HealeyMills Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 (edited) Having checked the GF website I notice there are no dates for the availability of the class 20 - merely a 'squiggle' indicating that they are on order. When the announcement was made for the retooled version was there a hint of a release date? Has anyone seen any information on the disc headcode version, i.e. will the discs be etch? Cheers Lee Edited December 10, 2012 by HealeyMills Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 The announcement was part of the next 18 months products Bachmann do each year so hopefully by Sept 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted November 4, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 4, 2011 The disks on the class 24 aren't etches so I'd be suprised if the ones on the class 20 are (but would love to be proved wrong). There's always the TPM ones of course. Happy modelling. Steven B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HealeyMills Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 It must be getting close to release date now: http://www.Bachmann.co.uk/details.php?id=7&vis=2 Cheers Lee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROADTRAIN1979 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Hi, hopefully these will be released soon, its painful seeing but not having ...especially as they are dcc ready and with lights drool...drool.. Mark Edited January 16, 2012 by BROADTRAIN1979 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted January 16, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Ooo, that looks rather tasty! And since two of these have visted the Mid Hants, looks like it's on the list! As for release date, the 5MT first broke cover at the Bachmann open day in July last year, and it's now 6 months later and still no sign of even painted samples, so I wouldn't worry about seeing the 20 in the shops for another 6 - 7 months yet! Tom. Edited January 16, 2012 by TomE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Seperate cab moulding - does that mean token catcher versions (with/without the equipment) as the side windows differed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee m22 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 The thing with 20's is you've always gotta have two LOL I can't wait for them to be released! Really miss having a pair of 20's since I moved to N gauge. Regards Lee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HealeyMills Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 Just discussed on one of the 'yahoo' forums are a couple of errors with the new loco: 1. The side grille/ doors. It seems that the first panel (nearest the nose) should be a grille similar to those adjacent the cab. Compare for yourself: http://www.Bachmann.co.uk/details.php?id=7&vis=2 and this... http://www.martinbray-ukloco.com/images/class20/20054-buxtond-260688.jpg 2. The buffers 'should' be of the round type not oval. I guess there will always be differences within the fleet but the vent/ door panel difference doesn't sound as though it is unique to one loco. Not normally into picking fault with locos but I just hope someone at Bachmann reads this and picks up on it before the loco goes to production... or is it too late already??? Cheers Lee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Country Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I think you're right on the nose grille Lee, but the original batch of pilot scheme 20s was delivered with oval buffers, like this: http://www.davidheyscollection.com/USERIMAGES/isc-class-twenties-copy.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HealeyMills Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 Ah, perhaps the model is aimed at reproducing the green version too then... hence the oval buffers. Not too drastic as those can be changed I guess. Ho hum Cheers Lee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted January 17, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 17, 2012 The angle of the photo makes it quite hard to judge the front grill. However something that doesn't look right to me are the steps on the frames. These appear to be offset when compared to each other instead of being in line. The top step also appears to be bigger than the bottom one. Hopefully this is again just an illusion caused by the angle of the photo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
£1.38 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 There is defintely some king of grille impression on that first panel. It my well be the lighting that disguises it as Kris says. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted January 17, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 17, 2012 The deeper sections at both ends of the footplate valance have been shortened, which is probably why the lower steps don't align quite right (the front one in particular seems to have been pushed forward). I'd guess this is with the aim of providing sufficient clearance between the valance and the sandboxes, but it's possible they've overdone it somewhat. As the model is only an engineering sample these dimensions may not be set in stone yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy L S Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Ah, perhaps the model is aimed at reproducing the green version too then... hence the oval buffers. Not too drastic as those can be changed I guess. Ho hum Cheers Lee Hi Lee The blurb underneath the pic on the Bachmann Website does say that this represents the BR green variant. Sounds like the other two initial releases will represent earlier BR models too but in blue.. Regards Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROADTRAIN1979 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 The more i look at her the more i love! Hmm separate cab? good for dcc sound maybe? Mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PaulCheffus Posted January 17, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 17, 2012 Not normally into picking fault with locos but I just hope someone at Bachmann reads this and picks up on it before the loco goes to production... or is it too late already??? Cheers Lee Hi Instead of hoping why not contact Bachmann and let them know of the issues, then they might get corrected. Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bending01 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Does the OO version have the correct grill arrangement? If so, and assuming the same CAD drawings are used as a starting point for the N version, then I'd hope that no new errors were "drawn" in. No-one would be that daft......would they? Regards Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HealeyMills Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 Does the OO version have the correct grill arrangement? The answer is yes - it does have the correct grill arrangement... so lets hope no one is that daft And I have just noticed that the OO BR Blue version has round buffers.... panic over! (If only I'd thought to look at the OO version first) Cheers Lee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Whilst it looks like there is some material missing to allow bogie clearance, don't forget when viewed head on, the bufferbeam is angled in towards the bottom, as is the part of the solebar where the lower step is mounted. This means when view 3/4 angle, the lower step looks further forward than the upper one, as per this photo jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROADTRAIN1979 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Whilst it looks like there is some material missing to allow bogie clearance, don't forget when viewed head on, the bufferbeam is angled in towards the bottom, as is the part of the solebar where the lower step is mounted. This means when view 3/4 angle, the lower step looks further forward than the upper one, as per this photo jo Anyone got a shrinking gun?? this will do nicely! Mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreamnos Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 The thing with 20's is you've always gotta have two LOL Regards Lee I suspect Bachmann know this... That, along with the longevity of the class, the small variations to the basic design and the variety of liveries carried over the years is going to make this model a cash cow for Bachmann - assuming it isn't manufactured to 1:160! I am looking forward to seeing this model come out. Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee m22 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I suspect Bachmann know this... That, along with the longevity of the class, the small variations to the basic design and the variety of liveries carried over the years is going to make this model a cash cow for Bachmann - assuming it isn't manufactured to 1:160! I am looking forward to seeing this model come out. Matt I'm sure they do! LoL, but fair play...I'll certainly have a pair later on. Regards Lee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROADTRAIN1979 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Im sure these will be made to the right scale! i will certainlly be obtaining a BR BLUE 20 when released anyway! . MARK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDEEDIESEL Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Just seen the painted sample in this months Rail Express.........................One word .........Fantastic!!!!!!!! Relegates the 27 into 2nd place for my most wanted model!!! Looks a quality product! Well done Farish! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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