Mark Saunders Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 This is the industrial one that was at Lambton NSF when it closed! Mark Saunders 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 1, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 1, 2013 The cleanliness of those windows looks almost surreal compared with the general unkempt state of the loco. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Hi all and a happy new year This one just says limited edition http://www.flickr.com/photos/58263865@N05/6882548551/in/gallery-adogriff-72157631810839880/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasslands Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Looking forward to the 05. I wonder when Heljan will release pre-orders? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spackz Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 These and the early version of the class 26's are now available to preorder on Hattons, however they are listed as O gauge locos, for £80 they would be a bargain. I have informed Hattons of the error. Looks like they are doing the early version of the 05 with 4 variants starting in BR black. The class 26 has 6 variants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 27, 2013 Author Share Posted June 27, 2013 do we know for certain yet what version they are doing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spackz Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Not being an 05 expert I can only assume its the early variant due to one of the models being in br black with an early 111xx running number. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 As Heljan came over to Moreton back in May to measure up and photograph D2578, don't be surprised to see a Scottish version appear first. Paul J. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasslands Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I have finally got around to making a pre-order for one. I have chosen BR Black with 11xx numbers. This will suit my 1950s layout. Would quite like a green or blue one for my later period layout. How many examples gained BR Blue? Were they all painted with red buffer beams (not a big fan of this livery)? And finally did any retain the full length of buffer beam in BR green or BR Blue? Cheers Tom 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I have finally got around to making a pre-order for one. I have chosen BR Black with 11xx numbers. This will suit my 1950s layout. Would quite like a green or blue one for my later period layout. How many examples gained BR Blue? Were they all painted with red buffer beams (not a big fan of this livery)? And finally did any retain the full length of buffer beam in BR green or BR Blue? Cheers Tom Hi Tom The BR blue livery was only ever carried in BR service by D2554 (05001) while she was on the Isle Of Wight in her departmental role. D2595 is in blue but this is a fictitious livery and is the only 05 therefore to have a yellow buffer beam, all others having standard red beams. Regarding the question about the height of the buffer beam, it's reported in some magazines that 05001 has had it's buffer beams cut back and steps moved while on the island, this is untrue ! See below, a picture never lies As built http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?sa=X&rlz=1C1PRFC_enGB531GB536&es_sm=122&biw=1920&bih=961&tbm=isch&tbnid=lIrAf-jfZAPZKM:&imgrefurl=http://railphotoprints.zenfolio.com/p307899532/h41688DB8&docid=jmTMIy_zNY1ZOM&imgurl=http://railphotoprints.zenfolio.com/img/s4/v68/p1097371064-3.jpg&w=580&h=398&ei=MUdQUuiNB5Cr0AW_s4DIBw&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:20,s:0,i:151&iact=rc&page=1&tbnh=173&tbnw=271&start=0&ndsp=41&tx=117&ty=67 Now http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?sa=X&rlz=1C1PRFC_enGB531GB536&es_sm=122&biw=1920&bih=961&tbm=isch&tbnid=epXJc1vOvDRVHM:&imgrefurl=http://bestieboy.smugmug.com/Trains/Isle-of-Wight-Steam-Railway/19928301_jW7HPS/1568564628_243d2m3&docid=TyWmfgNnnIF3vM&itg=1&imgurl=http://bestieboy.smugmug.com/Trains/Isle-of-Wight-Steam-Railway/i-243d2m3/0/L/05001%252520(D2554)%252520Isle%252520of%252520Wight%252520Steam%252520Railway-L.jpg&w=800&h=534&ei=MUdQUuiNB5Cr0AW_s4DIBw&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:0,s:0,i:82&iact=rc&page=1&tbnh=183&tbnw=270&start=0&ndsp=41&tx=99&ty=69 Hope this helps Robin PS Have got my hands dirty on both D2587 and D2595 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasslands Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Hi Tom The BR blue livery was only ever carried in BR service by D2554 (05001) while she was on the Isle Of Wight in her departmental role. D2595 is in blue but this is a fictitious livery and is the only 05 therefore to have a yellow buffer beam, all others having standard red beams. Regarding the question about the height of the buffer beam, it's reported in some magazines that 05001 has had it's buffer beams cut back and steps moved while on the island, this is untrue ! See below, a picture never lies As built http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?sa=X&rlz=1C1PRFC_enGB531GB536&es_sm=122&biw=1920&bih=961&tbm=isch&tbnid=lIrAf-jfZAPZKM:&imgrefurl=http://railphotoprints.zenfolio.com/p307899532/h41688DB8&docid=jmTMIy_zNY1ZOM&imgurl=http://railphotoprints.zenfolio.com/img/s4/v68/p1097371064-3.jpg&w=580&h=398&ei=MUdQUuiNB5Cr0AW_s4DIBw&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:20,s:0,i:151&iact=rc&page=1&tbnh=173&tbnw=271&start=0&ndsp=41&tx=117&ty=67 Now http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?sa=X&rlz=1C1PRFC_enGB531GB536&es_sm=122&biw=1920&bih=961&tbm=isch&tbnid=epXJc1vOvDRVHM:&imgrefurl=http://bestieboy.smugmug.com/Trains/Isle-of-Wight-Steam-Railway/19928301_jW7HPS/1568564628_243d2m3&docid=TyWmfgNnnIF3vM&itg=1&imgurl=http://bestieboy.smugmug.com/Trains/Isle-of-Wight-Steam-Railway/i-243d2m3/0/L/05001%252520(D2554)%252520Isle%252520of%252520Wight%252520Steam%252520Railway-L.jpg&w=800&h=534&ei=MUdQUuiNB5Cr0AW_s4DIBw&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:0,s:0,i:82&iact=rc&page=1&tbnh=183&tbnw=270&start=0&ndsp=41&tx=99&ty=69 Hope this helps Robin PS Have got my hands dirty on both D2587 and D2595 Hi Robin Thanks for the info regarding the BR Blue version. Not a big fan of that livery, so I presume I will get a green one. I wonder if the Heljan one will have cut-away buffer beams or full length? I would presume cut-away (based on the pictures the photos they printed with the announcement). Where did you get the chance to get hands on with D2587 and D2595? Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted October 6, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 6, 2013 Hi Robin Thanks for the info regarding the BR Blue version. Not a big fan of that livery, so I presume I will get a green one. I wonder if the Heljan one will have cut-away buffer beams or full length? I would presume cut-away (based on the pictures the photos they printed with the announcement). Where did you get the chance to get hands on with D2587 and D2595? Tom Hi Tom I am a bit confused by your term "cut away buffer beams". The ER batch with the smaller 3ft 4ins driving wheels and lower cab had shallow (but standard) depth buffer beams compared to the NER and ScR 3ft 9ins wheels and large cabbed locos which had deeper buffer beams. The deeper buffer beams were common on industrial locos as they made life easier when jacking the loco back on the track after derailing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 (edited) Hi Robin Thanks for the info regarding the BR Blue version. Not a big fan of that livery, so I presume I will get a green one. I wonder if the Heljan one will have cut-away buffer beams or full length? I would presume cut-away (based on the pictures the photos they printed with the announcement). Where did you get the chance to get hands on with D2587 and D2595? Tom Hi Tom I was for many years part of a 3 man team who owned D2587. D2767 and D2774 at Bury. A close friend owned D2595 and we were all share holders of D5054. We later went on to buy 20107 and 25901.but that's another story Early Hunslets had smaller beams with full length one becoming the norm. later on. It was learnt very early that diesel shunters on poor or industrial track when derailing with short beams did damage to there wheels, brake gear and sanders when they "landed" in the dirt while with full length beams the shunter would mainly land or beach it's self onto of the rail, so most loco builders did this after a lot of customer requests . Remember a 08 can be rerailed quickly but a lot of damage can have been done to it's running gear, the ones at Sheerness had full beams put on which helped them a lot http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/queenboroughsheerness/h364ac83b#h364ac83b Please note battle damage and lack of sanding gear. D2587 had a big derailment into a weigh pit at Chadderton and if it wasn't for the full beam taking the full force and stopping her fall all the way in she might not have been saved. We had to take off the beam to straighten it I'am no expert really and I bow to anyone better info on this subject P.S. Am I the only one that likes BR blue on 03's and 08's but hate this livery on any other early BR shunters Robin Edited October 7, 2013 by 25901 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted October 7, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 7, 2013 All the first batch of BR 05s had the same buffer beam, although some industrials of this type had deeper ones - not to make jacking up easier but to prevent the loco falling in the gauge and turning over in the event of a derailment. The later ones with the higher cab have a deeper buffer beam with smaller cut outs in the corners but there are few dimensions in common with the earlier locos - which is why we do two separate kits for these. Incidentally the first batch includes two completely different sized engine casings and front cab windows. I can't wait to see what sort of a mixture the rtr version might be. Michael Edge Judith Edge kits 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share Posted November 11, 2013 Speke Junction class 05 and a jackshaft at Widnes in the 1960s.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/70943143@N03/10345032866/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share Posted November 11, 2013 shunting at Widnes http://www.flickr.com/photos/70943143@N03/10345031546/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 12, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2013 (edited) EDIT - just realised that this is also in the Helajn Warley 2014 thread - but I've left it here as it's specific to the 05. From the Model Rail Facebook page (ta to the DEMU forum) OO Hunslet/BR class 05 Diesel ShunterTwo types will be produced to accurately portray the differences on the prototypeType A2500 - D2574 in BR green livery2501 - D2578 in BR green livery with 'wasp' stripes (preserved)2502 - D2582 in BR green livery with 'wasp' stripes2503 - CIDER QUEEN in green livery with 'wasp' stripes (industrial)Type B2520 - D2591 in BR green livery with 'wasp' stripes2521 - D2600 in BR green livery with 'wasp' stripes2522 - D2595 in BR blue livery with 'wasp' stripes (preserved)2523 - DEPARTMENTAL 88 in BR green livery with 'wasp' stripes Cheers, Mick Edited November 12, 2013 by newbryford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colmflanagan Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 So D2574 will be produced. I am really surprised -and dead chuffed. I model the Glasgow & Sou'west part of BR in the early/mid sixties - specifically Stranraer Harbour - I may be the only ever to do it in this way ! Picture attached with a Bachmann (incorrect) Class 03 and Derby lightweight in the station. Two 05s,Nos D2574/5 were allocated there and I have a blurry photo of one at work. Thanks Heljan! Now, what about a Class 126 "Ayrshire DMU" set then? I can always dream. Colm Flanagan 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium it's-er Posted December 23, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 23, 2013 Goodness - that is an awesome model of Caledonian Princess, stalwart of the Stranraer Larne service for many years. I remember sailing on her in 1968. Later moored as a floating pub and restaurant on the Tyne in Newcastle, but she seems to have disappeared (from recent trips down the east coast mainline). But what a model! John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colmflanagan Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 There's a thread in "kitbuilding" on this site, also on my railway's thread on irsh railways group - just search for caledonian princess - and i didn't buld it! The ship was broken up in turkey in 2009, having spent more years of its life as a floating nightclub than it did as a ferry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O. Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 http://brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=class&id=5&type=D&page=alloc Hi, So, as a Geordie... If I bought the Heljan green D2592 (mostly Hartlepool), would I be safe in a simple renumbering as D2594 (Gateshead, Dec 16th 1961 – Aug 23 1963)? Or are there significant build differences? Cheers, Steve O. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Hi, So, as a Geordie... If I bought the Heljan green D2592 (mostly Hartlepool), would I be safe in a simple renumbering as D2594 (Gateshead, Dec 16th 1961 – Aug 23 1963)? Or are there significant build differences? Cheers, Steve O. There are no significant build differences between them so renumbering D2592 to D2594 should be easy. The only thing you will have to watch is the OHL flashes. When built they didn't have any, (The model of D2600 should be modeled like that), but somewhere around 1962-3 OHL flashes started to appear on locos. It is this version with OHL flashes that D2592 should be appearing. There is a photo of D2594 on the web taken at Easter 1960 showing D2594 without OHL flashes. However this may not be an issue for you. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 The EP must be due soon, there seems to have been nothing new news wise. Really looking forward to this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted October 3, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 3, 2014 A few more photos of D2578 taken on a Branch Lines Society day at Moreton: - 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Did anyone ask about this at Warley this weekend? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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