BR_Blue_1986 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Hi, what are the exact colours required for the swallow livery? Is the the roof and exec dark grey the same on Windsor Castle? And finally, I see she had both black and red nameplates/ naming plaque, which year determines which colour plates? Edd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold pheaton Posted January 3, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2013 edd, Have sent you a PM... but the Bachmann windsor body is basically correct AKAIK the only mistake they made on the pre-production shell is the lower bodyside band should be white and they have it as "off white off white was "old" intercity livery the roof and body are the same shade, the black plates are as 47835 in swallow AFAIK it only carried red plates when it was in "old" intercity livery happy to be corrected though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold CovDriver Posted March 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2014 I managed to purchase an 835 bodyshell again its in the off white that to my knowledge it never carried hopefully with careful masking I can repaint the bottom to the correct colour of white and see what happens!! I'll post a picture before and after to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vac_basher Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Although I can't pin point the exact date, I have photographic evidence of 47835 in Swallow livery with red plates at the end of March 1990, and with black plates in September of the same year. So hopefully that narrows it down a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 It is interesting (perhaps) to note that Lima also had a 'Swallow' liveried 47 (838) with the grey/beige lower band. Is Bachmann guilty of copying another model rather than copying the prototype? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 It is interesting (perhaps) to note that Lima also had a 'Swallow' liveried 47 (838) with the grey/beige lower band. Is Bachmann guilty of copying another model rather than copying the prototype? "Prototype" Swallow liveried Class 47's had Falcon Grey on the roof and upper body side, with the lower body side in Silver White. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Are you talking about the prototype or Lima? If the former then I think we all already know that and that was not what I was referring to. If the latter then I can tell you that I have several Lima bodyshells that had beige at the bottom and Intercity in silver italic with the Swallow logo. I am well aware that this is incorrect. The point I was making (clearly I thought) was that Lima had made a mistake with the livery and I was wondering whether Bachmann might well have conducted their 'research' by looking at another model rather than photographs of the prototype. Swallow liveried Class 47's had Falcon Grey on the roof and upper body side, with the lower body side in Silver White. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold pheaton Posted January 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2016 I wouldnt have thought Bachmann would have referenced a lima model, the printing process for IC and mainline will be similar, and also IIRC Windsor castle was one of the several cancelled class 47 ltd editions, so I suspect Bachmann disposed of some pre-production shells, as there a number of shells of Windsor castle around that have the correct shade white, (I now own one of them). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 It must just be a coincidence then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I have a Lima 47838 bought new which has a white lower body side. Were there different batches? I bought 47835 from Bachmann upon release and it has a white lower body side. Some months later I picked up a second 835 bodyshell from Bach stand for £10 which had beige lower body side (planned respray into something else). This would seem to suggest Bach made an error and realised before release, but had a pile of wrong body shells to dispose of. Vi made same error on their 47/8 and on their twin pack 37/5s. I've heard it said that the colours didn't come out right due to undercoat affecting but my 37/5 lower body side looks exactly the same colour as my vi 37/4s in ic mainline... M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Hi, I seem to remember the Lima beige stripe version coming from an Intercity set. Regards Vin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold CovDriver Posted March 8, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2016 I know its been a while but I've now had the time to respray the lower edge to the correct colour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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