RMweb Premium Grafarman Posted March 15, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 15, 2012 You've got 6 months+ to hone your skills, you'll only get better by doing something. Point taken; thanks for the vote of confidence - will ponder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmthtrains - David Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Ooh, right up my street, plenty of scratch built buildings on cross street. Question is which one to enter! One thought though, my new dlr layout will havr entirely scratch built stock and buildings, so if I enter this, which bit gets judged or can it be the whole thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 are we allowed to enter something we have already started (but still have a long way to go with!). I am thinking of my Queensquare station, and particularly the trainshed roof. I think it would be fair to say that entries are acceptable where a significant amount of the work takes place during the next 6 months or so. It also doesn't mean that it has to be complete but would be judged as it stands as of the end date. As long as it's clear what the start point was at the beginning and where it got to by the 'end' date then who am I to put unnecessary rules in place to restrict good modelling. I'm just worrying that Stubby may enter the Innovation category rather than the Scratchbuilt category. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted March 15, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15, 2012 I'm just worrying that Stubby may enter the Innovation category rather than the Scratchbuilt category. There is this idea, which could be adapted for a floating micro layout... http://twistedsifter.com/2011/10/floating-table-lamps/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campaman Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I scratchbuild, but I know my standards are not up to some on here, thats not to say that I am not improving as I feel I am but maybe the scratchbuilding needs splitting down dependant on materials being used, as I use card & texture papers and although Chubber may produce some stunning buildings the rest of us mere mortals realise that with card there are compromises from someone who is building using plastic, gravytrains buildings come to mind. I like the idea of the challenge as in theory it should get more people involved than previous layout style challenges but as already stated it may exclude the majority, probably also including my self. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Star Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I'm just worrying that Stubby may enter the Innovation category rather than the Scratchbuilt category. On the basis of effort (read innovation) involved in creating new interpretations of the rules (read distorting) to suit what has been done to date? Otherwise a jolly good idea for those who read RM Web and aspire to do better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dseagull Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Interesting! The scratchbuild challenge in particular is one that intrigues me. As someone who has recently taken the first tentative steps in 'proper' scratchbuilding of buildings (IE, working to plans instead of dreaming things up!), this will inspire me to push on and better myself to try and make something worthy of entering! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams442T Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Ah well, as neither Hornby, nor Bachmann has seen the sales potential in a North London Railway, outside cylinder, 4-4-0 tank I guess I'll have to go for that then............................. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 One thought though, my new dlr layout will havr entirely scratch built stock and buildings, so if I enter this, which bit gets judged or can it be the whole thing? There's no reason at all, in such cases, that it can't be the whole thing David. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted March 15, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15, 2012 Done! Okay, okay, I know it don't qualify.. Might enter the trackwork for Fourgig though ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iL Dottore Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I think it would be fair to say that entries are acceptable where a significant amount of the work takes place during the next 6 months or so.... Good to know as I'm only about 1/4 of the way into the build of MBH. I might as well enter it as well as the Halwill Goods Shed I'll be building in the next weeks for Olddudders. I'll also have a rummage to see what has not progressed much beyond the "concept" stage and consider entering those F Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugsley Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I think it would be fair to say that entries are acceptable where a significant amount of the work takes place during the next 6 months or so. It also doesn't mean that it has to be complete but would be judged as it stands as of the end date. As long as it's clear what the start point was at the beginning and where it got to by the 'end' date then who am I to put unnecessary rules in place to restrict good modelling. I'm just worrying that Stubby may enter the Innovation category rather than the Scratchbuilt category. Can I get away with entering the 37 in the innovation category? I haven't finished it yet, but I guess it is substantially complete in as much as most of the innovation has already taken place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60163 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Happy birthday, RMweb! Here's to seven more years of great community modeling. (and to my exit from the dreaded armchair stage!) Being a complete novice as of this writing, I doubt my chances of producing an entry that could compete with most, but as Stubby pointed out, You've got 6 months+ to hone your skills, you'll only get better by doing something. For what it's worth, I have most of your work saved and stuffed into my 'modelling inspiration' folder. Good luck to everyone with the challenge! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukedog Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I'm up for this one! I was considering my wooden Cambrian trestle bridge for Morfa Bach but as it is now complete it won't qualify. I am going to have to have a think for a day or two before I make any announcement of what my scratch build is. Cheers! Frank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinWalsh Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I have one or two ideas bouncing around in my head, think I will have to chuck my hat in the ring on the scratchbuild challenge. (might even manage to get a better result than last year) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonB Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 With something like 25 weeks to build an entry, based on his output last year of 4 entries in about 13 weeks, can we expect 8 entries from Stubby?? Not throwing a hat into the ring just yet, but will have to see how I get on with the buildings around, and including, the lower station of the Bridgnorth Funicular for which I have not yet done more than some preliminary sketches of this group.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Of course if a certain somebody modelling a certain Manchester terminus throws his hat into the ring the standards are going to be very high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Devil Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Does 3D printing count as scratchbuilding? I know we've had this discussion before, but I'm only thinking in terms of the competition? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 Does 3D printing count as scratchbuilding? I know we've had this discussion before, but I'm only thinking in terms of the competition? I suppose it does; a modern take on traditional skills. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted March 15, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15, 2012 Will definitely look to enter the scratch building category, A building for Cheddar will fit in nicely, the station and over roof would be the first thought. I also fancy trying to find some unusual freight prototype that will be useful for Cheddar..... I guess the constraining factor is going to be time (as Im working away from home until September, and only have a small tool kit up there). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted March 15, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15, 2012 Well, my hat's thrown in, I'll be scratchbuilding something (undecided yet exactly what it will be) but it will be using quite traditional techniques, it will be built from brass and there will be nothing etched, printed or grown... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katier Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Andy - Permissions seem to be wrong on the new 'scratchbuild' forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted March 15, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15, 2012 I suppose it does; a modern take on traditional skills. Interesting.... Maybe a third project will have to be considered then, would be a good kick in the backside to finally get on and try something with 3d printing. And 3d cad work can be done on the train back from Chester each friday afternoon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 Andy - Permissions seem to be wrong on the new 'scratchbuild' forum. I've checked and all seems OK at this end. What error message have you had? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Sorry, Andy - I'm just starting to scratch build a new baseboard for the new layout, but I really don't think I can enter that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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