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BSK Modelrail Magazine 4mm Network Rail 975280 Mk2 DBSO Mentor NMT Mk3 NMT Carriages




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#1 Pete Harvey

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 15:39

Here is my version of the Network Rail Carriage 975280.
I know there has been some descusion about the Model Rail Magazine limited eddition model that is due out soon.

I have produced this because I wanted to and I have no plans to produce the etches as a conversion kit.

There are a few ideas I wanted to try out and see if they were possible and the worked out ok.

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Some of the windows needed filling in and some of the doors removing I shaved off the door hinges, bump stops and handles with a No: 9 Swan Morton scalpel blade and put them in a zip lock bag for use later or on another project at some time and then filled the door lines and sanded to give a smooth finish.

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I then ghanged to small end doors windows so they had portholes rather than full windows.
The etch was designed to be laminated and then fitted from the insite of the carriage side using the space that Bachmann have given in the platic moulding.

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The next thing was to build the louverd venerlation grills, I wantted a very prototypical look to them so I designed all three grills with indevidual leaves set at an angle of 35° this should give the best look when painted the were etched using .15mm thickness Brass, the lover leaves just push into place in the frames and are held in place with a tiny drop of super glue applied from some .45 nickel silver hand rail wire at each end.

The holes for the grills were cut in the body side after each grill was finished, so each hole would be fitted exactly to the drill.

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Once the grills were finished the window frames were next as Bachmann have produced there Mk1 sides with out the overlapping frames and 975280 has them so I designed a set of frames to sit in the window aperture left after the Bachmann window glazing had been removed.

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These were designed with a step etched into the rear and produced using .125mm thick Stainless Steel this is very thin in it's own right and thin enough to follow the curve of the Mk1 tumble home giving the right effect, they were fitted using super glue and the wire a drop in each corner first the fill in the gaps between the corners from the inside.

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The last majour thing to do was to remove the ribs on the roof and some of the air vents with the No: 9 Swan Morton scalpel blade used in a scraping action, being such a wide blade it levels off the platic its self and no need for any heavy sanding, the roof dose not have to be perfictly smooth as the hint of the old rib is enough to give the look of the prototype when painted.

There will be more to follow as I get to the painting stage.

There are plenty of refrence pictures of this carriage on the internet.

If you have any questions please ask?

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Edited by Pete Harvey, 07 May 2012 - 22:05 .

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 17:29

WOW these look great have you ever considered other network rail convesions like the mentor ot other carriges?

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 17:51

Do you mean like this?

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Edited by Pete Harvey, 06 March 2012 - 17:57 .

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 17:57

C'mon Pete, release these etches please!! I'm sure you would have loads of customers for them particularly Mentor!
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Posted 06 March 2012 - 20:18

pete all i can say is a want it =P and as tase said there is a market for network rail stock just a shame Hornby did not get it right with with mk3s. also while im on about network rail dont soupose you have got the mk1 BG genorator 6262?

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 00:12

Do you mean like this?

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Pete


Pete,

Those horns look good. Where are they from?

Cheers

Tom

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 00:14

Tom

the Horns are from a Heljan spares sprue I have no idea which loco model they are for sorry.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 00:40

All you need now to go with it is 975081, DC460000, and either 977985 with 2 x 31's or 9708 and 99666 with 1 x 31..............

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dont soupose you have got the mk1 BG genorator 6262?


6263...

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:04

That looks good Pete.

Especially the window frames. Quite a lot of people have asked me for the mk1 hopper windows for EMUs so there's probably a Market for those (and it would save me a job)

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:44

Argus

The reasons why I have designed and produced the etches are in the first few lines of the thread.

Jim

If people would be interested in window frames if they want to contact me through my site I would be happy to look at their requirements and sort out a design cost?

Pete

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:26

Hi Pete

Since you have already done the design, ill send them your way.

Cheers

Jim

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 11:20

The picture of Mentor on the OIversetts site is the same model on my layout (Peters Street) with Big Bobs serco 101 at either end at the DEMU show last year.

The window has been spotted and corrected on the model and that is progressing well.

Pete

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 17:46

Tom the Horns are from a Heljan spares sprue I have no idea which loco model they are for sorry. Pete


Thanks Pete.

Cheers

Tom

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 22:41

Mick has put on here before there is an Evergreen product, Clapboard I think, that comes in several sizes and makes suitable grilles, as appears fitted to his 6263.
This is a relatively easy conversion as the Bachmann BG breaks down into easily worked "modules".

Of course there is always the ebay source, a lot of money for a basic repaint in most cases. How many of these models do you see "converted", particularly generator vans, that have their original vac fitted underframe and untouched roof!!


Sorry to hijack the thread Pete, but I'll be detailing the conversion of 6263 here along with one or two other yellow items.

Cheers,
Mick

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 22:03

Here are a few pictures of 280 in primer as you can see the window frames give the right effect and look to the model.

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I have also put some primer on Mentor.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 22:37

Don't forget the underframe extras on 975280!

Cheers,
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 22:56

I know Mick they will be done get the body right first.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 22:58

I wonder if they're on the upcoming LE? :jester:

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 19:10

I have been trying out a few things and here are the results.

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The base model is a standard Hornby Mk3.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 23:09

Any plans to do 975814/975984/977993/977994/977995? Guess where I'm coming from?

Cheers,
Mick

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 18:39

very nice pete sure beats hornbys NMT stock but this seems a tad to easy for you fancy a chalenge? have a look at this the scottish snow train pic i found on google will it help at all? only time will tell http://www.northwest.../snowtrain4.jpg

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 22:57

Your model of MENTOR looks AMAZING!! I would definitely get those etchings if they were available! Can you please tell me how you went about making your MENTOR? I have had a go at one but I really want to do a proper one.

Thanks, James

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 18:21

Here are some uptodate pictyres of the progress on my model of Mentor.

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I sill need to dismantle the carriage and gloss varnish it apply the decals as well as to fit all of the detail to the ends and glaze the model, so plenty more to do.

Mentor was built using two other Mk1's and studying alot of pictures and working out where all of the windows should be then it was a case of cut and shut the body sides.

The glazing for 975280 is coming on and will be fitted after the decals have been fitted.

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This is also in yellow as is the Mk3 carriage and the DBSO pictures below.

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The glazing for the Mk3 will be the the glazing it came with the only thing I have done to it is to paint the insides of the glazing black.

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The DBSO still needs the plough sorting out and the glazing which will me a mix of the standard glazing and scratch built glazing.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 23:18

Hi Pete,

The train looks very nice indeed. and I can now see what you needed the insulators for!

The flat-section handrails on the Mentor coach are especially effective- much better than round wire ones. It must have taken a great deal of care to get them so neatly applied - are they etched?

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 23:35

Colin

The hand rails are .25mm thick x .4mm wide slaters micro strip styrene and they did take some care to glue in place.

Pete








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