298 Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 Hey, Andy - do I detect a pinch of Peter Norths influence in there? Just a bit, the initial idea was to do something in his "style" but set at night in Seattle in the 1990's. BTW, since his latest layout has wires on, do you think he's suffered a bit of Andy Gautrey influence....? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 BTW, since his latest layout has wires on, do you think he's suffered a bit of Andy Gautrey influence....? It crossed my mind! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 It crossed my mind! No wonder he said "No more layouts...." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 nah, I think he saw yours and thought, "Maybe just one more..." Has everyone seen the new rmweb challenge - maybe we should enter a transatlantic collaboration based on the OC switch job? Jack and the Prof on Design, Tony and Craig on stock, Pete on track, etc, etc, etc... (Apologies to all the names I've missed out - you all know your specialties better than me!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Klyzlr Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Just a bit, the initial idea was to do something in his "style" but set at night in Seattle in the 1990's. BTW, since his latest layout has wires on, do you think he's suffered a bit of Andy Gautrey influence....? Dear 298, So, despite appearances of a mass thread hijack, has the discussion inpired you to get a roll on your own version of the OC Switcher? Happy Modelling, Aim to Improve, Prof Klyzlr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 (edited) For those who don't "Step Sideways" off the (RMweb) beaten paths very often, can I introduce you (as part of the continuing thread Hijack ) to a rather nice US night-time layout, being built by one of the guys in Germany - there are some very talented modellers building US Layouts over there! http://www.the-gauge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=5320 Edited April 25, 2012 by shortliner 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_long Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Has the influx of views from your link crashed big blue, mysql errors now. I do like that layout, seemingly done on a budget but great to see it develop. The night shots are very atmospheric. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Dave - I honestly don't think I have that much influence - and no! I didn't crash RMweb either, although admittedly I had just posted when it happened! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 Dear 298, So, despite appearances of a mass thread hijack, has the discussion inpired you to get a roll on your own version of the OC Switcher? Happy Modelling, Aim to Improve, Prof Klyzlr Well, the Walthers 2-lane cantilever grade crossing signal arrived today, and the Cornerstone Rivoli Theater and Logic Rail Grade Crossing Pro are on order. I thought I'd start with a simple photo-diorama based on a grade crossing (inspired by the photo of the SW1500's next to the 505), but that quickly developed to become a 2' module, I did think about a 4' one with two crossings and a section of street running between, but I'm not sure I have enough buildings in store in order to finish it by June... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supaned Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Andy , are you going to try to replicate the rain in the Pacific Northwest ? I always think night time and rain effects look great , although how to reproduce it is always a big question... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Andy , are you going to try to replicate the rain in the Pacific Northwest ? I always think night time and rain effects look great , although how to reproduce it is always a big question... Safe to say we have an expert here on the forum... http://carendt.us/scrapbook/page87/index.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dullsteamer Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 For those who don't "Step Sideways"... Mark E. Smith fan, uhuh? Cheers, Mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Klyzlr Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Dear RMWebbers, It's been a long hard road, and some years, but I believe I've now gotten a bit of a better bead on the mystery of the missing diamond crossing. To recall: - 2010 Google Maps imagery shows a simple spur leading to the trolley-curve-tight "short track", no diamond crossing- 2004 FOGChart says the "Short Track" (track 785) crosses one side of the in-plant runaround via a diamond - personal onsite investigation and pics taken in 2013 supported the 2010 image Now, since we last spoke, I picked up a copy of the 1986 Oregon Div Brooklyn Sub SPINS doc.I immediately zero'd in on the Oregon City page (P21 for those reading along), which showed the "Short Track" (track 0853) curving over one leg of the pass via a diamond crossing. Curiouser and curiouser.... Anywho, the key piece of the puzzle fell into place tonight as I downloaded and installed the free version of GoogleEarth(as opposed to the browser-based GoogleMaps). https://www.google.com/earth/ Using the "Historical Imagery" timeline tool, I found sat imagery actually showing the "curving over a diamond" track array,dated up to July 2005. Now, unfortunately there are some pretty low-res images inbetween,but the next usably-clear sat imagery is dated June 2006,and the track array has changed to the "passing siding is shorter, short-track curves away cleanly without any sign of diamond crossing" configuration...(IE as documented in 2010, and personally viewed in 2013). It may sound odd, but this has been eating at me for years,and to now have an explanation,which is more than just conjecture or hypothesis,but actual visual-reference evidence,provides an actually-palpable sense of relief... Now, to add "Oregon City" to the growing pile of "what layout to build next" options... ;-) Happy Modelling,Aim to Improve,Prof Klyzlr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted November 24, 2016 Author Share Posted November 24, 2016 Thanks for bumping this thread, I'll have another read through it later. FTR, I'm hoping to have the latest reincarnation of the concept operable by next September for a Freemo meet, where it'll be operated as a basic 3-2-2 inglenook (and run that way as a stand alone layout). And also due to the generosity of friends, now have SW1500s in BN Green, SP Grey and UPY Yellow to play with.... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Klyzlr Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Dear 298, The SP and UP SW1500s can certainly claim to be "on company property" for various eras(although I don't have any pics of a SP SW switching Blue Herron Paper,and equally unsure if a "mixed consist" of paint schemes was run on point of "LIL75"), but the BN 1500 would certainly be a standout interloper... ;-)(maybe BNSF 3606 somehow escaped Seattle and took a run down to Oregon City?) Soooo, are you looking at doing pre-2005 "diamond crossing" or post-2006 "simplified" array? Happy Modelling, Aim to Improve,Prof Klyzlr PS Yep, I have a pair of UPY SW1500s in stock as well,just need to re-number to UPY 1166 and UPY 1117...(Did I mention how much I hate painting and decalling?) PPS I sit here wondering what actually prompted the change in track array?It can't have been a simple decision to deploy, given that all of the plant trackage in "in-street" under concrete/pavement... ...but hey, maybe I shouldn't loose any more sleep over why and just be thankful that we've now got confirmed what and when... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) AAAARRRRRGGGHHHH! I'd managed to bury this in the back of the deep, dark, recesses in what is laughingly known as my mind, and got the track laid and wired for my Sun Coast Industrial Park (See BNML2's postings in MRH for the trackplan http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/28070 and then John digs this back up again - which starts me wondering if this wouldn't work as an additional bit hung (hinged?) off a side - yes it would and NO! I won't!, at least not until a point somewhere in the distant future. Edit - link has now been sorted - my apologies Edited November 26, 2016 by shortliner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourthsVeil Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Link without typo: here HTH Armin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted November 26, 2016 Author Share Posted November 26, 2016 Dear 298, The SP and UP SW1500s can certainly claim to be "on company property" for various eras (although I don't have any pics of a SP SW switching Blue Herron Paper, and equally unsure if a "mixed consist" of paint schemes was run on point of "LIL75"), but the BN 1500 would certainly be a standout interloper... ;-) (maybe BNSF 3606 somehow escaped Seattle and took a run down to Oregon City?) Soooo, are you looking at doing pre-2005 "diamond crossing" or post-2006 "simplified" array? Happy Modelling, Aim to Improve, Prof Klyzlr PS Yep, I have a pair of UPY SW1500s in stock as well, just need to re-number to UPY 1166 and UPY 1117... (Did I mention how much I hate painting and decalling?) PPS I sit here wondering what actually prompted the change in track array? It can't have been a simple decision to deploy, given that all of the plant trackage in "in-street" under concrete/pavement... ...but hey, maybe I shouldn't loose any more sleep over why and just be thankful that we've now got confirmed what and when... At the risk of being thrown out of the OC Switcher Club (and everything else), mine is more likely to be a Blue Heron nr Seattle or any other waterside Pacific Northwest city than an exact copy of Oregon City- there are too many cliches that I'd like to include for it to be modelled on the exact location. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) Resulting from further "Stepping Sideways" - Having just seen Andy's (298's) post on FB - I came back to this and re-read it. Have also been reading Joseph Leal's posts http://bigbluetrains.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9383 and http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/30008, and re-looking at my drawing/track plans, I started to wonder if Joseph's idea for the Scrap warehouse couldn't be adapted. Thoughts centre around a pair of APA boxes, either permanently joined by gluing with suitable wood fillets, end-to-end, or hinged - so that one end folds back over the other - with a removable fiddlestick sector plate at the left to form the two-loco run-round, and a hinged drop-leaf exiting through the back, via Joseph's scrap warehouse for the 90° track, might not be a workable idea. Part of the problem is that I cannot find the dimensions of APA boxes. please note that this is, at least in part, a "thinking out loud" exercise - I'm currently in the middle of stealing Daniels O gauge Piedmont (converted to HO), and Alcanman's Waste Oil Recycling idea, and amalgamating them - however if anyone has any thoughts about this I'd be interested to hear them - There is nothing like bringing 5-year-old ideas back to life, or at least re-vitalising them! Edited July 2, 2017 by shortliner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted July 2, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 2, 2017 Resulting from further "Stepping Sideways" - Having just seen Andy's (298's) post on FB - I came back to this and re-read it. Have also been reading Joseph Leal's posts http://bigbluetrains.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9383 and http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/30008, and re-looking at my drawing/track plans, I started to wonder if Joseph's idea for the Scrap warehouse couldn't be adapted. Thoughts centre around a pair of APA boxes, either permanently joined by gluing with suitable wood fillets, end-to-end, or hinged - so that one end folds back over the other - with a removable fiddlestick sector plate at the left to form the two-loco run-round, and a hinged drop-leaf exiting through the back, via Joseph's scrap warehouse for the 90° track, might not be a workable idea. Part of the problem is that I cannot find the dimensions of APA boxes. please note that this is, at least in part, a "thinking out loud" exercise - I'm currently in the middle of stealing Daniels O gauge Piedmont (converted to HO), and Alcanman's Waste Oil Recycling idea, and amalgamating them - however if anyone has any thoughts about this I'd be interested to hear them - There is nothing like bring 5-year-old ideas back to life, or at least re-vitalising them! Hello Jack, APA boxes... Sizes are buried in this thead http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/91144-endbourne-a-modular-use-of-the-ikea-apa-boxes/ Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Thanks, Phil - I knew it was on here somewhere! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted July 2, 2017 Author Share Posted July 2, 2017 I like the idea of using an APA box on its own, but for something larger I'd look at a Tim Horn baseboard kit: http://www.timhorn.co.uk/1ft305mm-wide-baseboard-modules/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted July 2, 2017 Author Share Posted July 2, 2017 If anyone wants to follow the sporadic progress of Blue Heron, the FB page is here: https://m.facebook.com/groups/1364464647002737?tsid=0.32748547602716127&source=result I think non-FB users can look at it, credible members can be added to allow them to comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) Found some images of Blue Heron this morning from an art display that may give viewers some ideas - I think the open building on the RHS may be the open loading shed that was beyond where the track that went across the diamond Edited July 11, 2017 by shortliner 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 Those last two paintings are by Roll Hardy, his work around industrial Portland is well worth a look. The layout itself is progressing nicely and should be complete enough when it appears at the Midland Small layout Showcase in a few weeks. By which I mean that although no layout is ever truly finished, certain aspects such as modelling building interiors that I had previously shied away from are now quite rewarding. Here are a few recent photos: 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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