neal Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 (edited) Spotted this today, and I must say it looks very nice. Perhaps it may get here in time for Santa!?http://www.Bachmann.co.uk/details.php?id=109&vis=2Neal Edited August 4, 2014 by neal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dseagull Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Certainly looks very nice to me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLPG Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Another nice model. One to look forward to. Wonder how long it will take to get to the shops though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted May 16, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2013 One of the most well detailed backheads we have seen from Bachmann in quite a while Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linners Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Even without it's livery this is an exquisite looking model - I'm looking forward to buying one of these! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Looks like Bachmann has gone for the inverse-taper Midland Johnson chimney rather than the later (Deeley?) parallel one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted May 17, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2013 Pictures on Kernow website. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted May 17, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 17, 2013 Wrong region for either of my next 'layouts to come', but I will have a model of 1708 when they do it, as I recall it from the early days of the KWVR. When I was a lad I chopped the cab roof off a Triang Jinty to make a model of it! By the look of the different colour of plastic, the whole boiler front ring/smokebox is interchangable for different models? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 It would be nice if the cab cutout thickness could be scalloped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted May 17, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2013 It would be nice if the cab cutout thickness could be scalloped. Perhaps it can be removed and someone will do an etched replacement? Looks like a lovely model, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbyandbf3fan Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I've had an email from hattons saying; 'We have been informed by Bachmann that this item, viewable at http://www.ehattons.com/StockDetail.aspx?SID=60870 has had its running number amended from what was originally announced. It will now be released with running number 41661. Running number 41708 will now be released in BR black with late crest (item 31-432).' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Are my eyes deceiving me or is that splasher a bit big? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted January 17, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2014 Are my eyes deceiving me or is that splasher a bit big? Somebody at Barwell knows there will be a set of EM/P4 wheels going in there.... Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Somebody at Barwell knows there will be a set of EM/P4 wheels going in there.... Ian Possibly prototypical width and a larger diameter to accept 00 flanges? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) Wrong region for either of my next 'layouts to come', but I will have a model of 1708 when they do it, as I recall it from the early days of the KWVR. When I was a lad I chopped the cab roof off a Triang Jinty to make a model of it! By the look of the different colour of plastic, the whole boiler front ring/smokebox is interchangable for different models? Likewise, not my modelling area, but will also have a model of 41708 as I spent many happy hours keeping it in running condition on Swanage Railway. It's also helpful to have a well detailed backhead if it's an open-cab. Edited February 15, 2014 by bike2steam 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMay Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Then major variation would be for a round-topped boiler instead of the Belpaire variety. However, I note other similar models with firebox variations have not been produced. The splashers do look a bit large and wide compared to the prototype, and the cab does also seem a little robustly designed. Just out of interest can you get right-sized wheels and splashers in P4? Understand that Bachmann want the cab to retain its shape after you've dropped it on the floor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 It would be nice if the cab cutout thickness could be scalloped. ...the cab does also seem a little robustly designed...Understand that Bachmann want the cab to retain its shape after you've dropped it on the floor. It does look somewhat heavier than the cutout on its close relative, Bachmann's 3F model, once I had the screen image scaled the same size as the model. But is that just the light coloured plastic visually overstating the width, and it will 'reduce' once black? No real reason I can think of for an open back tank loco cab to require any more robust sections than those on a similarly proportioned tender loco cab. Or is it possible that some might be likely to pick up the tank loco by the cab roof? Surely not, when the tank sides offer a good central gripping point to get fingerprints all over... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy P Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Looking at this pic from Kernow (The original from Bachmann has dissapeared) http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/images/prod_40062.jpg Viewed from the front, the cab cutout appears to feature quite heavy beading/framing/strengthening. The actual side sheets may not be as "robust" as they look from the rear 3/4 view. Whether this is correct, acceptable or "good enough" will be in the eye of beholder. I suspect that when the model is painted black it won't be the first thing I notice about it. RP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 A bit of a silly question, but did 41708 run with a full cab in BR service? As most of the pictures I have seen of her show her as a half cab. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Downer Posted March 3, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 3, 2014 A bit of a silly question, but did 41708 run with a full cab in BR service? As most of the pictures I have seen of her show her as a half cab. Certainly had a half-cab in May 1960, so I'd guess the answer is no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 How about this;- http://www.bdca.org.uk/gallery/index.php/Ransomes-and-Rapier/ADRR95207/159-re-wheeling-41708-1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Warrior Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 The last time I saw 41708 in steam at KWVR towards the end of it's last boiler ticket, it was still running with a half cab and I have never seen photos of it running with a full cab in BR days. As far as I know the full cab has only been fitted since it has been at Barrow Hill. I don't know why or if it has ever steamed in this form. Anyone know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) 41708 at Swanage - 1988, apologies for the quality of pre-digi pic ! 1708 had a 'back-cab' built for it when the loco was first overhauled in preservation, and it (usually) followed the loco where ever it went, well it did up until it left Swanage. At Swanage the back-cab was fitted outside the summer season. Incidentally the old '1708 Group' also owned a small Peckett 0-6-0ST, named 'Cunarder' that was at Swanage in the 1980's, that loco was rebuilt, on request of the 1708 Group, as a tank loco to give it a 'Midland' look, as a joke I christened it '47160', it had the number painted on, and it went down like a lead balloon with the purists, all the 'Mr Angries' wrote and complained to the Steam Railway mag - all good fun !!! Edited March 3, 2014 by bike2steam 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams442T Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Just had an email from Hatton's saying that, as a guide, the LMS 1F should be available Sep / Oct 2014. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted March 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 24, 2014 Probably the one LMS locomotive (apart from a 'coal tank') that I would have on my layout.... Ian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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