Bachmann to produce ex LBSC Atlantic H2 Class 4-4-2

[Garethp8873]

I don't think there's a bucket big enough to drool in... I think a swimming pool is needed

[GreenGiraffe22]

Incase anyone missed it, model Rail uploaded a short running video, I am reassured by how well it handles relatively tight point work =) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=reqpFJFGtCU

[gr.king]

The discussion relating to cranked connecting rods (or con-rods, but not "cranks"), plus the middle steps and the side-play in all of the wheel sets repeats a series of known knowns (with thanks to Mr Rumsfeld) established by those who own the parent Ivatt Atlantic model, whose chassis inevitably shares the same characteristics. The O4 (ROD) that went before had the same bent con-rod arrangement too. A number of us HAVE successfully straightened such con-rods on those models if the full sideplay on the driving and coupled wheels was not required. Washers to control the wheel sideplay are of course required, and I deemed it prudent to fix a reinforcing strip of thin nickel silver to the inside face of each straightened rod, as even with great care, signs of cracking tend to appear where the bends in the top and bottom webs previously where. It might be sufficient to use strong glue to attach the reinforcing strip to a well cleaned and abraded inner face of the rod, but I preferred to attempt to tin the inner face of the rod with 145C solder (which worked) and then solder on the extra strip. I had no problems with over-travel of the crosshead on the forward stroke after straightening the con-rods, but I believe I trimmed a tiny amount off the front of each piston rod to ensure that it did not strike the front of the cylinder moulding.

This information is of course of no use to anybody wishing to rely on the warranty.....

Edited August 20, 2018 by gr.king

[Edwardian]

Incase anyone missed it, model Rail uploaded a short running video, I am reassured by how well it handles relatively tight point work =) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=reqpFJFGtCU

 

Thank you for the link. Very impressive, and even more enjoyable with the sound muted.

 

While it is this BR Black cash-cow version that will bring the greatest return, I remain eager to see a release announced using the "as built" tooling, complete with bogie brakes, that was shown early on as an EP. 

 

All very mysterious that no hint of a production version has been forthcoming since.  Bachmann give little away, even in response to direct questions, so the mystery must continue.

[Paul.Uni]

According to the availability page of the Bachmann website, the H2 models are due in September. The H1 and GNR C1 models are due October.

Edited August 21, 2018 by Paul.Uni

[34theletterbetweenB&D]

According to the availability page of the Bachmann website, the H2 models are due in September. The H1 and GNR C2 models are due October.

My heart gave a little lurch on reading that. A pretty little Ivatt 4-4-2T out of the blue... It's very naughty to go teasing so.

[GreenGiraffe22]

According to the availability page of the Bachmann website, the H2 models are due in September. The H1 and GNR C1 models are due October.

 

Availability page updated as recently as August 15th, so presumably the H2s are on the ship or will be very soon to be here for September? How long is the crossing, a few weeks?

[JZ]

Little known fact. When they went to Bournemouth, they were regulars on the Somerset & Dorset. Can't imagine how Ivo Peters managed NOT to photograph at least one.       Looks like mine might be waiting for me when I return from Australia.

[dibber25]

Thank you for the link. Very impressive, and even more enjoyable with the sound muted.

 

While it is this BR Black cash-cow version that will bring the greatest return, I remain eager to see a release announced using the "as built" tooling, complete with bogie brakes, that was shown early on as an EP. 

 

All very mysterious that no hint of a production version has been forthcoming since.  Bachmann give little away, even in response to direct questions, so the mystery must continue.

 

The alternative to the music is the office background noise, phones ringing etc, as the test track sits between the railway titles and a whole bunch of car magazines. In future we may try filming at my home instead, but on this occasion, I was on holiday out of the country when the review sample was tested.  (CJL)

[Steamport Southport]

The discussion relating to cranked connecting rods (or con-rods, but not "cranks"), plus the middle steps and the side-play in all of the wheel sets repeats a series of known knowns (with thanks to Mr Rumsfeld) established by those who own the parent Ivatt Atlantic model, whose chassis inevitably shares the same characteristics. The O4 (ROD) that went before had the same bent con-rod arrangement too. A number of us HAVE successfully straightened such con-rods on those models if the full sideplay on the driving and coupled wheels was not required. Washers to control the wheel sideplay are of course required, and I deemed it prudent to fix a reinforcing strip of thin nickel silver to the inside face of each straightened rod, as even with great care, signs of cracking tend to appear where the bends in the top and bottom webs previously where. It might be sufficient to use strong glue to attach the reinforcing strip to a well cleaned and abraded inner face of the rod, but I preferred to attempt to tin the inner face of the rod with 145C solder (which worked) and then solder on the extra strip. I had no problems with over-travel of the crosshead on the forward stroke after straightening the con-rods, but I believe I trimmed a tiny amount off the front of each piston rod to ensure that it did not strike the front of the cylinder moulding.

This information is of course of no use to anybody wishing to rely on the warranty.....

 

That is informative in that it can be done.

 

Maybe an alteration to try after it's passed it's warranty date and had a bit of use then.

 

 

 

Jason

[Graham_Muz]

My review of the H2 is in the October issue of BRM for which the digital version went live yesterday and a version on my blog at https://grahammuz.com/2018/09/07/the-Bachmann-ex-lbscr-h2-class-brighton-atlantic-4-4-2-grace-and-presence-in-one-locomotive/

[Gordieb01]

My review of the H2 is in the October issue of BRM for which the digital version went live yesterday and a version on my blog at https://grahammuz.com/2018/09/07/the-Bachmann-ex-lbscr-h2-class-brighton-atlantic-4-4-2-grace-and-presence-in-one-locomotive/

Excellent review Graham,  thank you.   Looking forward to receiving mine from Model Railways Direct all the way to here in Christchurch NZ shortly.

[LNWR18901910]

I bet we all know of the replica built at the Bluebell Railway, but what about Bachmann producing a promotional model to help support the funds for the new-build replica?

[tractionman]

Looks like a review due in the October issue of Railway Modeller

 

https://m.facebook.com/RailwayModeller/photos/a.105024046199291/1846754552026223/?type=3

 

Due out this Thursday?

 

All the best,

 

Keith

[LNWR18901910]

Looks like a review due in the October issue of Railway Modeller

 

https://m.facebook.com/RailwayModeller/photos/a.105024046199291/1846754552026223/?type=3

 

Due out this Thursday?

 

All the best,

 

Keith

I've seen it at my local model shop earlier today and it looks nice and promising!

[Pre Grouping fan]

I bet we all know of the replica built at the Bluebell Railway, but what about Bachmann producing a promotional model to help support the funds for the new-build replica?

In the past Bachmann have donated money from the sale of the sheffield park station buildings. So hopefully they will do a similar thing with the model of Beachy Head they are releasing.

Edited September 11, 2018 by Pre Grouping fan

[LNWR18901910]

In the past Bachmann have donated money from the sale of the sheffield park station buildings. So hopefully they will do a similar thing with the model of Beachy Head they are releasing.

Exactly. That's a good idea.

[adb968008]

I bet we all know of the replica built at the Bluebell Railway, but what about Bachmann producing a promotional model to help support the funds for the new-build replica?

The Replica they are building is 32424 Beachy Head.

That’s the same model Bachmann is making.

[JSpencer]

The Replica they are building is 32424 Beachy Head.

That’s the same model Bachmann is making.

 

My Bluebell collection is starting to look very UN-prototypical for any time period. Beachy Head is a good few years from being complete but most of my collection is 80s or 90s with some covering post 2000.

The day I build the Sheffield Park with those Bachmann buildings, I will have people saying "The Q1 never run with Beachy Head". "Bluebell was not in that colour with Stowe". "The USA tank has been out of service for years". "Your 9F has the wrong tender". "9017 was not running with Birch Grove in that colour".

I won't to do all this in DCC but, the worst thing of course is that the sound fitted Adams radial is in EKR colours, something she never carried in preservation.

[34theletterbetweenB&D]

My Bluebell collection is starting to look very UN-prototypical for any time period. Beachy Head is a good few years from being complete but most of my collection is 80s or 90s with some covering post 2000.

The day I build the Sheffield Park with those Bachmann buildings, I will have people saying "The Q1 never run with Beachy Head". "Bluebell was not in that colour with Stowe". "The USA tank has been out of service for years". "Your 9F has the wrong tender". "9017 was not running with Birch Grove in that colour".... the sound fitted Adams radial is in EKR colours, something she never carried in preservation.

Have you considered that they don't all have to be on view simultaneously? You could roll through the years with only 'correct' combinations of stock on view at any one time. Then you can finish up with any combination you like to include Beachy Head and the EKR liveried Radial tank alongside the class 666 'Rulebreaker' fuel cell-electric stock on the Eastbourne-Edinburgh-Eire Irish Sea Bridge/Thamestink services of 2044.

[adb968008]

Have you considered that they don't all have to be on view simultaneously? You could roll through the years with only 'correct' combinations of stock on view at any one time. Then you can finish up with any combination you like to include Beachy Head and the EKR liveried Radial tank alongside the class 666 'Rulebreaker' fuel cell-electric stock on the Eastbourne-Edinburgh-Eire Irish Sea Bridge/Thamestink services of 2044.

Agree..

 

One thing about preserved lines.. is they don’t age very much.

The stock changes (and don’t forget locos are hired in and have galas, renumber for a weekend etc etc)... but the architecture changes much slower than the rest of the world, similarly accurate to a date authenticity of a preserved railway is largely nil.. when I saw pictures of a king on mk3’s air braked on the royal train at the Severn valley, then you truly know anything is possible.

Edited September 12, 2018 by adb968008

[JSpencer]

Have you considered that they don't all have to be on view simultaneously? You could roll through the years with only 'correct' combinations of stock on view at any one time. Then you can finish up with any combination you like to include Beachy Head and the EKR liveried Radial tank alongside the class 666 'Rulebreaker' fuel cell-electric stock on the Eastbourne-Edinburgh-Eire Irish Sea Bridge/Thamestink services of 2044.

 

Agree..

 

One thing about preserved lines.. is they don’t age very much.

The stock changes (and don’t forget locos are hired in and have galas, renumber for a weekend etc etc)... but the architecture changes much slower than the rest of the world, similarly accurate to a date authenticity of a preserved railway is largely nil.. when I saw pictures of a king on mk3’s air braked on the royal train at the Severn valley, then you truly know anything is possible.

 

Thanks guys.

 

The engine shed on the end of the platform of Sheffield Park (the station Bachmann modeled) is changing as we speak to become some big modern museum like building. I'll do it as I remembered it which is fine for most locos but not Beachy Head of course.

Mind you they started the project in the early/mid 90s (I know online data says much later, but bits were already laying around the loco yard when I visited the Bluebell at that time), I'll just imagine the project happened a lot faster than it did.

 

One thing the line never had was 3rd rail. And I do love the sounds of EMUs....

[WD0-6-0]

One thing the line never had was 3rd rail. And I do love the sounds of EMUs....

I'm sure there's a subsection of Rule 1 somewhere that says there was 3rd rail

[Wickham Green]

I'm sure there's a subsection of Rule 1 somewhere that says there was 3rd rail

....... there certainly WAS at Horsted Keynes.

[JSpencer]

....... there certainly WAS at Horsted Keynes.

Thanks but I,m doing Sheffield Park.