swsjames Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 I spoke to a man on the Heljan stand at Warley on Saturday. He confirmed that they have changed manufacturer, and said that the next batch of Manning-Wardles should be released around May 2018. He also told me that they would exchange the chassis of first batch models when the new ones are available. I hope the new batches don't de-rail as badly, and that their valve gear doesn't jam and break! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Chris Chewter Posted November 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2017 Thanks PaulRhB, that's what I understood. However Hattons have removed the original SR Green Manning Wardles (Exe and Taw) from their website. They both still sit in my pre-order list giving me the slightest glimmer of hope. Ah well, lets hope they still turn up and instead do some modelling whilst I wait... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted November 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2017 105mm over couplings. As I understand it the original three are still being made at the new factory followed by the next batch. Some never arrived at all in the first batch. My pre orders for the SR liveried pair Taw & Exe are still valid according to Hattons. fingers crossed here aswell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted November 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) Thanks PaulRhB, that's what I understood. However Hattons have removed the original SR Green Manning Wardles (Exe and Taw) from their website. They both still sit in my pre-order list giving me the slightest glimmer of hope. Ah well, lets hope they still turn up and instead do some modelling whilst I wait... Well even if the second run turn up first I'm sure there would then be demand enough for the originals to complete the set Edited November 27, 2017 by PaulRhB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted November 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2017 105mm over couplings. As I understand it the original three are still being made at the new factory followed by the next batch. Some never arrived at all in the first batch. My pre orders for the SR liveried pair Taw & Exe are still valid according to Hattons. Many thanks. I think an order for one may be imminent... Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) I spoke to a man on the Heljan stand at Warley on Saturday. He confirmed that they have changed manufacturer, and said that the next batch of Manning-Wardles should be released around May 2018. He also told me that they would exchange the chassis of first batch models when the new ones are available. I hope the new batches don't de-rail as badly, and that their valve gear doesn't jam and break! For info as the ex-owner of 3 L&B Locos ( Now long since returned & refunded) I can confirm the valve gear did not actually jam it just fell apart! Derailing was caused mainly by the strange arrangement of power collection from the pony trucks Heljan have announced LYD in Black livery Edited December 28, 2017 by Stevelewis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) Hattons have a S/H L&B YEO for £130 listed, described as a poor runner as it has broken valve gear! The price they are asking is not much less than I paid for my first 2! Although the buyer may possibly be able to obtain a replacement chassis from Heljan when the new ones are available, it was stated somewhere that this is what they intend to do, although they may require proof that the chassis to be exchanged is from the original purchaser and not pre used. Edited December 29, 2017 by Stevelewis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjgardiner Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 I feel like asking any questions about these locomotives is going to open a can of worms. But being disconnected from the grapevine and gossip in the UK, means I never am anywhere to see or hear anything. I have one of the first run Taw in Southern Green on order with Hattons, which I gather never came in (or if they did they were all rejected for the valve gear issues that triggered a re-design/change of factory from Heljan). The part number (9952) doesn't show up in searches on their site anymore as i think someone noted previously, but its still in my pre-orders page and wish list page. I noticed today that in addition to the 2nd Run group, there is now a 3rd run of Lew and Lyd models listed, at a lower price point than the 2nd run, but not as low as the Pre Order Price showing in my account for the first. This is mostly for me an exercise in trying to see if anyone has any idea if the first run models will appear, or a date for budgeting purposes. As with many of us these days no doubt, I've got a lengthy list of products which we've had to pre-order, which is fine, but I try to make sure i have money in my budget for when things are going to arrive, and it's hard to budget when the answer seems to be a shrug and who knows. Any insight from anyone who may have heard anything from Heljan or a conversation with a dealer would be appreciated. Cheers Stephen 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Gaugemaster currently lists 9952 as due March 2018 http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=HN9952&style=main&strType=&Mcode=Heljan+9952 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 And shows it as sold out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew575 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 The listing for 9952 on the Dundas Models site says "RELEASE IS EXPECTED APRIL/MAY 2018". https://dundasmodels.co.uk/webstore/index.php/hikashop-menu-for-module-108/category/499-Heljan-ready-to-run-models Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Casting my mind back to the release of the first batch, the release dates were extended many times, I therefore think that it is a case of wait and see, although the retailer who I buy the bulk of my items from has just told me that the last info he received was for delivery 'AROUND' Late April into May (hopefully this year!) We shall wait with baited breath Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjgardiner Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Lookit that, an email from Hattons today saying delivery now expected in May 2018. I guess we shall see. Fingers crossed. Stephen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Lookit that, an email from Hattons today saying delivery now expected in May 2018. I guess we shall see. Fingers crossed. Stephen Same for me. My pre order quoted, is for 9951 Exe in Southern livery, one of the original versions that had the chassis problems. This indicates Heljan are close to getting replacement production runs produced. Maybe they were able to salvage the bodies from the rejected production, that could be used with a new modified chassis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) Email from Hattons, the models of Lyd are due between April and June 2019. Still no word of a RRP. Edited March 7, 2018 by Paul.Uni Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivegreen Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) Lookit that, an email from Hattons today saying delivery now expected in May 2018. I guess we shall see. Fingers crossed. Stephen Same here for the Taw that I ordered many moons ago at a pre-prder price somewhat below the one Hattons give on the e-mail received today, yet they have never told me they are not going to honour that lower pre-order price! I'll be contacting them this evening for clarification. Edit: have contacted Hattons - awaiting reply. Edited March 7, 2018 by olivegreen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjgardiner Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Same here for the Taw that I ordered many moons ago at a pre-prder price somewhat below the one Hattons give on the e-mail received today, yet they have never told me they are not going to honour that lower pre-order price! I'll be contacting them this evening for clarification. Edit: have contacted Hattons - awaiting reply. My Pre-order in my account still shows the lower original price, not that from the email today, So i assume that remains the price i will pay. Stephen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymzHatstand Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 As Stephen states above, my pre-ordered pair on the website still show the original price, contrary to the emails today so I'll be interested to hear what feedback you receive Olivegreen. Cheers J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivegreen Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 As Stephen states above, my pre-ordered pair on the website still show the original price, contrary to the emails today so I'll be interested to hear what feedback you receive Olivegreen. Cheers J My Pre-order in my account still shows the lower original price, not that from the email today, So i assume that remains the price i will pay. Stephen Reply received from Hattons: the lower, pre-order price as on our accounts with them (ie not the higher price in the e-mail Hattons sent yesterday) will be honoured. Full marks to Hattons, and I thank them. Mike 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted March 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2018 Reply received from Hattons: the lower, pre-order price as on our accounts with them (ie not the higher price in the e-mail Hattons sent yesterday) will be honoured. Full marks to Hattons, and I thank them. Mike Excellent news as I have two of the originals on order. Now to decide when to order the next batch. Really need to sort out the shorting issue on my Backwoods Baldwin 'Lyn'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_R Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 ‘Exe’ now showing in stock at HMC - revised model? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 If you mean hattons I cant see any showing as in stock. Most likely it is from the new manufacturer so hopefully revised assembly or parts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted April 7, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 7, 2018 If you mean hattons I cant see any showing as in stock. Most likely it is from the new manufacturer so hopefully revised assembly or parts Hereford Model Centre: http://herefordmodels.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=340_346&products_id=10390 cheers, Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Chris Chewter Posted April 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2018 Hattons update now states September 2018 for Exe and Taw, with Lew becoming available in Jan/ March 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) Lynton & Barnstaple OO9 Update 9950-9956 L&B/SR Models, Version 1 We have now finalised testing of the latest revised samples and these have been approved allowing production to proceed. Delivery is expected by the end of September. This production run is sold out at the factory, so please check your local Heljan stockist for availability. We had hoped to have this delivery much earlier but unfortunately the current labour situation in China has had a negative impact on these models. 9960-9963 Version 2, LYD/LEW These newly announced models represent the original locomotive SOUTHERN No. E188 ‘LEW’ and the new build No. 190 ‘LYD’ in its various livery guises. Advance orders are now being accepted for these models. Please contact your Heljan stockist to pre-order yours. Current delivery estimate is Q1 2019. From https://www.facebook.com/heljanas/posts/1869291976466993 EDIT: I see that Hattons no longer show a made up price for Lew and the Lyds, but an actual price of £168 each. Edited April 19, 2018 by Paul.Uni Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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