RTJ Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Hi everyone, I promised people some time ago that I would post progress pictures. Apologies for its late posting. It's far from finished - as you'll see- but I feel as if I am getting there at long last. It's DCC wired and this and all the points are electrically operated and work. I've just flocked it but it needs to be re-ballasted and generally tidied up. The fencing wire has still to be completed but I wonder if it's worth it. The other section - to complete the oval- cannot be seen. it's a lift-out, stand-alone, board that can easily be carried into the house for the cold winter months. It has a separate DCC loom/bus. It will soon have sidings etc fitted. I plan this so that it MAY be modelled from a different era and/or Operating Company (yes, even the GWR). The pictures have not been enhanced in any way. I'll look into that later. Nowhere near Chris Nevard's extra-ordinary standard of course - but something to aim for. IF it ever gets good enough for publication in a modelling magazine I shall look into it further. A long way to go yet! Please see: http://rtjhomepages.users.btopenworld.com/wellow.html Thanks, Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcmacchipilot Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Thats coming along really nicely. I would love an 08 gronk too eventually . You have captured the feel from the photos very well as well as the open / slightly undulating feel of the country side. Is that an 8F passing through the station? With Regards, Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTJ Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 Hi Owen, thanks. No it's a Hornby Black 5. BW Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Looks good, now if it was portable it could come to our show in Blandford to commemorate the 150th anniversary of the completion of the original S&DJR main line in 2013. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium tingleytim Posted November 1, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 1, 2011 Have you any dates in mind yet for that Blandford show or is it far too early? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Have you any dates in mind yet for that Blandford show or is it far too early? At the moment the 5th & 6th of October 2013 seems the most likely, but has to be confirmed, hopefully in the next week or so, I will let everyone know after we've discussed it with the Blandford school at the end of the week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcmacchipilot Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 RTJ, what do you plan to use for fencing wiring? I have been doing a bit of experimenting/ think tanking in this area. As far as I see it there are three camps that you can sit in, 1. Dont model it at all- not a big factor if you plan to view it from quite a distance away. However I feel that once you get close / do some "layout people perspective" photography, fence posts with nothing on them feel a little bare. And on the flip side of the coin its nice knowing the wires are there. 2. Model the fence wires with something that is a bit course / tough or cheap. This is the case that I currently am following ( mainly because im a little cheap / also as an experiment ) In my case I am using gray cotton, although the high E on a guitar string could also be used ( with the added advantage of being able to blacken it with cars blackening fluid, gun black etc, which would make it look finer). I find at three feet the string is just visible giving the impression of a fence. ( following the old addage that " if you cant see it a three feet its not worth modeling" ( although I believe that quote was for moving models )) I have attached an experimental photo of the fence that was taken on the phone ( appolagies for quality) The fuzziness can be explained bt the time of the year ( a good excuse ) as from my experience with sheep come spring they molt part of their coat. Some of them achieve this by rubbing on fences. ( im not sure if this happens in the UK, however im assuming that temperature varitions cant be too different and therefore its a possiblity) 3. Model the fences with fine scale ideals. In this case it would require wire thats around . 0.01 - 0.02 mm thick. Seriously good looking for close up photography ( In a good series of depth of field shots, the fence certainly would add to the feel of the scene ) However at that thickness I would argue that its almost impossible to see it at three feet again. Also the wire would be extremly fragile so a system of posts with holes in them and weight tensions wires would be required. ( Richard Johnson suggests this method some where else either on RMweb or Modelrailforum.) Possible draw backs would include the wire colour. ( Richard suggests taking the wire off of a motor armature, which means it would be copper and thus either the wrong color raw or may not oxidise black with blueing agent ( I think an experiment is in order back home to test this ) At the end of the day however I believe that it is more rewarding to model the wires than to not have them. However it really falls down to each persons individual preferences. With Kind Regards Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTJ Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share Posted November 9, 2011 Hi, thanks for that. I must admit I cheated. The fence posts were Ratio/Peco and came with some fine (to my eyes) 'fishing' twine' . Later posts were shaped matchsticks!. I've only done a short stretch with the twine. It's fiddly and the wire is so fine I can hardly see it hence my wondering if it was worth it. No doubt the wire would be easier to see if it was painted. Although on the original there were 5 horizontal strands between the posts, I decided that 3 would suffice on the model. End posts have 3 minute holes drilled and, if I go ahead, I'll use these and then superglue the 'wire' to the grooves set into the other posts. I'm still fiddling with ballast and foliage at present so envisage that the fencing, if done at all, will wait until the end. Thanks, Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailWest Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Looking more closely at your second photo down on the right-hand side, I would point out that the level-crossing gate on the Up side of the line opened towards the line, whereas the gate on the Down side opened away from the line. Just to make sure, I walked past there today to check Is it just an illusion from the photography, or is your "six foot" rather on the broad side? I'm puzzled also by what you mean when you say that the points were "re-aligned" when the Fuller's Earth siding was removed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTJ Posted November 15, 2011 Author Share Posted November 15, 2011 Hi, 1. You are correct of course about the gates. I have no real excuse (I lived in Wellow for 10 years) save that the UP gate is too large for the opening!. This part of the layout had to be really truncated. 2.The 'six-foot' does appear a little large I grant, but it is governed, on the model, by the set distance of the 2 Peco crossover points. 3. 'Re-positioned' may have been a better term. It appeared to me, looking at the signal diagram pics that when the point and siding were removed, the 2 crossover points were moved near to the station (so that both points were within the confines of the platforms). I'll have a bother look at that pesky gate later. Thanks, Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailWest Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 >>>I have no real excuse..... save that the UP gate is too large for the opening! As the gate fits across the face of the posts, rather than between them, I would have though that any surplus length would not have made any difference. >>>'Re-positioned' may have been a better term. It appeared to me, looking at the signal diagram pics that when the point and siding were removed, the 2 crossover points were moved near to the station (so that both points were within the confines of the platforms). I have often wondered about that, a problem not helped by never finding a map (as opposed to a diagram) showing the siding in situ. The problem with signal diagrams is that they are just that - diagrammatic, not drawn by someone making reference to a scale plan. After studying all the suitable available pix, I have come to the conclusion that essentially the crossover was not moved, although clearly the point in the Up line would have been rebuilt after the slip portion was removed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTJ Posted November 15, 2011 Author Share Posted November 15, 2011 1. I will need to reposition the kissing gate to do this. Yes, I know it is not the right kind (the real one is half-moon shaped). It's yet another example of the inevitable consequences of compromises. 2. I agree with the potential inaccuracy of signal diagrams of course. But there are 'hints' that the original position of the cross-over points MAY have been different when the Fullers' Earth Siding was in place. The take-off locus for this point was on the UP side just before the UP crossover point. If you look at the colour pic of the 7F there does not seem to be enough room for another line between the loco and Brian and Mary's 'barn'/ex-warehouse wall. This would seem to indicate that the point was located further towards the camera and thus the crossover points would have also been further towards the camera as well. However, I agree it's conjecture. It won't make any difference to my layout anyway as I am modelling the later period and the crossover points are within the platform confines. Thanks, Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDiesel Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I've just discovered & skimmed through this thread. These are great pics and your layout looks excellent. I've been modelling Wellow in 00 for the past few years. I had posted some pics of it on here but the only one that I've been able to find is when I tried to re-create a photo of the last day trains ran on the line -- http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/2284-layout-photo-of-wellow-station-sd/page__hl__wellow__fromsearch__1 I'll try to post more pix later. Would really enjoy comparing notes. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTJ Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 Thanks GreenDiesel; yes, please keep in touch. I've been busy with the 'other side' of the layout - the fiddle yard-######-sidings. Track and point work almost done but wiring not. I've been side-tracked by a GWR auto coach a 14xx and a scratch-built model of Monkton Combe (AKA Titfield) station building that I've just finished. MK station wasn't too far from Wellow - but on the ex-GWR Camerton branch. BW Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDiesel Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Thanks GreenDiesel; yes, please keep in touch. I've been busy with the 'other side' of the layout - the fiddle yard-######-sidings. Track and point work almost done but wiring not. I've been side-tracked by a GWR auto coach a 14xx and a scratch-built model of Monkton Combe (AKA Titfield) station building that I've just finished. MK station wasn't too far from Wellow - but on the ex-GWR Camerton branch. BW Richard Thanks, Richard. I'll try to post some newer pics soon. My layout is very small, only about 3.5' wide by 5.5' long, so I'm only trying to model the Wellow Station area on the one side of the layout. The rest of the layout is fictional. Also, my layout ends abruptly at the railway tracks (which you might be able to see or tell from my photo on that link) -- I might make the layout wider some day so that I can show both railway platforms. Your other projects sound interesting, especially the "Titfield" Station building`. Cheers, Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDiesel Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Just curious if you've made any recent progress on this layout. I've added a few inches to the front area of my layout which means that I can show more of the station area. I still have to scale or reduce the area significantly. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTJ Posted June 16, 2012 Author Share Posted June 16, 2012 Hi Rob, Yes and no... ...I have done no more work on Wellow as such but on the return loop I planned a fiddle yard of sorts. this is half- built. Then I decided I needed another drop-in module which I could take indoors - so I built a much simpler version and based it on Monkton Combe ( aka Titfield). This was almost complete when I did a very silly thing ... I went to a local mrs and espied some 'O' gauge layouts and was completely enthralled. So I' m afraid I've been building a 4F from a kit and modifying a Pannier Tank. O gauge takes up much more room so the only thing I can build in the space is another Monkton Combe, but this time as If the SDJR had joined with it. ( There was a plan mooted, in real- life, to join the SDJR to the GWR Cam valley from nr Midford. This would have meant the closure of the two tunnels). However, I have not given up on Wellow, it is just on the back-burner. Best wishes, Richard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDiesel Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Hi Rob, Yes and no... ...I have done no more work on Wellow as such but on the return loop I planned a fiddle yard of sorts. this is half- built. Then I decided I needed another drop-in module which I could take indoors - so I built a much simpler version and based it on Monkton Combe ( aka Titfield). This was almost complete when I did a very silly thing ... I went to a local mrs and espied some 'O' gauge layouts and was completely enthralled. So I' m afraid I've been building a 4F from a kit and modifying a Pannier Tank. O gauge takes up much more room so the only thing I can build in the space is another Monkton Combe, but this time as If the SDJR had joined with it. ( There was a plan mooted, in real- life, to join the SDJR to the GWR Cam valley from nr Midford. This would have meant the closure of the two tunnels). However, I have not given up on Wellow, it is just on the back-burner. Best wishes, Richard. Thanks, Richard. Sounds like your having fun! So you are building O scale 4F and modifying an O-scale Pannier Tank? I've been tempted to try other scales. TT really intrigues me -- I love the scale & size -- but I can't get my mind around starting off in a new scale, not to mention it being a minority scale where I'd have to scratch-build many things. I also went through a brief phase where I was interested in N -- mainly because we're crammed for space in our small Toronto house. This is why I stick to small layouts. My OO Wellow layout is just slightly smaller than 4x6 ft and I also have a smaller OO switching layout that I've been working on. It's loosely based on S&D or GWR, and has just recently grown from 1x4 ft to about 1x6! Cheers, Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbancohort Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 What a brilliant layout! i was born and bred in Barf and in the 80's used to cycle around the areas south of the City...You have really caught the atmosphere of the area with this, although I never knew the railway when it ran (vaguely remember it in Oldfield Park but never travelled on it and was too young anyway). Wellow used to have a great pub in it! Graham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailWest Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 >>>Wellow used to have a great pub in it.... The pub is still there! Whether it should be considered still 'great' or not depends on your criteria :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTJ Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share Posted April 9, 2018 I'm afraid I need to sell my "OO' gauge Wellow layout. Pics and details here: http://rtjstevens.co.uk/wellow.html DCC. Locos not included nor the power supplies. Sensible offers only please. Pick-up from Sheffield. (!) Please pm me for further details (rtjstevens (at) me dot com) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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