RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted May 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2018 The Luftwaffe done some serious damage there back in the 40's it was a Baedeker target but nothing as bad as the RAF/USAF job on Dresden. War was ever lacking in morality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2018 The Luftwaffe done some serious damage there back in the 40's it was a Baedeker target but nothing as bad as the RAF/USAF job on Dresden. Coventry was first bombed in November 1940 as it was a major industrial target and this was the raid which caused the greatest damage to the city and various factories in the area. The so called 'Baedekker Raids' took place in April - June 1942 and did not include Coventry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted May 25, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2018 Coventry was first bombed in November 1940 as it was a major industrial target and this was the raid which caused the greatest damage to the city and various factories in the area. The so called 'Baedekker Raids' took place in April - June 1942 and did not include Coventry. Yes, the 15th of November 1940 and here's a shot of the bombed station afterwards. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welchester Posted May 25, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 25, 2018 Yes, the 15th of November 1940 and here's a shot of the bombed station afterwards. lnwrcov1569.jpg And people want to go to 1940s weekends at heritage railways... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john dew Posted May 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2018 Allegedly British Intelligence knew Coventry was the intended target. Churchill had to make the agonising decision not to give the city advanced warning because the Germans would have realised we had cracked Enigma Decisions like that put the problems of modern day politicians in perspective Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted May 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2018 And people want to go to 1940s weekends at heritage railways... And in German uniforms you can't make it up, I bet Coventry station was up and running in a matter of hours after being hit. Mike I stand to be corrected on the Baedeker raids I was lead to believe all Citys were hit randomly throughout the war years by a flick of a page in that book I must admit I didn't google it to check naughty chair for me stand back Chris. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 And in German uniforms you can't make it up, I bet Coventry station was up and running in a matter of hours after being hit. Mike I stand to be corrected on the Baedeker raids I was lead to believe all Citys were hit randomly throughout the war years by a flick of a page in that book I must admit I didn't google it to check naughty chair for me stand back Chris. Past 1941, the Germans didn’t really have the capability to bomb the uk at night in scale. By then, the raf had effective airborne radar and was shooting down aircraft in sufficient numbers to deter the Luftwaffe. Besides, as the allied bombing offensive grew, they needed all their night capabilities for defensive and they had multiple other competing uses for their medium range bomber force. Their targeting was based on postcard targets hence the Baedeker name - I believe a prewar German tourist guide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2018 Past 1941, the Germans didn’t really have the capability to bomb the uk at night in scale. By then, the raf had effective airborne radar and was shooting down aircraft in sufficient numbers to deter the Luftwaffe. Besides, as the allied bombing offensive grew, they needed all their night capabilities for defensive and they had multiple other competing uses for their medium range bomber force. Their targeting was based on postcard targets hence the Baedeker name - I believe a prewar German tourist guide. Baedeker Guide books were published over many years - from the 1850s to the1970s, somebody has actually bothered to put a list of them on Wiki! And an interesting piece of totally irrelevant information - based on the number of Air Raid Red warnings the most 'heavily' (in reality that means most instances) bombed place in Britain in WWII was Falmouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 And in German uniforms you can't make it up, I bet Coventry station was up and running in a matter of hours after being hit. Mike I stand to be corrected on the Baedeker raids I was lead to believe all Citys were hit randomly throughout the war years by a flick of a page in that book I must admit I didn't google it to check naughty chair for me stand back Chris. Times change and so do people hopefully. We survived the Plymouth blitz relatively unscathed; even my Dublo layout perched on the Morrison shelter, and now being a lot older can understand why some choose to recreate the era, if only for a day or two. It was a unique time and made a great impression on a lot of people, possibly like those who attend such related events. Sadly, for a lot it doesn't hold such exciting memories but as the generation who lived through it all, die away, younger persons who know nothing of it will see no harm in re enactors dressed in German uniforms of another age add to the effect. They are already bombarded with movies and TV programmes which depict the real horrors of WW2 so the sanitised version seen on station platforms should not unduly affect them. Brian. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted May 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2018 Past through a sunny Brent a few minutes ago, no one on the platforms and the branch was also empty. I visited the station yard during the afternoon. You wouldn't have seen me. I needed rawlplugs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I visited the station yard during the afternoon. You wouldn't have seen me. I needed rawlplugs. See anybody dressed up as German soldiers? There's usually an RAF 'erk on the platform! Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welchester Posted May 25, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) Times change and so do people hopefully. We survived the Plymouth blitz relatively unscathed; even my Dublo layout perched on the Morrison shelter, and now being a lot older can understand why some choose to recreate the era, if only for a day or two. It was a unique time and made a great impression on a lot of people, possibly like those who attend such related events. Sadly, for a lot it doesn't hold such exciting memories but as the generation who lived through it all, die away, younger persons who know nothing of it will see no harm in re enactors dressed in German uniforms of another age add to the effect. They are already bombarded with movies and TV programmes which depict the real horrors of WW2 so the sanitised version seen on station platforms should not unduly affect them. I take your point, Brian. It's not something I experienced (born 1960), but my parents did; father volunteered in 1939, served in the BEF until the evacuation in 1940, should have gone to Crete, but spent a long time in hospital after an adverse reaction to a vaccine and was released back to the GWR. His younger brother (serving in an RAF balloon unit) was killed in South Wales. The thing is, I got into a conversation with some parishioners of mine who had been to a 1940s weekend at the SVR, had really enjoyed it and claimed, "It was a great time; better than to-day." No, it bloody wasn't. Edited May 26, 2018 by Bishop of Welchester Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john dew Posted May 26, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26, 2018 Baedeker Guide books were published over many years - from the 1850s to the1970s, somebody has actually bothered to put a list of them on Wiki! They were revived in the nineties.......not sure for how long....I have the first english edition of the 1991 Baedeckers France....probably worth a fortune. ....not I had forgotten all about it until Mikes post.......brought back some happy memories of trips to France in the late nineties. Its a good comprehensive guide with a rather different style from the norm. I guess that we are a tad off topic......always assuming ANTB has a set topic......in any event I seem to recall the owner started the diversion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted May 26, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26, 2018 See anybody dressed up as German soldiers? There's usually an RAF 'erk on the platform! Brian. There's also two WAF's in the down station building. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted May 26, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 26, 2018 Heads off. Prepping for the arrival of a decent loco at the WSR at about 12.40 and lo, there is a Western at Bishops Libbyyard right now. Phar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted May 26, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 26, 2018 Rob, you off to Wemberlee on Monday? Come on you Light Blues etc. Janner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted May 26, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26, 2018 Rob, you off to Wemberlee on Monday? Come on you Light Blues etc. Janner Yes, a few miles driving in the next two days with going to Aylesbury tomorrow as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Heads off. Prepping for the arrival of a decent loco at the WSR at about 12.40 and lo, there is a Western at Bishops Libbyyard right now. Phar Westin Kampainir 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Rob, you off to Wemberlee on Monday? Come on you Light Blues etc. Janner Would they be playin Exekiter Sity by any chance ? N.O.Rivallree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted May 26, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 26, 2018 Would they be playin Exekiter Sity by any chance ? N.O.Rivallree Grecians tis be my andsome. Can't have they up with Plymuff can we? P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Grecians tis be my andsome. Can't have they up with Plymuff can we? P Its all Greek to me ! Georgeo Ballious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary hill Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Its all Greek to me ! ECFC_2000s_Grecian_Mascot.jpg Georgeo Ballious Completely One of the more peculiar club nicknames: https://offsiderulepodcast.com/2015/03/27/grecian-mythology-or-fact-the-mystery-of-exeters-nickname768/ Makes a pleasant change from nicknames derived from club colours, geographical location or some probably long dead local industry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted May 26, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26, 2018 We have just found a couple of home-made lollies in the freezer, plus some chocolate brownies that I bought a while ago and which CTMK can't eat for dietary reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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