Brisbane King Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Ok, I know this probably seems like a really daft question, but whats generally inside of the short hood of a loco that has had its high short hood chopped? ? I know that locos often had toilets, steam generators or storage or things like that in their high short hoods, (that was obviously removed) and whats in the low short hood now? ? If nothing is in it, why don't they just remove the entire short hood? ? Its just something thats only occured to me now to ask. ? ? ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted December 4, 2009 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 4, 2009 Ok, I know this probably seems like a really daft question, but whats generally inside of the short hood of a loco that has had its high short hood chopped? ? I know that locos often had toilets, steam generators or storage or things like that in their high short hoods, (that was obviously removed) and whats in the low short hood now? ? If nothing is in it, why don't they just remove the entire short hood? ? Its just something thats only occured to me now to ask. ? ? ? I think collision protection is a key issue for countries where cornfield meets and crossing accidents are sadly far from unknown. I think you will find there are collision posts in the hood. Some railroads - N&W and Southern come to mind - bought all their early hood units to run long hood first, and specified high short hoods even when the trend was towards the better-visibility low hood. That trade-off of visibility against safety sounds quite attractive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 As you say why not remove them completly just like ADM did with their GP at Clinton, Iowa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium NGT6 1315 Posted December 4, 2009 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 4, 2009 As you say why not remove them completly just like ADM did with their GP at Clinton, Iowa. That does look awful, if you ask me . But it might be a good idea for creating something a little out of the ordinary on a U.S. layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMartin Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 The short answer is that the toilet is still in the short hood. ADM does not need a toilet as it is strictly for switching the plant and thus desided to go with better visability. Colin Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1905 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 What's in a low short hood? All the same stuff in a high short hood except for a steam generator. A partial list of things that may be in a low short hood: sand box collision posts radios cab signal equipment fire extinguisher distributed power controls remote control systems speed recoder equipment toilet first aid box tools track image recorder In many modern engines there is a concern that all the electronics required to support the newer locomotive monitoring and signal systems will not fit into the short hood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted December 8, 2009 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 8, 2009 And ofcourse highnosed loco's look so much better :icon_cool: :icon_cool: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=203330&nseq=4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigZ Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Then there's this - an RS-3 rebuilt with a 12 cylinder EMD 567 taken from a retired E unit: http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/pc/pc9950bgs.jpg I guess they found it a bit much, so the next one got half chopped: http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/pc/pc9951ags.jpg These were the only two of a total of 35 RS-3M's that got the noses modified in any way. The other 33 looked pretty much like 9963 here: http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/pc/pc9963adc.jpg Collectively these became known as DeWitt Geeps - the rebuild/repower work being done at Penn Central's ex New York Central DeWitt shops in Syracuse, NY. And for all the effort, the rebuilds lasted about 7 years longer than the unrebuilt RS-3s...though some survive today on shortlines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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