trisonic Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Ray, You're referring to the U -shaped version right? What's important about Jack's plans is that they are inspiring! In the real sense of the word, they make you think. Thanks, Jack. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 :blush: ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Steady! I'm buttering you up for some help! Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
signalmaintainer Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I would lose the loco shed and make it a team track. ... Definitely; a team track is much more common. As Dave alluded to, switchers serving urbran areas are typically serviced at a larger facility. Even then, the power may change from day to day, with the switching crew picking up their locomotive at the nearest terminal office, the picking up their train off a track at a nearby classification yard, then going on to their assigned switching district. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 Steady! I'm buttering you up for some help! Best, Pete. I had an invisible ink post - I replied " What is it you need me to do??" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Nothing yet, Jack. Just want you to look over something when ready, if OK with you? Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 Of course - no problem! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 Strange that I recently posted a trackplan for the Claremont and Concord - and then, this morning this turns up on TrainOrders.com.The gentleman who took the photo, and then scanned and posted it, has very kindly given me permission to post it on here - the copyright remains with him. I think it is a cracking photo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Yes, lovely! What the heck is that running up the hill above the retaining wall on the right? Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 It is suggested on TrainOrders.com that it may be a gantlet track - - possibly to allow bi-directional running without needing turnouts - I have a very vague memory, from a long time ago post on the web, that there was a tram-type passenger service that ran along a roadside on a raised up trackage, possibly to reduce the gradient needed?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony_S Posted January 11, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2012 That Claremont and Concord photo is fantastic. I'm very pleased to see the trackwork on that gantlet track. Unfortunately it is my mainline track that ends up looking like that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 That thread has thrown up another link to photographs of the C&C - http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/detailfs?userid=91CE877CF16C43EEA91FEDF166979869&ndx=65&albumid=CCF19673C08C41CDB24CDACB1067E336&pictureid=06BF855D89694159A723C998B377EFB8 See photo 54 and compare to the one I posted earlier - with the switch being thrown Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Here's a link to their current websit - unlike the Morristown & Erie but like SMS they seem friendly......note that it list their customers and products. http://www.theccrr.com/home.htm I wonder why their HO is in Philadelphia? Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 love that website jack my brains doing overtime now (doesn't take much),thanks very much! got a spare 44t and #7 of helm,where's my pen and paper love the undulating track might be a bit of a problem keeping cars in there spurs but that my be a challenge, just like life! Ray from deepest west cumbria Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 I think the easiest is probably an up-rising lever between the tracks to catch the axle. like this - if painted a ballast colour it will barely be visible. Left hand side is "downhill in each picture - any vehicle moving uphill will simply push the brake over if it is "up" - just move the lever into the "downhill "position and the wire will catch the axle and be held by the weight of the vehicle - move it uphill and lower the brake when you need to go downhill - the round thing on the lever is a bit of lead shot to hold the lever over-centre in the non-brake position by gravity Brake OFF Brake ON The "Brake is bent paperclip in a bit of tube - it is easier to show than to try to explain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 #12 shows the gradients those 44 tonners had to contend with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 You'll find videos of the C&C on Youtube Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
signalmaintainer Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Just when I thought I finally had New England short lines and 44-tonners outta my system. ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
signalmaintainer Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 And here's another C&C track plan by someone from the Model Railroader forum: http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6364/claremontconcordnr6.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 That is nice - and capable of being broken down into individual layouts - very neat! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine coast Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 And here's another C&C track plan by someone from the Model Railroader forum: http://img402.images...tconcordnr6.gif Thank you for posting... That is excellent.....and very good timing ....as I have just started re-planning a large section of my layout and bits of that plan will do very nicely ... B) Regards Trevor.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 When I looked back at this post yesterday, looking for the address for Pete, I scanned through and picked up the photos of the Claremont & Concord. Brain went "tick" and I remembered a couple of trackplans from Model Trains May 1980, and Scale Model Trains May 1986, featuring a tiny shortline in Carolina - the Edgemoor and Manetta RR. The first is HO and the second in N scale - 44-tonner and 70-tonner locos are available in both scales from Bachmann, and although the E&M didn't use them, had it remained in existance it might well have done - but it occured to me that they would also make an excellent trackplan basis for a layout for the C&C, which certainly did have GE44-tonners locos. The earlier photo with the track on the raised wall would fit very nicely with the curve on the N version, and would work with the curve on the HO version too. The N version would upscale to HO in about 8'x4' - Model Railroaders favorite "beginners" size. The runround loops in the HO scale version should hold a minimum of 2, but better yet 3, standard 40' boxcars in each leg If used as originally intended with Lando as the blanket mill, making the world famous Cannon blankets, both legs were used for loading blankets into boxcars - you could spend a long time switching a train that arrives with three new cars when both legs are full! The E&M didn't use a caboose - but you could! Life not complicated enough? Then don't forget a weekly hopper of coal for the power plant, and another for the coal store at the far end of the loop! Of course if you are a real masochist you could re-instate the passenger/mail service with a drovers caboose. Happy days! Both trackplans are used with permission of Chris Ellis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVSNE Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 There's a lot of neat pictures of Claremont on the HABS web site, and a number of maps. I think they'd be very helpful for researching/layout design purposes. Here's one small section on the bridge itself: http://www.loc.gov/pictures/search/?q=Photograph:nh0256&fi=number&op=PHRASE&va=exact&co=hh&st=gallery&sg=true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 When I looked back at this post yesterday, looking for the address for Pete, I scanned through and picked up the photos of the Claremont & Concord. Brain went "tick" and I remembered a couple of trackplans from Model Trains May 1980, and Scale Model Trains May 1986, featuring a tiny shortline in Carolina - the Edgemoor and Manetta RR. The first plan there (May 1980) is one of my all-time favourites, that's always been at the back of my mind as a "One day I must build..." sort of layout.... I think it's a little bit optimistic as drawn for the sort of capacities talked about though, but it does appeal as a compact layout.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 One of my all time favourites too. I think it lends itself to being adapted well. Right now I'd cut out the short T section on the left and stretch the whole thing out a bit - having typed that I'm already having second thoughts!!!! Turning it into an L shape would really mean revamping and getting rid of the scenic break in the north/south section.... Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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