tractor_37260 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Hi all Are all the latest Bachmann sound locos, fitted with the V4 Loksound. I'm aware the Class 20 is so fitted. But what about the others ? Class 24/25/37/55 etc ? I've read somewhere that BR Blue 37 049 is fitted with the older V3.5 ? anyone confirm that ? TIA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Yep, mine (was 37 049) certainly is! kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 HI I have just got the NEW Bachmann blue 25 and the brake air release sound comes on well after the loco has started to move. I have spoken to Bachmann and they say it is because it was recorded on a 3.5 and is now transfered to a 4 and the starting and brake sound has gone around the wrong way and there is nothing they can do so I am having to send it to SWD and pay for it to be put right. NOT VERY GOOD! Yet my Bachy 24 is correct, I have tried changing the CV's but with no joy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 HI I have just got the NEW Bachmann blue 25 and the brake air release sound comes on well after the loco has started to move. I have spoken to Bachmann and they say it is because it was recorded on a 3.5 and is now transfered to a 4 and the starting and brake sound has gone around the wrong way and there is nothing they can do so I am having to send it to SWD and pay for it to be put right. NOT VERY GOOD! Yet my Bachy 24 is correct, I have tried changing the CV's but with no joy. That's rather dissapointing to say the least ! having to spend more money to get it sorted. As Bachmann use SWD basic sound files, but to their spec function wise etc, I'd ask SWD re the brake/starting sound problem and also Bachmann's response. Is your 24 - a Green D5100, and if so, does it have the latest V4 decoder fitted ? The decoder sheet will confirm, and will also state "use only 4ohm speakers" if V4 fitted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed-farms Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 The D27 Peak is a version 4 chip, I had mine on the track and it came up on ECoS as V4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanVSparks Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I also purchased a new BM class 25 with the V4 decoder and the brake release problem. We hope the manufacturers will give us some proper V4 sounds, we know the decoder has a lot to offer in terms of power/sound verses throttle setting. I have never liked the way the BM loco powers up and down, its just not responsive enough to loco speed. Howes have gone a long way to solve that problem with the V3.5 (not V4 yet) If you take a look on You Tube at what Legomanbiffo has done you will see the benefits of the V4. Needless to say my new 25 V4 deocder has gone for a re-blow to obtain these benefits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Depot Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 HI I have just got the NEW Bachmann blue 25 and the brake air release sound comes on well after the loco has started to move. I have spoken to Bachmann and they say it is because it was recorded on a 3.5 and is now transfered to a 4 and the starting and brake sound has gone around the wrong way and there is nothing they can do so I am having to send it to SWD and pay for it to be put right. NOT VERY GOOD! Yet my Bachy 24 is correct, I have tried changing the CV's but with no joy. So its not really fit for the purpose then. They could re-blow the chip for you. Thinking about getting 37417 with sound fitted, but hardly want to then have to get the chip reblown at extra cost... Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 Heads up L/L Blue 37 417 Highland Region comes fitted with Lok V4 decoder, but the enclosed paperwork is for V3.5 ! A brief review of this loco in "Bachmann" thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 That's rather dissapointing to say the least ! having to spend more money to get it sorted. As Bachmann use SWD basic sound files, but to their spec function wise etc, I'd ask SWD re the brake/starting sound problem and also Bachmann's response. Is your 24 - a Green D5100, and if so, does it have the latest V4 decoder fitted ? The decoder sheet will confirm, and will also state "use only 4ohm speakers" if V4 fitted. Hi I cant answer that as the paperwork doesn't say as far as I can see, all I do know is that the 24 is spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoover50008 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Just shows the arrogance of certain manufacturers, anything will do. The annoying track noise on the new 20 is an example. Spoke to Bachmann rep about it-answer nothing to do with us it's SWD fault. Well that it may be but they can refuse it if the quality not up to scratch and their not happy with it, or so you would think. E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted December 2, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 2, 2011 66546 is a v4 release, but doesn't seem any different to the v3.5 version. Those that have been playing with v4 - Biffo is one of them - it looks like a "kid in sweet shop" syndrome as they find new features and ways of using them. Bif's latest 66 for example, is far, far superior to any r-t-r version. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legomanbiffo Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 That's very kind of you to say Mick, the cheque is in the post :-) I am loving the capabilities of the new chip. We are only really scratching the surface so far, I'm sure more great features will emerge the more we experiment. The software is a bit more stable now and some new 'tooltips' have appeared to explain what some of the previously unexplained check boxes do. I am presently experimenting to find the best way of implementing all the different types of starts (failed starts, cold starts, warm starts etc) in a way that will be easy to operate and meet the needs of home users and exhibitors alike. It's going very well and you can expect to see some output soon. Bif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDBLUE17 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I have various sound decoders in my fleet and variety is good to create some interest. I have always found howes very good and easy to drive with only a few minor tweaks. With the newer v4 chips I am certainly going to try a couple of biffos new sounds as his 66 and 37/0 sound excellent and the 156 I have is also very nice. I am interested to hear bachmanns 57 though as my wcrc model needs a decoder Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 hi guys ive just purchased a Bachmann peak D27 (32-679ds) im happy with it apart from the air brake sound not being in sync and coming on after the loco has started moving, ive read the thread but still wondering is there anything i can do about it myself? ie cv's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 My pal came over last night with his new purchase, 44005 Cross Fell - Bachmann 32-625DS. He wanted me to re set his CV's 3, 4, 5 and 6. However....the instruction sheet that comes with the loco is clearly wrong with regard to the range of values that these CV's can be set to. I dont own a V4 decoder, so dont know what the range is with this new decoder. I assume that the instruction sheet is for a V3.5, and that the loco is fitted with a V4. Can anyone help me with the range values of these basic CV's or give me a link to an appropriate instruction sheet please. Thanks...............Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tender Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Hi Bob. For the Loksound V4 the range for CV3,4 is 0-255 and for CV5,6 is 0-64. The Manual can be found here Regards Ray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Hi Bob. For the Loksound V4 the range for CV3,4 is 0-255 and for CV5,6 is 0-64. The Manual can be found here Regards Ray. Hi Ray, Your a star.......no wonder I was tying myself in knots last night..???? Hows your soldering going? Many thanks...........Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tender Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Hows your soldering going? Many thanks...........Bob. Hi Bob. Have a look at my thread http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/49161-first-attempt-at-handbuilt-track-a-complete-novice%E2%80%99s-experience/ (there's a direct link in my signature). Not done much over the Christmas hols, too many family visits, but did manage to knock up a few baseboards so look out for a new thread starting soon. Regards Ray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrook64 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 HI I have just got the NEW Bachmann blue 25 and the brake air release sound comes on well after the loco has started to move. I have spoken to Bachmann and they say it is because it was recorded on a 3.5 and is now transfered to a 4 and the starting and brake sound has gone around the wrong way and there is nothing they can do so I am having to send it to SWD and pay for it to be put right. NOT VERY GOOD! Yet my Bachy 24 is correct, I have tried changing the CV's but with no joy. Hi Andrew Do You still have your Bachmann class 24 sound instruction sheet I have miss laid mine and need to know what function number is linked to what sound, if you still have it could you help me out and scan it and email it to me no help from Bachmann's site as far as the sound sheets are concern. Here is hoping someone can help. Best Regards Michael Crook email : mcrook51@hotmail.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Hi Andrew Do You still have your Bachmann class 24 sound instruction sheet I have miss laid mine and need to know what function number is linked to what sound, if you still have it could you help me out and scan it and email it to me no help from Bachmann's site as far as the sound sheets are concern. Here is hoping someone can help. Best Regards Michael Crook email : mcrook51@hotmail.com This thread might help? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/13833-class-24-sound-info-sheet/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Hi Andrew Do You still have your Bachmann class 24 sound instruction sheet I have miss laid mine and need to know what function number is linked to what sound, if you still have it could you help me out and scan it and email it to me no help from Bachmann's site as far as the sound sheets are concern. Here is hoping someone can help. Best Regards Michael Crook email : mcrook51@hotmail.com Hi Michael I have just see your post, unfortunately all my paperwork is packed ready for a House move two weeks ago that fell through, if I find it I will send it over. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pufferman Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 How can you find out what Version of chip you have in a 20? I have two that were Green ones, and want to get them re blown Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 How can you find out what Version of chip you have in a 20? I have two that were Green ones, and want to get them re blown Take the body off and remove the two small screws that hold the speaker assembly, on the rear of the speaker it should either have 100ohm or 4ohm marked on it 100ohm = V3.5 4ohm = V4 HTH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pufferman Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 That easy cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipparooba Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 or if you go cv 63 and change it to say 40 the volume will turn down and if you put cv 63 again and set it to 160 and the volume dont change it is a v3.5 as they dont go higher than 98 i think but the v4's go to over 189 cheer ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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