RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted May 20, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 20, 2013 Pete's been busy over the weekend All the brass castings have arrived, just waiting for the resin castings and the first offs should be ready for completion - looking mighty fine to me! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Having seen this thread, I found myself sat next to #3 at Westbury the other week, so grabbed some detail pics for any kitbuilders. I'd shot the unit previously at Leeds (2007) - and those images are also included in the collection - including a high angle shot of the original roof details if anyone wants to backdate - thanks for the info ref the rebuild, I'd wondered why the vents looked somewhat different between the two sets of images! Link to images: http://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/Allinthedetails/Wagons-and-OTP/ZWA-Harsco-rail-grinder/ 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted May 20, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 20, 2013 Thanks for that Martyn, looks like Brian is keeping his machine in good order 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account 2 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Just saw this thread... very excited!! Any idea on the pricing? I so badly wish there was a Class 90 kit as good as this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted May 21, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 21, 2013 Costs are not finalised yet as final prices for castings etc have not been received. Also the best way to move forward with bogies and drive system will not be finalised unitl the first off chassis is built. Watch this space, but Pete is not planning to launch the kit until Warley (autumn this year). Hope that helps 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted June 3, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2013 Latest pics from the workbench of Mr Harvey The diseasel is there just for scale comparison Those visiting the Melton Show at the weekend should be able to see the first two car set in primer 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Thats shaping up a treat. Very impressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gt.Shefford Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Looking very impressive. Any news regarding motorising the model. Will it definatly be a black beetle, and if so how will you to gain access to tighten up the bogie retaining screw? Tis issue caused me real problems on the 08-16 kit - I had to completly redesign the roof and chassis. Will you have the model at next months DEMU show? Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted June 4, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 4, 2013 Hi Jonathan There will not be a model going to DEMU I am afraid. As for the drive system there is something in development at the moment and after a revision to the drive system it will not be a Black Beetle. It is still in the design stage as some parts need to be finalized, but there will be easy access to remove the upper body on the driven unit for wiring and maintenance. The modeller will have a shopping list of parts to buy hopefully from just three suppliers, (this is to allow other manufacturers to get a piece of the cake so to speak) the motor and method of connecting the motor to the final drive is to be decided by the modeller. Hope that helps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gt.Shefford Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Thanks,for the update, I only thought Blackbeetles would be more preferable as they are avaliable in OO,EM, and P4 off peg. If a custom mechanism is being produced will it be avaliable or capable of being built in EM or P4? Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted June 4, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 4, 2013 From what I have seen so far EM/P4 might be an issue as the sides of the bogie frames are quite thick (possibly for strength) so there might not be room for the wider axles etc. I'll pass on the comments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted June 4, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 4, 2013 Checking the design there is 22mm clearance between the inside faces of the bogie frames. Is that enough? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gt.Shefford Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Depends, on a couple of factors. Measuring a Gibson wheel set, the width from outside face to outside face is 21.83mm, so yes 22mm would be ok, if the bogie was designed with internal top hat type bearings (you could file off the pinpoints on the standard 26mm axle). The width between the side frames on a Cambrian Y25 bogie for example is 23.9mm, these are designed to use brass cup bearings, and being plastic they are inherently flexible allowing the wheel set to be sprung into place - I suppose this in not possible on the grinder if the bogies are 1 piece resin castings. Could separate cosmetic sides fitted to a sub frame be considered? Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted June 4, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 4, 2013 Pete's been a busy boy today. #1 2 car set ready for priming Note: the model has been designed primarily for Harsco Rail Ltd who have commissioned display models for marketing purposes and secondly as a kit for the majority of UK modellers. If modellers of the other UK disciplines wish to alter the kits to suit then that will be up to them, to do so. Any changes that can be made to components not already finalised to assist in this process will be considered as long as it does not compromise the project as a whole. More details of the drive bogie will be released as they are firmed up. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
virginhst539 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 very nice, hopefully this will lead to more departmental stock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted June 23, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 23, 2013 watch this space, more photos to come soon :-) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammy Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Sneak peek tonight looking good Pete I'm counting the penny's now lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted June 27, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2013 Andy's given his blessing for me to post this pic that he took of the grinder on Pete Harvey's "Peter's Street" Frankly I think he's having us all on and he's photoshopped a picture of the real EU1 onto Pete's layout Seriously though, having seen the model today when it was handed over to our Sales Director I am truly impressed and Pete has surpassed all expectations in this project 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account 2 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I was wondering if that was indeed a model.... Excellent work! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mr.S.corn78 Posted June 28, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2013 Hi, That looks great, can't wait to get my hands on a kit. Cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted June 28, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2013 I was wondering if that was indeed a model.... Excellent work! Too clean to be the real thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted June 28, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) Possibly, but our crews do look after the machines, not like the ones in the USA that are more black than yellow But yes, a waft of underframe dirt would not go amiss and the roofs don't get cleaned between annual maintenance Edited June 28, 2013 by RedgateModels 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trent Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Seriously though, having seen the model today when it was handed over to our Sales Director I am truly impressed and Pete has surpassed all expectations in this project Absolutely...that is stunning. Can't wait for this to be released, just need biff to go and record one so we can have DCC sound. Stoneblower next please Pete....... Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welly Posted June 28, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2013 Here's one in action in Scotland. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted June 28, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2013 Thanks for posting that I've not actually seen one in action before. The machine is UK1,I used to visit for safety inspection at Tyne Yard before I became desk bound Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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