully in the Waverley did my love of them come flooding back, the Waverley and Peaks are intertwined. Don't forget that as D14, 45015 also went through the single panel headcode variant, and in all probability worked across the WR in this guise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerhillboy Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Dave Are you going to be doing the bogie narrowing job on the GF peak? Always a nice improvement if you can be bothered with it. I've got a peak sitting in exactly the same boat, i.e needing a WR identity, so I'll erm just be copying you;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveArkley Posted October 10, 2011 Author Share Posted October 10, 2011 Dave Are you going to be doing the bogie narrowing job on the GF peak? Always a nice improvement if you can be bothered with it. I've got a peak sitting in exactly the same boat, i.e needing a WR identity, so I'll erm just be copying you;-) I willl, or rather Ian of Mercig Studios will. I'm having the centre code boxes of a 'Royal Artillaryman' body converted to split boxes, which to be honest is a bit beyond my modelling skills. I've asked him to super detail one end, add a driver, narrow the bogies renumber and mucky her up. I understand he's working on it right now, I'll post piccies when it arrives. Cheers Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Stewart Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 D60 Lytham St Annes from the last night was another Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerhillboy Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I willl, or rather Ian of Mercig Studios will. I'm having the centre code boxes of a 'Royal Artillaryman' body converted to split boxes, which to be honest is a bit beyond my modelling skills. I've asked him to super detail one end, add a driver, narrow the bogies renumber and mucky her up. I understand he's working on it right now, I'll post piccies when it arrives. Cheers Dave. Complete coincidence but I just narrowed a D163 over the weekend and had previously detailed one end. I also change the route indicator boxes to WR specials at both ends. I'll post mines as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 For those who are interested, there's a WR Peak database here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/585/entry-6506-twin-peaks-or-a-tale-of-brsulzer-sixteen-wheelers-to-ride-the-wr-rails/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerhillboy Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 A very crude shot from the dark of d163 progressing, finished item will be published in WR models thread in due course 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roygraham Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 When did Peaks on the WR start using brake tenders? roygraham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 When did Peaks on the WR start using brake tenders? Hmmmmmmmm..... I wasn't aware of any evidence that Peaks did, to be honest, Roy. I've seen footage of an EE Type 4 menacing one at Riccarton, but nothing else. I would have thought that their principal use on Class 1s and less so on the express car-trains later in the decade would have precluded brake tenders. Unless of course, you're about to tantalize with some other traffic from the '62 - '63 period that we've not seen before, that is! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roygraham Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Hmmmmmmmm..... I wasn't aware of any evidence that Peaks did, to be honest, Roy. I've seen footage of an EE Type 4 menacing one at Riccarton, but nothing else. I would have thought that their principal use on Class 1s and less so on the express car-trains later in the decade would have precluded brake tenders. Unless of course, you're about to tantalize with some other traffic from the '62 - '63 period that we've not seen before, that is! I have a picture 'somewhere' of one pulling some ECS off the Border Counties at Riccarton. I'll try to dig it out. roygraham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveArkley Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 Not sure if these have been linked before. Pictures of the Thames-Clyde and Waverley Peak hauled in 1961 about halfway down the page, although somewhat south of the WR itself. http://www.davidheyscollectionextra.com/page12.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveArkley Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 I have a picture 'somewhere' of one pulling some ECS off the Border Counties at Riccarton. I'll try to dig it out. roygraham Any joy tracking this down Roy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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