Crianlarich

[grow45]

As a long time lurker (and very occasional poster) I thought it was about time I contributed something again. So for the benefit of anybody looking at modelling Crianlarich in the late 70's/early 80's here are a few photos I took when I was thinking about doing a model of it. Can't give an exact date but definitely between 1978 and 1982.

 

 

Hope they are of interest/use

 

Andrew Wood

Edited December 12, 2011 by grow45

[gridwatcher]

Lovely evocative shots Andrew. I would say you were spot on with date as wooden wagons were getting scarce by then. People always make me smile the most. Have you seen Andrew Sparks books from North West England? They have loads of atmosphere, people, paraphenalia. Worth a look!

[Happy Hippo]

And some more up to date photos taken April 2011.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Quite a bit of rationalization since the first set of photos, but it is still recognisable as the same place. The lower station has long gone: I did go down, but the only evidence is a bit of overgrown trackbed with weedy ballast and a stone bridge over a brook (burn in Scotland?).

 

 

Regards

 

Richard

[emac]

Nice Photos lads some of my own

 

a basic plan showing the water supply and track layout

 

 

A couple of shots taken in 1982 (scanned from prints) the remains of the main water tank can be seen on the hill in the first shot

 

 

 

shots of the yard taken in february 2010

 

 

 

Another view taken in 1982

 

 

 

Notice how the old Parrifin store has been recycled to the garden of station masters house when the platform was enlarged

 

[64B]

Here is one taken from the cab of 55021 passing through Crainlarich on the 23rd August 1982 returning to Edinburgh from Oban on the West Highland tour.

Edited December 14, 2011 by 64B

[AngusDe]

I've always loved Crainlarich, as a boy it was a stop on our annual trip to Mallaig and the ferry to Stornoway. My Saturday job in a Glasgow model shop had the Crainlarich coal merchant who occupied much of the upper station yard was a regular weekly visitor and in my college days my best friend's parents had a B&B there so many drunken weekends of hillwalking and train watching ensued. In those days Crainlarich Lower, the C&O station, was still in use as the timber loading point which made it even more interesting.

 

I've often thought that the C&O end of the spur from Crainlarich Upper was missed as a interesting railway site, extensive enough to warrant 2 signal boxes, giving the village of Crainlarich 4 in total!, yet there was virtually no traffic between the two until the C&O was truncated.

 

Angus

 

PS finally, my 100th post......

Edited December 20, 2011 by AngusDe

[StaffsOatcake]

Some images of Crianlarich are here

http://www.flickr.com/photos/staffsoatcake/6195727407/in/set-72157627627700181

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/staffsoatcake/6196240260/in/set-72157627627700181/

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/staffsoatcake/6196243146/in/set-72157627627700181/

[John M Upton]

Does anyone have any better shots of the ex Mk1 RMB, the former 1817 and later DB977078 which resided at Crianlarich for many years please?

 

I have found this one https://www.flickr.com/photos/35138806@N08/3515115343 but would like to find a better shot of the rather home made looking number panel at the left hand end.  Also did this coach ever actually leave the yard at any time or was it a fairly permanent resident until it was binned?

[Corrour]

Very nice photos Grow45! A signalling diagram in return.

 

kind regards,

 

Robert

WHL-Crianlarich Upper M1-1970's-rot.pdf

[keefer]

Does anyone have any better shots of the ex Mk1 RMB, the former 1817 and later DB977078 which resided at Crianlarich for many years please?

 

I have found this one https://www.flickr.com/photos/35138806@N08/3515115343 but would like to find a better shot of the rather home made looking number panel at the left hand end.  Also did this coach ever actually leave the yard at any time or was it a fairly permanent resident until it was binned?

 

had a look on departmental.com, but they only have the same pic

 

Ernie Brack has this on his Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/5742925878/in/album-72157626645865977/

Shows the other side of the RMB, but the panel's not any more readable - he's on RMWeb, maybe he would be able to check?

Also shows the LMS-design 12-wheel sleeper used for accomodation

[ardbealach]

Found this pre Second World War photograph of Crianlarich with the 'Northern Belle' and K4 Mogul 3446 'Macleod of Macleod' BR 61998.  Sorry no date with the picture.   The train is heading north.   Note the three water towers to accommodate the double headed steam trains for simultaneous water filling - all fed from a large reservoir tank on the same side of the station as the brick built shed.

[Irishswissernie]

Does anyone have any better shots of the ex Mk1 RMB, the former 1817 and later DB977078 which resided at Crianlarich for many years please?

 

I have found this one https://www.flickr.com/photos/35138806@N08/3515115343 but would like to find a better shot of the rather home made looking number panel at the left hand end.  Also did this coach ever actually leave the yard at any time or was it a fairly permanent resident until it was binned?

Enlargment from scan attached, finding the negative could be tricky!

 

Ernie

[Corrour]

I'm wondering if there's a better pic in series on Scottish On-Track Plant Roger Butcher did in 'Rail' some years back. Will check.

 

AngusDe, If you'd like signalling diagrams for the Caley Crianlarich East & West boxes, drop me PE.

 

regards,

 

Robert

[John M Upton]

Enlargment from scan attached, finding the negative could be tricky!

 

Ernie

Lovely, thanks for that.  Should be able to do the lettering from that assuming that it is the same the other side.  Not sure what the two letters to the right of the CCE bit is though.

[young37215]

I am seeking assistance with the two carriages that rusted away at Crianlarich during the early 1980's which have been previously discussed on this thread. 

 

What was the purpose of the coaches being left at Crianlarich?, I am guessing as a mess car and accommodation for Pway gangs?

The RMB and sleeper appear to be painted in a green colour. What colour is this? do any of the usual manufacturers produce this?

How did the coaches leave Crianlarich or were they cut up on site?

 

As ever any assistance gratefully received

 

thanks Rob

[John M Upton]

I believe the colour used on these to be Engineers Olive (that is what I have used on a Farish RMB anyway) Railmatch No. 234 although other paint ranges are available.

 

As for disposal, departmentals.com list 977078, the ex RMB as being scrapped at Mayer Newman of Snailwell in April 87.  Whether the coach was hauled there or taken away by road is unclear however.

Edited August 21, 2017 by John M Upton

[young37215]

I am attempting to replicate the sleeper and RMB to sit on my WHL layout. My starting point, one old Hornby Mk1 sleeping car which has sat idle in my 'old bits' box for years and a cheap Ebay purchase, an RMB. 

 

 

Stripped down for weathering and repainting

 

 

I am waiting on the olive green paint to re-spray the body sides, however framework and roof suitably weathered.

 

 

Hopefully all that is now required is the engineers olive green paint so that I can re-spray the bodysides. Once I have added this, a little more weathering and varnish should give me the two coaches.   

 

 

[John M Upton]

Ah, the good old Triang Hornby CKD Mk1's!!  If you can track some down, they would benefit from the flush glazing units that Hornby introduced for the very same models when they were still making them in the 1990's which should be a push fit right into the old Triang sides and better than the old strips of plastic.

[ardbealach]

Photos attached were taken back in the mid 1970's for a model I never progressed.  Found 'em with a stack of other negatives.  Hope they give the answers on a bit more about Crianlarich Station and its earlier station buildings and the station environs.  (AM)   

[ian@stenochs]

Great view of the Mini's and 1100!

 

Ian.

[JohnH]

Brilliant photos - thanks so much for sharing them.

 

I especially like the freight stock on view. I presume the OAA's were involved in the Corpach paper traffic, but why are they stabled in the goods sidings?

[John M Upton]

Nice photos.  What is that UUV TOPS coded wagon?

[young37215]

For many years

 

Brilliant photos - thanks so much for sharing them.

 

I especially like the freight stock on view. I presume the OAA's were involved in the Corpach paper traffic, but why are they stabled in the goods sidings?

It was rare for crews to traverse the whole WHL, typically they would swap trains at one of the mid crossing points like Crianlarich. If there was no off setting freight then for many years there was a practice of stabling freight and even the locomotive at Crianlarich  for a day or so pending a crew to take it forward. The original crew would ride the cushions back to wherever they had come from.

[John M Upton]

Returning to those engineers coaches for a moment, this is my N scale RMB still missing its numbers etc at the moment on my still early days under construction Scottish BLT layout:

[Ramblin Rich]

Nice photos. What is that UUV TOPS coded wagon?

They were converted from Plate wagons to carry timber; a forerunner of the air braked OTAs but obviously the UUVs were vac brakes. I seem to remember there were drawings and an article by Paul Bartlett and/or Trevor Mann in one of the Model Railway Constructor annuals mid 1980s.