BR(S) Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Here it is https://www.Dapol.co.uk/Dapol-OO-Gauge-Turbot-Update Is it general knowledge they are also releasing the Bogie Bolster E at the same time, as noted at the bottom of the info sheet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Here it is https://www.Dapol.co.uk/Dapol-OO-Gauge-Turbot-Update Nice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Looks quite good! Looking forward to some painted EPs. Not only have they shown EPs but also the artwork. So I hope if anyone spots any errors it can be passed onto Dapol. Edited April 27, 2018 by MGR Hooper! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted April 27, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 27, 2018 That must be a record distance for the tension lock to protrude beyond the buffer faces........................ Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted April 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 27, 2018 That must be a record distance for the tension lock to protrude beyond the buffer faces........................ Cheers, Mick Yes, it's unfortunate in a modern product, but still not quite as bad as old Lima. It was possible to sqeeze an extra wagon in a rake once all the couplings had been replaced! I like the look of these otherwise, hopefully the couplings could be eased in. Mind you, the first FTG SPAs had couplings too far in, didn't they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 That must be a record distance for the tension lock to protrude beyond the buffer faces........................ Cheers, Mick Maybe, but go the other way: I remember double heading Lima 50's n a layout with 3' radius curves.. Buffer lock!, Buffer Lock!, Buffer lock! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mevaman Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Trusses look too deep. For me this was the problem with the Kernow Turbots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Trusses look too deep. For me this was the problem with the Kernow Turbots. Compared to the artwork it does, but still looks better than Kernow's attempt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) Here's two images from Dapol laid over each other. Make of it what you like, I personally feel that Dapol has done a better job of it than KMRC, it's quite close to the drawing for the artwork and that looks quite good. I think it's just got to do with the angles etc. Quite clear that the EP's underframe trussing isn't fixed on properly as the left hand side seems to be a better match as compared to the right hand side which seems to sag a little. Edited April 28, 2018 by MGR Hooper! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 That must be a record distance for the tension lock to protrude beyond the buffer faces........................ Cheers, Mick They are however giving customers the option of using the Dapol "Instanter" couplings and also "NEM compatible drawbars" along with each wagon, hopefully they will improve the the distance? Tension-locks can then be used on the outer ends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejstubbs Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Anyone else think, when they first came across this thread, that it was going to be a follow-on from this one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mevaman Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Here's two images from Dapol laid over each other. Make of it what you like, I personally feel that Dapol has done a better job of it than KMRC, it's quite close to the drawing for the artwork and that looks quite good. I think it's just got to do with the angles etc. 1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg Quite clear that the EP's underframe trussing isn't fixed on properly as the left hand side seems to be a better match as compared to the right hand side which seems to sag a little. Sorry whilst I accept the one side has not been fitted properly I am definitely not convinced. The trusses look too deep. This may be an optical illusion but I am sceptical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 The two pictures that MGR Hooper has overlaid are not completely of the model in the same position. The ep photo is not of the model straight on to the side, you can establish this as the top of the opposite side is visible above the nearer side as is the far truss. This has the effect of appearing to lengthen the trusses. If they are the same as the cad picture they should be pretty accurate. Certainly they have the brake hanger vertical bar attached to the angled truss, which wasn't the case with the Kernow model, where the brake vertical bar was too high up the truss. I modified my Kernow models to reduce the bogie/underframe gap and reduce the truss height and these Dapol eps look to be accurate to the photos I used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Sorry whilst I accept the one side has not been fitted properly I am definitely not convinced. The trusses look too deep. This may be an optical illusion but I am sceptical. No need to apologize, I've posted that with a general view and my opinion. And as always opinions will be divided. I clearly see a huge improvement over the KMRC version and it's acceptable to my eyes and maybe some others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 The Dapol advert in the September 2018 Hornby magazine, lists the first 4 Turbot models in 'oo' gauge as August releases - 2 in ews and 2 in BR engineers Dutch liveries. There are 1st decorated sample photos for both liveries in the advert. The underframe looks to be spot on compared to the over depth trusses on the Kernow model and the bogies appear to be closer to the underframe. Have held off from ordering the 2nd release versions from Kernow and now I've seen these will order some Dapol versions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Don't know if this has been posted anywhere, but there are decorated samples here from four weeks ago: https://digest.Dapol.co.uk/forum/main-forum/freight-stock/departmental-stock/turbot/project-managers-blog-aw/7476-ycv-turbot-update-decorated-samples 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Foden Posted August 14, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 14, 2018 Very nice indeed. Looking forward very much to these. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Anyone know if Dapol plan to issue the Dutch Turbot's with alternative running no's ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Anyone know if Dapol plan to issue the Dutch Turbot's with alternative running no's ? In the first releases there are 3 dutch livery versions with different running numbers. Dapol's normal way is to produce further running numbers after the first sell out, however as there is a competing model from Kernow, these may take longer to sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Is the consensus of opinion the Dapol Turbot is more accurate than the Kernow version ? or is there a bit good and bad in both etc... TIA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Is the consensus of opinion the Dapol Turbot is more accurate than the Kernow version ? or is there a bit good and bad in both etc... TIA Wait and see and then vote with your wallet! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Is the consensus of opinion the Dapol Turbot is more accurate than the Kernow version ? or is there a bit good and bad in both etc... TIA Dapol seems to be the better option! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) From the ep samples, the Dapol version has more accurate side trusses to the chassis. The Kernow chassis has overdeep side trusses and is also much too high in respect of body and buffer height. I corrected the buffer height problem by filing off the raised moulding on top of the bogies, however this exacerbates the overdeep trusses and I ended up doing major surgery on this part of the model. I've decided to go for the Dapol version to extend my fleet and also their version of the Bogie Bolster E as this will have the same chassis. The Dapol spec indicates their Turbot will have posable drop down sides, so interested to see how that operates. Edited October 8, 2018 by rembrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37501 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Any word on the Turbots appearing yet please? I am really looking forward to buying a rake of the Dutch liveried ones. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Any word on the Turbots appearing yet please? I am really looking forward to buying a rake of the Dutch liveried ones. John They are imminent. The latest Dapol product release info posted by Gaugemaster on 6th October, shows an October release for all versions (3 EWS and 3 Dutch livery). This could slip to November I suspect, based on past new releases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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