brian daniels Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Just in-case you have not seen it on another Heljan thread I thought I would start a separate thread for the new Heljan class 40 that was announced at Telford this weekend. No doubt there will be pictures added of the model as it appears.The 40 will be a disc version as that's the most numerous and it will also have the small headboard clips on the nose doors as the named ones had these and you can bet your life there will be more named green ones modeled than any other. Also if you don't want them then it's easier to remove them than having to make them and add them. The front ladder will be a separate part for you to add if so desired as will the frost grills. Although you "could" have separate ends for split and centre headcodes you will also need a different boiler roof and side access panel. No doubt the split and centre headcode might follow if the fly off the shelves but having said that we are still waiting for a centre headcode 37! And before you ask,I doubt it will go round as tight a curve as their other locos! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Thanks for the news on this excellent model. Already added to my shopping list and looking forward to it sitting next to my JLTRT version which goes around my 48'' radius curves after opening out the cutout in the floor for the motor bogies. Its tight but it does work. Same for my 45. As my JLTRT is the disc code version as well, a centre headcode version would have been my choice but I can understand the reasoning behind Heljan's choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic17 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Yes - can't wait for this to appear! - thanks for the update/drawings Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard carr Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 It looks nice Brian, but as I model in S7 getting it to go round curves may end up being an issue, its a real problem on my JLTRT one. I'm more interested in the wagons, the VAA van will fill a big hole in my North East 1981 layout. Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic17 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 I agree Richard those more modern trucks sound excellent - they'll sell loads of them - I wonder if they come unnumbered? By the way Brian re the 'headboard clips' I notice from photos (many on your Flickr site) that a number of 40's as well as the namers had these. The majority of locos in the range 4009X->40124 seem to have them too. Atleast it gives a few more options or are there any other differences which exclude many of the Darlington built examples? Obviously a few doors used to sometimes get swapped about too at overhaul etc.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Which ones had the ladder, from when seems to be contentious - even the most detailed book on the 40 is not clear...it's not something I remember either. I love these locos, I used to listen to the "whistle" lying in my bed at the family home. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Mmmm....quite convincing. Even though not in 4mm scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixteen 12by 10s Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 As one of the hard working volunteers that have restored and maintain D212 I have to say its exciting news. I just wish that someone from Heljan, would have asked permission before they laser scanned D212., obviously, this must be an oversight, and the Class Forty Appeal would like to put the records straight. It would be nice if they made gesture to the cash strapped owning group, as others who have used our assets have done. Gary Hinson Class forty appeal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Oh, dear.............. Those Dane's! Sneaking in the night to scan D212.....typical. So how does the computer generated picture compare? Best, Pete. PS Do you have a website link, please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Is it just me or is anybody else beginning to get a tad envious of all the new 0 gauge stuff coming through now especially with news of this announcement? If only space and cash wasnt an issue!! damn..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixteen 12by 10s Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Oh, dear.............. Those Dane's! Sneaking in the night to scan D212.....typical. So how does the computer generated picture compare? Best, Pete. PS Do you have a website link, please? Creeping in at night, not far off there. It looks good, there has always been a question asked regarding the sloping of the bonnet tops with 40 models, so it will be interesting to see how the Danes get on. Now, I am not going to let on, but there are one or two “post preservation” additions that would have been included in the scan, lets see whether they spot them. The other company who scanned the prototype, did converse with the owners so got there assistance in getting it right. Wonder if they will supply it with cracked bogies, we are just about to have them de-cracked at great expense. Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Ta. Website link for your Class Forty group? Good luck, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixteen 12by 10s Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 As requested http://www.trainweb.org/cfa/ http://www.facebook.com/Class40Appeal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gronk the shunter Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 God I do hope they get this one right as it's something I'd dearly love to have despite having nowhere at all to run it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomstaf Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Just in-case you have not seen it on another Heljan thread I thought I would start a separate thread for the new Heljan class 40 that was announced at Telford this weekend. No doubt there will be pictures added of the model as it appears. Brian, All this is very encouraging. Seeing as you've given Howes/HJ some good input on their projects, could you have a word and see if the air & ETH pipes can be updated so they represent something that is accurate, rather than the current 'vaguely air pipe' that you get with the current HJ 7mm diesels please? Cheers Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixteen 12by 10s Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 ETH on a 40, or are we talking about D255, in the 1960's Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic17 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Brian, I know this is very, very early days but since you've shown us the drawings do you know for the BR Blue versions is it likely to have 2 BR arrows on the bodyside (under each cab) or just 1 BR arrow which was always under the cab at the tops number end......or maybe they will do 2 versions as per the class 31??? - here's hoping for extra sales. I believe early BR Blue engines tended to have 2 BR allows and more later overhauls produced just the 1 arrow. Any info would be appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted September 12, 2012 Author Share Posted September 12, 2012 I think they will see how the sales go for the 2 blue 31's first before making their minds up on the 40 liveries. But lets hope that there are 2 blue ones offered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic17 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Yes lets hope for 2 types - it can't be too difficult to say do half of the production with 2 arrows & the other half with 1 arrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Or none and add your own ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic17 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Yes - I agree two tone green - that would be the preferred option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 The first pre-production class 40 has arrived As usual with a first sample there are a few little things to sort out but overall it's very impressive. It will be on Heljans stand at the Warley show next weekend if you want a closer look. If you can't get there then I will put some pictures up on here after the show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Not appropriate for my layout's location but any new rtr to encourage more people into O gauge, thus creating a bigger market to encourge more manufacturers to offer rtr stuff has to be a good thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 That was quick. It was only announced at the beginning of September. Please do post some photos Brian as I wont be at Warley. Persuade them to come to the O Gauge Traders Show in Reading ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 Heljan won't be at Reading on the 1st December but you bet your bottom dollar the 40 will be. I might have it painted by then as well in plain green! Pictures will be here after Warley, trust me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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