Andy Y Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 The masters for the weathered Westerns from Kernow have been completed by Mercig Studios for replication by Dapol's factory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjl1973 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Looking very good indeed, glad I didnt cancel my order! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted November 24, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2012 The buffer grease needs moving 2mm to the left Those who know Chris will understand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torr Giffard LSWR 1951-71 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 ....too much grey....more rust shades required around bogies, skirts etc for authenticity.....otherwise excellent. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombe Barton Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 SWMBO has just seen this - and said "Is this a model?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted November 24, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2012 Same, actually!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted November 24, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2012 Classic. P @ 36E Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted November 24, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2012 Resistance is futile..... It is a Western, It is a Western. Wonder what I can get for my detailed Heljans ?? Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted November 24, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2012 Now released in a Kernow MRC newsletter along with some outstanding other news which I'll let Andy break to the World Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon020 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Yes.... very nice. Agree that some further colour variation might be worth applying but that's surely the perogative of the owner/modeller. for factory weathering I think that looks superb. Congrats to Kernow, Mercig and of course Dapol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 ....too much grey....more rust shades required around bogies, skirts etc for authenticity.....otherwise excellent. Dave I hear what you say Dave, but having studied the 1976 weathering and recreated it for many locos - 1068 included - the weathering reminiscent of the last summer particularly was predominantly and unusually grey and dusty. Can't wait for these to be on general release. Congratulations and thanks to all parties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torr Giffard LSWR 1951-71 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Aft'noon Chard, It may be the case that the last days of the Westerns produced a more grey weathering but I'm hoping that the weathered maroon, green and earlier blue shades are also treated to weathering sympathetic to their period. Likewise I think that this is easily the best 4mm RTR Western produced so far and I will be looking for 2 or 3 for Torr Giffard. Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted November 24, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2012 I hear what you say Dave, but having studied the 1976 weathering and recreated it for many locos - 1068 included - the weathering reminiscent of the last summer particularly was predominantly and unusually grey and dusty. The Summer of 1976 was unusually dry and hot. I spent the early part of it in a new air-conditioned panel box - deeply grateful, too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1030western musketeer Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Superb a western at last. richard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthesnail96 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Ooof. Wonder if I could get away with one to put on the mantlepiece as a reminder of my time in Plymouth- admittedly that was 30 years after the last Thousands were withdrawn, but it's the best excuse I can think of... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted November 24, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2012 Seeing the photos has made me very pleased that I've pre-ordered one. Looks to be worth every penny!! Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 oh yeh, i like it, like some above post says, look out for lots of Heljan 52s for sale soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Strathwood Posted November 24, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2012 Sorry to pour cold water onto this Chris but you have the wrong size Inter City arrows affixed to D1030 in this livery, as all can see who refer to my books such as Looking back at Westerns pages 26 and 60, Sixties Diesel & Electric Days Remembered II page 89. Other than that sure they look very nice. Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted November 26, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2012 ....too much grey....more rust shades required around bogies, skirts etc for authenticity.....otherwise excellent. Dave I would agree that in a perfect world it probably should have more rust colour than grey around the underframe and bogies as in the photo of D1068 that Kernow has used on its website, but I certainly won't be cancelling my pre-order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted November 26, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2012 Underneath all that dirt and grime it is a truly superb Western Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted November 26, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2012 If the biggest bone of contention is the exact colour of the dirt then we really must have the "definitive Western" about to arrive! Dirt colour varied by date and location. Certainly some of it was rusty brown but taking a look at the close-up views of the wheels suggests the Kernow version isn't all black / grey. Those who saw the samples at Warley might be able to confirm how the actual thing looks but the photos might slightly misrepresent the colour if taken under harsh lighting or with flash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercig studios Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I would agree that in a perfect world it probably should have more rust colour than grey around the underframe and bogies as in the photo of D1068 that Kernow has used on its website, but I certainly won't be cancelling my pre-order. As a few people have commented the under frame to a Western is extremely variable and there is no 'correct' colour that can be used across time frames As part of doing this sample I spent many many hours and looked at hundreds of photos of what would make the most atypical colour variation for a mid 1970's Western. Added to this I also had to come up with something that would stand a chance of being easily replicated by the Chinese factory. This photo is typical of the ones I used as a basis for the weathering: http://www.flickr.co...N07/7204566064/ If people want to add rust etc then that is up to the end user but is an unrealistic proposition to expect a factory to produce the type of subtle effects that would be required to make that look realistic. M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon020 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 As a few people have commented the under frame to a Western is extremely variable and there is no 'correct' colour that can be used across time frames As part of doing this sample I spent many many hours and looked at hundreds of photos of what would make the most atypical colour variation for a mid 1970's Western. Added to this I also had to come up with something that would stand a chance of being easily replicated by the Chinese factory. This photo is typical of the ones I used as a basis for the weathering: http://www.flickr.co...N07/7204566064/ If people want to add rust etc then that is up to the end user but is an unrealistic proposition to expect a factory to produce the type of subtle effects that would be required to make that look realistic. M That's all a very fair comment. It's achieved a nice look and in retrospect it does reflect an overall grubby/worked appearance hiding all the brake dust and rust in a lovely freshly applied layer of grime. So yes, it suits well. Individuality can of course still be included by "the individual". Nice work! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Sorry to pour cold water onto this Chris but you have the wrong size Inter City arrows affixed to D1030 in this livery, as all can see who refer to my books such as Looking back at Westerns pages 26 and 60, Sixties Diesel & Electric Days Remembered II page 89. It also looks as though the model has the Talisman clips on the battery boxes which is wrong for this livery. Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapolDave Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Hi Geoff, This was just produced to verify and create the weathering. Please don't read anything else into a pre-prod that won't appear on the production model. Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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