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Saturday 14th April 2012

10am to 5pm

Sunday 15th April 2012

10am to 4.30pm

 

St. Margaret's Hall, Coniston Road, Hatherley, Cheltenham, GL51 3NU

Organised by the Cheltenham GWR Modellers Group

 

Layouts to include

Barton Hill N Bishopsmead OO Cumberland Mineral Railway O-16.5 Figges Marsh TMD O Gas Lane OO Pallet Lane OO Polpendra N Red River N Teigl Tramway O-14 Thomas OO Wheal Elizabeth P4

Trade support - Model road vehicles - Refreshments

St Margaret's Hall is accessible for visitors with disabilities

Admission: £3.50 adults, £3.00 60+, £2 children



£8 family (2 adults + 2 children under 14 years)

All profits to CLIC

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Should any RM webbers want to have a go on Pallet Lane, you are more than welcome, I am on my own due to the clash with Trainwest!

 

Can I have another go, please? Jen might assist, if that's okay?

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Last year I spent the Sunday helping to operate Burton Bradstock and reckon there can be few exhibitions that combine so many high-quality layouts with such a small venue.

It also deserves some sort of award for being the best signposted exhibition I've ever been to!

Highly recommended - I only wish I was able to go this year.

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Bother! yet another expo with a quite enticing line up on the weekend of the 14th April. What is it about that date? Sadly will have to give it a miss - have fun anyway.

 

Nothing on for the previous 3 weeks and everything clashing again!

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Bother! yet another expo with a quite enticing line up on the weekend of the 14th April. What is it about that date? Sadly will have to give it a miss - have fun anyway.

 

Nothing on for the previous 3 weeks and everything clashing again!

 

Agree, especially as I am on the commitee of the BMRG wh's show is at Melksham on the same weekend. However for those in a car, Cheltenham is just over an hours drive from Melksham so it is possible to do both, especially if you are coming from the north as Trainwest is open till 6.

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Agree, especially as I am on the commitee of the BMRG wh's show is at Melksham on the same weekend. However for those in a car, Cheltenham is just over an hours drive from Melksham so it is possible to do both, especially if you are coming from the north as Trainwest is open till 6.

 

That would be possible if you were close and they were the only 2 shows on on that particular weekend. I'm located in the eastern end of the M4 corridoor and both Melksham and Cheltenham are just about reachable (for me) but there are several other good shows on the same date nearer or the same distance. It will already be a two show weekend as Trainwest is already a second choice and as it happens that weekend I can do two shows.

 

Now I accept that eliminating some clashes is going to be very difficult but I continue to fail to understand that periods, especially over holiday weekends, go by without a show and then two shows in close proximity and without any obvious shared benefit arrange to be held on the same weekend. It is almost as if it is deliberate. It is certainly as if the organisers do not talk to each other.

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We do talk to each other. The problem is Easter. Cheltenham has moved from its normal dates of the first weekend in April to clash with our normal weekend of the second weekend in April. They did this in order to avoid the Easter weekend but didn't seem to mind clashing with us.

 

Last year Crawley was the third weekend in April. This year it is, like Trainwest, the second. I have already contacted Crawley with a view to avoiding clashes in future, but they are tied to the school holidays which, like Easter, move.

 

If the date of Easter was fixed it would make life much easier, but as it is it can be as early as 22 March or as late as 25 April.

 

Maybe we should move Trainwest back to May. It used to be held in May, but was moved to avoid clashes with Railex, Derby and ExpoEM.

 

Sometimes you just can't win.

 

Geoff Endacott

Exhibition Manager, Trainwest

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Sometimes you just can't win.

 

I can appreciate that but in addition to Crawley being held in Horsham not a stone's throw from the minor events in Worthing, Guidford and Chichester; then there is Sparsholt (the one that has been top of my list for a year); then both Bournemouth and Amersham all of them within my travel radius and each of them also on my radar as potential and reasonable shows. The trouble with shunning easter is that everyone seems to have done it this year. Though I appreciate it is a moving target. But I think you can see what I mean by the odd accumulation of shows on the 14th/15th.

 

This is generally a busy time of year up to Railex when everything goes quiet. To move Trainwest into May would create contention with ExpoEM and Railex and a few others. But a clash with York is no real contest as York is so far north as to really be an overnighter from here. As good as York is I am not sure it has any real impact on shows down here?

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The trade goes to York.

 

Geoff Endacott

 

It does. But from my perspective I'm not sure what the relevance of that is. Although, as I have said elsewhere, I go to shows for the trade, the traders listed at trainwest are not among the traders I spend most with. To me they are all 2nd or 3rd rate and although I no doubt would spend at some of their stands, none of them are ones that I have regular spends or lists with. Nothing 7mm and nothing along the kit line (JE, London Road, Branchlines, Dragon, Alan Gibson, Slaters ...) not even Keven Robinson who usually manages to twist my arm. The likes of Squires and a.n.other books are at just about every show.

 

But Trainwest is not known for the traders, it is better known for having a worthwhile list of layouts. I am sure if it did clash with York I would prefer to attend York but that is not always possible as it is very expensive requiring overnight and additional driver costs.

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Correct me if I'm wrong Geoff, but I think Trainwest would like to get the more of the specialist trade, which would help bring more people to the show.

 

This is where I feel Trainwest been so close in the calendar to Bristol doesn't help, as the specialist trade does not really want to do two shows so close geographically and only three weeks apart. As most punters will have made most their purchases at one or other show.

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Correct me if I'm wrong Geoff, but I think Trainwest would like to get the more of the specialist trade, which would help bring more people to the show.

 

This is where I feel Trainwest been so close in the calendar to Bristol doesn't help, as the specialist trade does not really want to do two shows so close geographically and only three weeks apart. As most punters will have made most their purchases at one or other show.

 

Discussion continued here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/36444-trainwest-2012-14-15-april/page__st__50 .

 

Geoff Endacott

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I expect I'll be dropping in, as it's just down the road from me. I'm happy to offer a hand as a relief operator for Pallet Lane (or anyone else who wants a coffee/tea/toilet break!) - two days as a solo operator is a tough job!

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I expect I'll be dropping in, as it's just down the road from me. I'm happy to offer a hand as a relief operator for Pallet Lane (or anyone else who wants a coffee/tea/toilet break!) - two days as a solo operator is a tough job!

 

Thanks Mark, all help is appreciated!

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I dropped in today. Sorry I didn't keep my promise to offer a hand with Pallet Lane, but I'd forgotten when I wrote that originally that I'd have to have both the children with me as my wife is away, and I don't think it would have been practical to try to operate a layout and act as babysitter at the same time!

 

I have to say that I was impressed by the quality of layouts on view - it may not be a large show, but everything is worth seeing, there aren't any fillers. It's difficult to pick out a single "best" layout, but my personal favourite was Bishopsmead. Ellie, my eldest daughter, though, was particularly struck by Teigl Tramway (as well as Thomas, of course).

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