sulzeruk Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 5320 looks like it had round buffers and square steps from new from this picture. http://www.flickr.co...ins/5258104982/] Alasdair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Brush Veteran said in post #33 that it was new with Oleos, it may have been that pic that he's seen. Having said that, it looks odd to me, the shadings and reflections don't look natural, as if it's an artist's impression superimposed on a photographic background. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulzeruk Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Will just be a touched in picture which seemed to be common practice for most manuafacturers. Alasdair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Yeah, I appreciate that Alasdair, my point is that it might not be 100% reliable... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 If I may be allowed to bump this topic for 2013! I appreciate that my choice of thread may not be quite within its timescale either as I am probably looking at pre-1967! My reasons for doing so are probably quite obvious but now Heljan are actually working on the CAD for the as built 26/0, I am wondering if any of you knowledgable people have any more info regarding the liveries carried. The first tooling will be for as built and allocated to the ER at Hornsey and as initially transferred to Scotland. Period 1959-62. The criteria is:- A. Original circular engine exhaust outlet and sliding shield over boiler vent B. Original gangway doors still in place The above criteria represents the intial tooling for the as built first twenty locomotives D5300-19. So far I have come up with three variations that can be applied to the livery for this first batch :- 1) D5300 BR Brunswick green with white relief, running numbers positioned higher on cabsides with number 'sitting' on top of bodyside stripe datum line. 2). D5301 As D5300 but with running numbers centred between the white stripe, 'A' side bodyside crest positioned at radiator end of loco rather than the normal position at the opposite end. 3). D5302 BR Brunswick green with white relief and small yellow warning panels. 4). D5303-19 BR Brunswick green with white relief. At this stage I have not come up with any evidence of more examples of variation 3, although I have a strong feeling that there probably were more than one. I also don't believe any of these received blue livery whilst in this condition (A), although there were a couple in B, I'd love to be proved wrong though! I also appreciate that D5300-3 had their lamp irons in a different position initially being supplemented by additional irons in the normal side positions once moved to Scotland. All of the above is relevant to how long the tooling will be in place before it would be modified for the next tranistional stages, i.e. modified exhausts, sealed up gangway doors. Heljan would probably be looking at producing at least two runs of each transitional batch, dependant of course on how they sell. The underframes do not present a problem as most of the components are already produced, apart from the transverse leaf spring bogie sideframes. This model is quite well advanced so I expect to be checking colour layouts quite soon........so no pressure!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 If I may be allowed to bump this topic for 2013! I appreciate that my choice of thread may not be quite within its timescale either as I am probably looking at pre-1967! My reasons for doing so are probably quite obvious but now Heljan are actually working on the CAD for the as built 26/0, I am wondering if any of you knowledgable people have any more info regarding the liveries carried. The first tooling will be for as built and allocated to the ER at Hornsey and as initially transferred to Scotland. Period 1959-62. The criteria is:- A. Original circular engine exhaust outlet and sliding shield over boiler vent B. Original gangway doors still in place The above criteria represents the intial tooling for the as built first twenty locomotives D5300-19. So far I have come up with three variations that can be applied to the livery for this first batch :- 1) D5300 BR Brunswick green with white relief, running numbers positioned higher on cabsides with number 'sitting' on top of bodyside stripe datum line. 2). D5301 As D5300 but with running numbers centred between the white stripe, 'A' side bodyside crest positioned at radiator end of loco rather than the normal position at the opposite end. 3). D5302 BR Brunswick green with white relief and small yellow warning panels. 4). D5303-19 BR Brunswick green with white relief. At this stage I have not come up with any evidence of more examples of variation 3, although I have a strong feeling that there probably were more than one. I also don't believe any of these received blue livery whilst in this condition (A), although there were a couple in B, I'd love to be proved wrong though! I also appreciate that D5300-3 had their lamp irons in a different position initially being supplemented by additional irons in the normal side positions once moved to Scotland. All of the above is relevant to how long the tooling will be in place before it would be modified for the next tranistional stages, i.e. modified exhausts, sealed up gangway doors. Heljan would probably be looking at producing at least two runs of each transitional batch, dependant of course on how they sell. The underframes do not present a problem as most of the components are already produced, apart from the transverse leaf spring bogie sideframes. This model is quite well advanced so I expect to be checking colour layouts quite soon........so no pressure!!!! Have just completed checking the colour layouts for these and have found another green syp example with as built exhaust outlets in the shape of D5317. More examples need to be found before the tooling gets altered for the later exhausts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Saxton Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Further to the slow speed bunch, I reckon I've now whittled down the last survivors in green, from photographic records. At Xmas 1968 I reckon 5319 was on the cusp of becoming blue, 5318 was destined to remain blue well into '69, 5335 was GFYE and 5338 was still in GSYP, going blue in late '69. With the exception of 5300-06, this must surely be the quickest ScR reliverying job of the transition era. Repainted blue around October 1969. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted October 13, 2013 Author Share Posted October 13, 2013 I only just noticed that great bit of gen, Russell. Fantastic! I was looking for this thread, because I needed somewhere to post this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/curly42/5359282807/lightbox/ In case you, dear casual observer, aren't tempted by the known quality of what we share with our viewers in the Transition Liveries Group, I'll let you know what's at the end of that link: D5332 GSYP, July '69! Along with D5338 this is the second 60A BRCW known to have definitely worked the Waverley route in this livery. I can now aspire to a total of five green 26s, I think: 5318/9/32/5/8. Marvellous! I'm also prepared to believe that this (which we had a page or so back), also taken by Curly42 in July '69 of a GSYP loco at Inverness, is D5332 with its unique blue cab door. I want to model this immediately, is it bed time yet? http://www.flickr.com/photos/curly42/5453698777/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted April 10, 2014 Author Share Posted April 10, 2014 D5326 still running in September '68 in GSYP. https://www.flickr.com/photos/59835095@N02/6263469656/in/photolist-axtVj9-b1dXKH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted April 9, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 9, 2016 I've been looking at this long dormant subject recently... For the record I now have the following GSYP survivors into at least late-1968: D5300/1/6/18/19/23/26/29/30/32/33/38/42. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Saxton Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Dates to blue as far as i can ascertain.5300 Circa May 1972 5301 By 21/4/73.(last green) 5302 By 29/10/67 as D5302 5303 By 17/5/69 seen at GWKS 5304 April 1967 as D5304 5305 April 1967 as D5305 5306 Circa May 1971. 5307 April 1967 as D5307 5308 By July 1969 5309 March 1968 as D5309 5310 Before October 1968 as D5310 5311 April 1967 as D5311 (retained cabside arrows till 1974 as 26011). 5312 Pre Oct 1968 as D5312 5313 By 17/9/67 as D5313 5314 November 1967 as D5314 5315 Circa December 68 5316 By June 1968 (poss earlier) as D5316 5317 By April 1970 5318 Circa May1970 5319 By Sept 1969 5320 April 1967 as D5320 5321 Before October 1968 as D5321 5322 By July 1969 5323 Before October 1968 as D5323 5324 Pre September 1968 as D5324 5325 by 29/10/67 as D5325 5326 After September 1968 5327 April 1967 as D5327 5328 By April 1968 as D5328 5329 After April 1969, before April 1970. 5330 Nov/Dec 1969 5331 April 1967 as D5331 (standard blue by Aug 73) 5332 Late 1969/Early 1970 5333 between April and July1970 5334 March 1969 5335 By May 1973 5336 By end of 1967 as D5336 5337 By 29/10/67 as D5337 5338 By Sept 1969 5339 By Aug 1968 as D5339 5340 Nov 1967 as D5340 5341 Before October 1968 as D5341.. 5342 Before September 68 as D5342 5343 March 1967 as D5343 5344 Pre 10/68 as D5344 5345 March1968 as D5345 5346 Before Oct 1968 as D5346 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted July 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2017 Reviving an old thread, which 26's had BFYE, not yellow wraparound the cabside windows, with arrows on doors? As currently modelled by 5343 at the GWSR. Sure I've seen a photo on here recently, can't find it though. cheers N Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted August 1, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 1, 2017 I believe D5343 was the only one like this. https://www.flickr.com/photos/68861278@N03/10816599023/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted August 1, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 1, 2017 I believe D5343 was the only one like this. https://www.flickr.com/photos/68861278@N03/10816599023/ Thanks. I wasn't expecting 5343 to be the actual one, I thought it was just reviving a livery worn by another loco! This isn't actually the photo I was thinking of, I'm sure I've seen one on a depot somewhere. Here is the beast at last weekend's GWSR diesel gala (albeit without tablet catcher recess):- https://flic.kr/p/WCvkbu Big kudos to the GWSR for dolling 5343 up like this. Now their next challenge is to give us 24081 like this:- https://flic.kr/p/enxPkk https://flic.kr/p/8989dj Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Bumping this topic again for a question that I hope has not been asked before. I missed out on the last £61 class 26 with GSYP so with money burning a hole in my pocket I relieved Hattons of one of their models of D5309 which is also £61 but without yellow panels. Does anyone have dates for when this loco received its warning panels or when the last class 26 went into GSYP? Thanks Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted August 7, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 7, 2017 It seems yellow ends were acquired generally over the period from Feb 1962 to about Sep 1963, but there were a handful that lasted into 1964, and D5306 looks like it made it into 1965 without yellow ends. The earliest photo of D5309 I've seen with yellow ends is June 1963, but it could have had them quite a while earlier. BWR087 - Perth by Bill Wright, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Thanks Stovepipe, think I will run it without for a while without the panels just to have something a bit different. The layout is set in 1965 (plus or minus 2 years) so with a bit of license it will be OK. Cheers Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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