Multiple identity account 2 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 (edited) Spotted this on Heljan's facebook page. They are doing a HO scale Class 66 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=536529916409879&set=a.320946651301541.81182.178273575568850&type=1&theater http://www.rocky-rail.com/page7.html Edited June 10, 2013 by Jeremiah Bunyan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs4 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Looks nice doesn't it ? The Bachmann one is good enough apart from its running characteristics (in my opinion) Market saturation here though so I doubt they'll do a OO version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account 2 Posted June 10, 2013 Author Share Posted June 10, 2013 Looks nice doesn't it ? The Bachmann one is good enough apart from its running characteristics (in my opinion) Market saturation here though so I doubt they'll do a OO version Heljan's one certainly does look lovely. But it's the European version. I doubt they will do a OO scale one. I don't like the Bachy one anyways. Still prefer the Hornby one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frobisher Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 There's no one such thing as "the European version" in regards the class 66. There are detail differences for different batches but UK locos have served on mainland Europe, and vice versa though some differences do put some batches out of gauge for the UK (cab aircon enhancements for instance). By its very nature, the Heljan tooling will provide for a detail version that could be authentically painted as a UK locomotive, but they won't as the UK RTR H0 market is vanishingly small. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account 2 Posted June 10, 2013 Author Share Posted June 10, 2013 There's no one such thing as "the European version" in regards the class 66. There are detail differences for different batches but UK locos have served on mainland Europe, and vice versa though some differences do put some batches out of gauge for the UK (cab aircon enhancements for instance). By its very nature, the Heljan tooling will provide for a detail version that could be authentically painted as a UK locomotive, but they won't as the UK RTR H0 market is vanishingly small. I meant that there is a difference with the headlights, aircon units etc... and with respect to the model the scale! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frobisher Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 The only thing that marks the model out as a continental rather than UK one is the doubling up of the air brake pipes on the buffer beam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
(The) Youth Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Heljan orginally announced a 4mm scale one around the time of bachmanns was announced (2004?) however they backed down following the announcement of the Bachmann one IIRC Presumably they had already gone some way to researching the 66, measuring up etc so I guess this is using the data obtained then. Interesting this goes in competion with the mehano version which is also being rereleased this year although I'm not sure if its just going to be the 5 door version. Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account 2 Posted June 10, 2013 Author Share Posted June 10, 2013 I commented on their wall post on facebook asking ''will they do a OO scale one'' their reply was ''At this stage we do not have any plans of the class 66 in OO gauge. Of course you should never say never'' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frobisher Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 I think if they produced an accurate 00 66 to the same specification as the proposed H0 one they might get quite a few sales as it would probably nose ahead of the Bachmann model overall. Would be a bit risky of course. Now here's a wild thought. Perhaps they could take another swing at the 86 but in H0 learning from the mistakes of the 00 now they are getting exported to Hungary and Romania? (coat please...!) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traksy Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 H0 specs: - New molds- The only HO Class 66 with all wheels powered- Heavy (+600 gr), higher adherence- Metal chassis, plastic body- 5-poles powerful motor with 2 flywheels- Grids and fans photoetched- thin metal handrails- Warm white LEDs- Available both in AC & DC- Sound versions planned (Loksound)- Superdetailed locomotive Looking at the photos and the specs this seems to be a better version that the Bachmann one. A metal chassis improves the looks of a model by a lot in my opinion (Hornby class 67 anyone?) and the missing sand tubes are in Heljan version as well. I would be surprised if they don't release it in OO. May be as a special commision by a magazine? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesTor Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I have always felt the underframe on the Bachmann 66 to be hugely lacking, with little real detail with regard to the complex rodding/pipework, which is indeed one of the main characteristics of the prototype. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkchinaclay Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) Can anyone help with general detailing parts for Hornby Class 66's - does a parts manufacturer produce the different headlight units now seen on the various types of Class 66? I've got a Hornby 66 in GBRF Europorte livery and, although the light clusters on this model are a bit "in between" the two main styles in the real thing, the colour is wrong (black) for the actual loco (66736) which I only discovered after purchasing the model at a show. The rest of the livery and finish looks great so I may consider getting a few more of them if I can could change the light units, there does not seem to be much consistency in the choice of light cluster fitted across the fleet either numerically or by operator! Edited December 1, 2014 by norfolkchinaclay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkchinaclay Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 p.s. I know the Bachmann model is superior for accuracy and correct body type etc but the number of releases seems to have slowed (more liveries/running numbers on the way Bachmann?) and I have heard some shockers about the running characteristics if you are unfortunate and get an iffy one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDP4D Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I'm particularly amazed at the amount of detail Heljan have added. I surely think it's the best Class 66 out there. Pity that they don't do a OO gauge British variant with that detail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 47137 Posted December 5, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) I asked Heljan about their class 66 engine at Warley ... I'm not sure how much was lost in language but the discussion was about as dry and off-putting as I could imagine ... - The H0 class 66 was a limited edition. - The quantity of models made is a secret (the chap didn't say why). - The model was not imported into the UK. - There will be no more models (the chap didn't say why). - The model is almost sold out, and the only place you can buy it [new] is a model shop in Germany (the chap didn't say which one) There are a couple of Marklin-compatible models on eBay at the moment, but I haven't found a reason to go for a Heljan one over a Mehano one with a view to a repaint into a British livery. All-wheel drive sounds nice, but the Mehano one is a usefully powerful model in its own right. I wonder if someone has the Heljan model and can tell us about it. - Richard. Edited December 5, 2016 by 47137 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I asked Heljan about their class 66 engine at Warley ... I'm not sure how much was lost in language but the discussion was about as dry and off-putting as I could imagine ... - The H0 class 66 was a limited edition. - The quantity of models made is a secret (the chap didn't say why). - The model was not imported into the UK. - There will be no more models (the chap didn't say why). - The model is almost sold out, and the only place you can buy it [new] is a model shop in Germany (the chap didn't say which one)... That's a prepared script to discourage interest in this particular subject if I am any judge. We undertook a one off exclusive commission of a specified volume and that's it, all finished; no further plans being entertained. There's some Utubery https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8O1DIxjWIQ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGP Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 A HO scale 66 would be nearer British TT sized Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Actually equidistant in scale ratio between both 3mm and 4mm. The really interesting thing with an HO 66 is to put it alongside an HO model of the US equivalent traction unit, and appreciate just how much 'pruning' was undertaken to squeeze it inside the UK moving loading gauge. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Western Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 What about a 7mm scale Class 66? Surely an iconic locomotive which saved railfreight in the U.K. ? Numbering over 400 locos, not to mention the European based ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I'm particularly amazed at the amount of detail Heljan have added. I surely think it's the best Class 66 out there. Pity that they don't do a OO gauge British variant with that detail. I guess you've not seen the ESU one then? http://www.esu.eu/en/products/engineering-edition/dieselloks-in-h0/class-66-in-h0/ Still in H0 scale for the wider market, this is an absolutely amazing model. I haven't got one but a mate of mine has a couple and they're great fun to play with. I don't care for the smoke myself, I find that about as realistic as fingers on a duck but the sound and visual effects are brilliant. The model detects when it is going around a (sharp) curve and gives flange squeal, when you slow down, not only do you get brake squeal, you also get brake block sparks! Of course, the running and haulage capacity are first class. I do want one! Of course, if ESU could be persuaded to do a 4mm scale version, I'm sure it would knock spots off ANYTHING else in the UK market! But, I doubt they would enter such a volatile market. John. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesTor Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) I guess you've not seen the ESU one then? http://www.esu.eu/en/products/engineering-edition/dieselloks-in-h0/class-66-in-h0/ Looks incredibly nice with regard to detailing especially around the underfame/solebar and bogies. Seriously knocks spots off the Bachmann model. Edited December 6, 2016 by YesTor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted December 7, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 7, 2016 The Hobby Shop in Faversham may still have some Heljan HO 66 models. Well priced and they offer terrific service too, if anybody is looking for the model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted December 7, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 7, 2016 The ESU model is superb, personally I think that for what it is the model offers better value than sound equipped Bachmann models of the 66 but that's just my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 47137 Posted December 7, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 7, 2016 The ESU model is superb, personally I think that for what it is the model offers better value than sound equipped Bachmann models of the 66 but that's just my opinion. I am wondering ... are the Heljan and ESU models available only as DCC? Perhaps their market in Europe actually demands the sound and smoke effects and so on. - Richard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I have a strong feeling that the HJ 66 was available as DC, AC or DCC models, no sign of it on their website though. HTH, John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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