Will 1062 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Hello everyone, Has anyone got an older Heljan Class 27 in Br Blue for sale. It dos not matter if its TOPS or pre-Tops. Thanks, Will. (or the one in the image attached) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesparkdave Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 It would be really good if Heljan were to produce another batch of Class 21st in TOPS blue livery! Should say Class 27s Should say Class 27s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class26 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Hello everyone, Has anyone got an older Heljan Class 27 in Br Blue for sale. It dos not matter if its TOPS or pre-Tops. Thanks, Will. (or the one in the image attached) Hello Will, I have a 27 for sale if you still want one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Just wondered, as I recently bought the Bachmann green class 25 25043, did a green class 27 exist with a TOPS number.?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waveydavey Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Just wondered, as I recently bought the Bachmann green class 25 25043, did a green class 27 exist with a TOPS number.?? Yes. 27001 and 27024 both ran with TOPS numbers in green in 1974. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Yes. 27001 and 27024 both ran with TOPS numbers in green in 1974. Does everyone think it is unlikely that Heljan would produce a model as such, because it has only two representatives.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted February 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2017 It's possible - Heljan have done BYSP and TTG models, which were carried by single examples in each case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class29returns Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Or a 27 with a lower white body stripe,if Heljan are at model rail Scotland,I,ll have a word. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted February 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2017 Or a 27 with a lower white body stripe,if Heljan are at model rail Scotland,I,ll have a word. I'll have one! Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forest2807 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Red bufferbeams on 27056 too, an unusual embellishment for this particular class. There are a number of photos of this loco on the net with better colour depiction but I can't reproduce them here for copyright reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Legroom Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Were all of the Class 27s fitted with brackets for the mini plows from new? I'm thinking in particular of the non-boiler batch allocated to NE England. I've seen photos of them with plows fitted in the late 1970s but I'm wondering if I could get away with fitting plows to an early 70s green version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted June 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 21, 2017 D5347-69 were fitted with brackets from new, and quite a few others were retro-fitted as the years went by. Of the non-boilered locos 27027 and 27030 were fitted, not sure about the other ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Legroom Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Thanks Stovepipe 27030/D5377 is the particular loco I'm thinking of. I wonder when it received the brackets. Photos suggest it had them by 1978 but I'm looking at the GFYE version. I think I may have to leave out the plows unless anyone knows otherwise. All the best Max Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted June 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 21, 2017 I've posted it elsewhere, but I spoke to Shawplan at the GCR show and he says he will be making the extra grilles for the push pull 27s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted June 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) Thanks Stovepipe 27030/D5377 is the particular loco I'm thinking of. I wonder when it received the brackets. Photos suggest it had them by 1978 but I'm looking at the GFYE version. I think I may have to leave out the plows unless anyone knows otherwise. All the best Max Yes I think that loco went blue in late 1972 or early 1973, and was not photographed with snowploughs until quite sometime later. I'm wondering if the later snowplough conversions didn't start happening until after the first withdrawals in 1975-77. Edited June 22, 2017 by stovepipe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Legroom Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Does anyone know of a good photo of the space under the non-boiler versions where the boiler water tank would have been located? The Heljan version has a horizontal plate that appears to be the top of the missing water tank but it would be good to see a decent photo before I take a scalpel to the loco. Any help much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted June 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27, 2017 From Brian Daniels' Flickr - https://www.flickr.com/photos/brianews/sets/72157626898833531/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Legroom Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 From Brian Daniels' Flickr - https://www.flickr.com/photos/brianews/sets/72157626898833531/ Thanks. This is just what I need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad McCann Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 There's a distinct lack of TOPS blue examples around at the moment. Just when I fancied a couple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted June 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2017 There's a distinct lack of TOPS blue examples around at the moment. Just when I fancied a couple. There seems to have always been a lack of TOPS 27s. Rare as rocking horse brown stuff. I have three pre-TOPS versions waiting to be renumbered as that was all I could get. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 As this seems to be the Class 27 thread, I thought I should post here rather than start a new topic. Heljan have produced different versions of the class with the tablet catcher recess. In green livery, sometimes the bodyside stripe continues along the recess; sometimes it does not. What happened on the prototype? I can find very few images of green examples with the recess and none (so far) showing whether or not the stripe continued. So which is correct, or is it both, which locos had which and which model is which? Thanks. Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted October 28, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) Looking at BrushVeteran's Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/59835095@N02/sets/72157627936919488/ of the ones that can be seen, the white stripe would seem to end at the edge of the catcher recess. Will look through some other links I have to see if there are any clear shots Edit: one from David Christie https://www.flickr.com/photos/david_christie/6331437186/in/album-72157625740408533/ Edited October 28, 2017 by keefer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Thanks for that. It does make sense not to have continued the stripe at the back of the recess. Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Geoff, I think they were painted - but it was soon obscured by a combination of shadow and crud accumulating in the recess. These are early 60s shots, a bit earlier than keefer's link: https://www.flickr.com/photos/24041160@N02/14005278955/in/album-72157644299525685/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/24041160@N02/14002076942/in/album-72157644299525685/ I added it to my pair, just popped the moulding off the back, added the stripe and then refitted. Easy peasy 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Now I'm confused, because the only photos I have seen which show the stripe at the back of the recess depict models, not the prototype. Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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