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#26 trisonic

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 08:56

Ray, You're referring to the U -shaped version right?

What's important about Jack's plans is that they are inspiring! In the real sense of the word, they make you think.

Thanks, Jack.

Best, Pete.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 09:00

:blush: :blush: :blush: !

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 12:01

Steady!

I'm buttering you up for some help!

Best, Pete.

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 02:54

I would lose the loco shed and make it a team track. ...


Definitely; a team track is much more common. As Dave alluded to, switchers serving urbran areas are typically serviced at a larger facility. Even then, the power may change from day to day, with the switching crew picking up their locomotive at the nearest terminal office, the picking up their train off a track at a nearby classification yard, then going on to their assigned switching district.

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 11:40

Steady!

I'm buttering you up for some help!

Best, Pete.


I had an invisible ink post - I replied " What is it you need me to do??"

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 11:48

Nothing yet, Jack. Just want you to look over something when ready, if OK with you?

Best, Pete.

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:01

Of course - no problem!

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 14:34

Strange that I recently posted a trackplan for the Claremont and Concord - and then, this morning this turns up on TrainOrders.com.The gentleman who took the photo, and then scanned and posted it, has very kindly given me permission to post it on here - the copyright remains with him. I think it is a cracking photo

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 14:39

Yes, lovely!

What the heck is that running up the hill above the retaining wall on the right?

Best, Pete.

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 14:43

It is suggested on TrainOrders.com that it may be a gantlet track - - possibly to allow bi-directional running without needing turnouts - I have a very vague memory, from a long time ago post on the web, that there was a tram-type passenger service that ran along a roadside on a raised up trackage, possibly to reduce the gradient needed?.

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 14:49

That Claremont and Concord photo is fantastic. I'm very pleased to see the trackwork on that gantlet track. Unfortunately it is my mainline track that ends up looking like that!

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 15:01

That thread has thrown up another link to photographs of the C&C -
http://www.fototime....723C998B377EFB8
See photo 54 and compare to the one I posted earlier - with the switch being thrown
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 15:34

Here's a link to their current websit - unlike the Morristown & Erie but like SMS they seem friendly......note that it list their customers and products.

http://www.theccrr.com/home.htm

I wonder why their HO is in Philadelphia?

Best, Pete.

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 15:47

love that website jack

my brains doing overtime now (doesn't take much),thanks very much!

got a spare 44t and #7 of helm,where's my pen and paper
love the undulating track might be a bit of a problem keeping cars in there spurs

but that my be a challenge, just like life!

Ray
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 16:05

I think the easiest is probably an up-rising lever between the tracks to catch the axle.
like this - if painted a ballast colour it will barely be visible. Left hand side is "downhill in each picture - any vehicle moving uphill will simply push the brake over if it is "up" - just move the lever into the "downhill "position and the wire will catch the axle and be held by the weight of the vehicle - move it uphill and lower the brake when you need to go downhill - the round thing on the lever is a bit of lead shot to hold the lever over-centre in the non-brake position by gravity

Brake OFF

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Brake ON

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The "Brake is bent paperclip in a bit of tube - it is easier to show than to try to explain

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 18:36

#12 shows the gradients those 44 tonners had to contend with

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 18:45

You'll find videos of the C&C on Youtube

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 03:30

Just when I thought I finally had New England short lines and 44-tonners outta my system. ... :locomotive:

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 03:36

And here's another C&C track plan by someone from the Model Railroader forum: http://img402.images...tconcordnr6.gif
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Posted 12 January 2012 - 08:50

That is nice - and capable of being broken down into individual layouts - very neat!

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 09:40

And here's another C&C track plan by someone from the Model Railroader forum: http://img402.images...tconcordnr6.gif


Thank you for posting...

That is excellent.....and very good timing ....as I have just started re-planning a large section of my layout and bits of that plan will do very nicely ... B)

Regards Trevor.... :sungum:

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 14:59

When I looked back at this post yesterday, looking for the address for Pete, I scanned through and picked up the photos of the Claremont & Concord. Brain went "tick" and I remembered a couple of trackplans from Model Trains May 1980, and Scale Model Trains May 1986, featuring a tiny shortline in Carolina - the Edgemoor and Manetta RR. The first is HO and the second in N scale - 44-tonner and 70-tonner locos are available in both scales from Bachmann, and although the E&M didn't use them, had it remained in existance it might well have done - but it occured to me that they would also make an excellent trackplan basis for a layout for the C&C, which certainly did have GE44-tonners locos. The earlier photo with the track on the raised wall would fit very nicely with the curve on the N version, and would work with the curve on the HO version too. The N version would upscale to HO in about 8'x4' - Model Railroaders favorite "beginners" size. The runround loops in the HO scale version should hold a minimum of 2, but better yet 3, standard 40' boxcars in each leg E&M1.jpg E&M2.jpg If used as originally intended with Lando as the blanket mill, making the world famous Cannon blankets, both legs were used for loading blankets into boxcars - you could spend a long time switching a train that arrives with three new cars when both legs are full! The E&M didn't use a caboose - but you could! Life not complicated enough? Then don't forget a weekly hopper of coal for the power plant, and another for the coal store at the far end of the loop! Of course if you are a real masochist you could re-instate the passenger/mail service with a drovers caboose. Happy days! Both trackplans are used with permission of Chris Ellis

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 18:05

There's a lot of neat pictures of Claremont on the HABS web site, and a number of maps. I think they'd be very helpful for researching/layout design purposes.

Here's one small section on the bridge itself:

http://www.loc.gov/p...gallery&sg=true

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 22:15

When I looked back at this post yesterday, looking for the address for Pete, I scanned through and picked up the photos of the Claremont & Concord. Brain went "tick" and I remembered a couple of trackplans from Model Trains May 1980, and Scale Model Trains May 1986, featuring a tiny shortline in Carolina - the Edgemoor and Manetta RR.

The first plan there (May 1980) is one of my all-time favourites, that's always been at the back of my mind as a "One day I must build..." sort of layout.... I think it's a little bit optimistic as drawn for the sort of capacities talked about though, but it does appeal as a compact layout....

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 08:44

One of my all time favourites too. I think it lends itself to being adapted well. Right now I'd cut out the short T section on the left and stretch the whole thing out a bit - having typed that I'm already having second thoughts!!!! Turning it into an L shape would really mean revamping and getting rid of the scenic break in the north/south section....

Best, Pete.