jonhall Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) Lee's mention this morning of his fastfreight bogie etch.. http://www.rmweb.co....__fromsearch__1 ..has reminded me that I've promised to re-run an etched sheet I did to convert the Lima (now Hornby) later Procor built UKF palvan, to the earlier Gloucester/BREL built batches of van. These arn't an absolutely faithful conversion, as the various builders seem to ahve managed to build several different lengths of van, but it gives a bit of visual variety. If anyone would like a set, plese could you send me a PM and I'll make sure enough get etched - they are likely to cost bout £2.50 per wagon. The first run was done in 12 thou nickle silver, but that was a bit thin and needed reinforcing with L section, the next batch will be 18thou brass to beef them up a bit. Two sets of etches the etch reinforced fitted to a wagon - showing Lee's bogies In primer As a complete rake Discussion on the old forum about these vans Jon Edited October 3, 2011 by jonhall 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted October 4, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 4, 2011 Hi - like the look of these, I only want a short rake so I'd probably only need 1 etch; if that's enough to get you making a batch I'll PM my details to you. One question - you show the van in primer, then a completed rake; where did you get the UKF transfers from? If they are available, it might be an option to buy up other liveries 7 not just restrict to UKF examples.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 (edited) Hi - like the look of these, I only want a short rake so I'd probably only need 1 etch; if that's enough to get you making a batch I'll PM my details to you. One question - you show the van in primer, then a completed rake; where did you get the UKF transfers from? If they are available, it might be an option to buy up other liveries 7 not just restrict to UKF examples.... I did them myself on crafty computer paper - unfortunately I can't upload a word document here, but i've attached the jpgs - they look a bit wonky on screen, but are fine once printed. Jon Edited October 4, 2011 by jonhall 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 There are some available on eBay too - type in "UKF" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted October 5, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 5, 2011 Thanks Jon - very decent of you to make the images available like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boscarne Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Jon, that's a very useful etch there, you'll have another PM... For anyone using the UKF transfers from ebay, available here; http://stores.ebay.c...13&_vc=1&_pgn=3 Be aware that they appear to have copied the Hornby re-release, so the UKF lettering is a little too large and the 'Fertilizers' lettering is brown rather than green. Guess how I found that out ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted November 12, 2011 Author Share Posted November 12, 2011 For those that sent me a PM - I have had a delivery - once I've finished with Tolworth Showtrain, I'll send out some more PM's, or if you are at our show tomorrow you might be able to pick them up. Thanks, Jon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 I've just discovered this photo http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidwf2009/6564897383/in/photostream Looks like the leading wagon is a flat top conversion (was there only one? ) and third back appears to be the 'gull-wing' Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 22, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2012 I've just discovered this photo http://www.flickr.co.../in/photostream Looks like the leading wagon is a flat top conversion (was there only one? ) and third back appears to be the 'gull-wing' Jon Unique Jon, LS7050, W H Davis, 1975. When built and in it's early days of service it was in all over stainless steel. Got the number of the big bird somewhere but can't find it. Watch this space! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted January 22, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2012 Hi, thanks for the link to the flat top version & the further info. I'd seen a pic of that one in a book on the North Devon line & did wonder what it was about! Can't imagine it in stainless steel finish though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
(The) Youth Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Unique Jon, LS7050, W H Davis, 1975. When built and in it's early days of service it was in all over stainless steel. Got the number of the big bird somewhere but can't find it. Watch this space! Do you know when it got rebuilt as the original LS7050 didn't have the trussing along the side?? Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted January 30, 2012 Author Share Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) Do you know when it got rebuilt as the original LS7050 didn't have the trussing along the side?? Simon I did have doubts when I first saw that, but didn't have my notes (which I left on the DEMU forum) I think there was another different type, with a slightly pitched roof, I haven't found photo's on line, but I'm sure there are some in one or other of those things made of dead wood - I might have to go and have a look now. EDIT yes BR vans v2 (G. Gamble) LS7007 in Kemira blue.. The other photo I've seen of the gullwing conversion is here: http://www.flickr.co...57603195747980/ Jon Edited January 30, 2012 by jonhall 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
(The) Youth Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Jon, Just looked and you mentioned that 7007 was rebuilt with a flat roof which would tie in with trussing along the side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meld Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I did have doubts when I first saw that, but didn't have my notes (which I left on the DEMU forum) I think there was another different type, with a slightly pitched roof, I haven't found photo's on line, but I'm sure there are some in one or other of those things made of dead wood - I might have to go and have a look now. EDIT yes BR vans v2 (G. Gamble) LS7007 in Kemira blue.. The other photo I've seen of the gullwing conversion is here: http://www.flickr.co...57603195747980/ Jon Ahem ...... "So, if I've read the older David Ratcliffe book correctly 7001-7030 (30) Gloucester 1968 curtainsides rebuilt with ridgid sides c1971 (L&S) 7031-7048 (18) BREL ashford 1971 (L&S) 7150-7167 (18) BREL ashford 1972 (BRT) 7300-7324 (25) Procor 1975 (Lima model) 7049 (1) Procor 1975 to replace damaged 7013 7168 (1) Procor 1975 to replace damaged 7168 7050 (1) WH Davies 1975 experimental flat roof - originally plain stainless steel livery. 7167 had Gloucester GPS bogies as built 7007 rebuilt with flatter roof (and others?) 7029 rebuild with gullwing doors. " HTH Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) Here's a few pics showing an UKF train at Hooton; I thought I had better photos of the wagons - if I do, they're hiding! Taken on a sunday in 1979/80 (during the week they ran via Middlewich). Arriving from West Cheshire Jcn and going into the run round sidings. Leaving for Chester and points south (Truro or Gillingham, I think) Going away. On August bank holiday 1978 I was lucky enough to be given a cab ride on 47 028 from Ince to Crewe on one of these trains. This photo was taken in the UKF sidings at Ince. The loco is going to propel the train up to West Cheshire Junction and then travel via Hooton to Crewe. This was because Middlewich box was closed due to the bank holiday I was told photography was frowned on by UKF so I couldn't have a wander over to the ex BR class 10 they used to have and had to be content with this one shot. Edited February 1, 2012 by flyingsignalman 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 Nice photos, the WHDavies wagon just creeps into the edge of that going away shot. Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Dragging it back, but some in service pictures from (I think) 1979 here. Some nice rolling stock shots generally in this collection. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted October 10, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2012 I better check if any of my fleet need mods, got 3 AFAIR, got 6 real numbers to change them to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRAILRAGE Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Ill take two wagons worth if that helps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 Ill take two wagons worth if that helps The last batch all found new homes, so I don't have any in stock, and its not worth getting another sheet done until I need about a dozen. Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Very nice Jon, brings back memories.....we used to go and see the empties from Braintree to Ince. Normally a 37 or occasionally a 31 or 47. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted November 16, 2013 Author Share Posted November 16, 2013 I've had another sheet of these done whilst I was ordering something else from PPD, so if you still want some please get in touch by PM. Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 I've had another sheet of these done whilst I was ordering something else from PPD, so if you still want some please get in touch by PM. Jon Yes - I do! I'm just doing a rake for DitD I'll PM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 ukfitted.jpg As a complete rakeukfrake.jpg Discussion on the old forum about these vans Jon They look great Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shed Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 great models Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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