Michael Delamar Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Will be having one of these as Im building a line that was only freight so itll be nice to have a coach on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) A 25 in the 1990s would be wishfull thinking.... I know couldn't remember when they were withdrawn. The last ones went in 1987. Maybe a 47 or even a 37 then Edited May 8, 2014 by johnd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Will be having one of these as Im building a line that was only freight so itll be nice to have a coach on it. And a Wickham trolley and trailer in a siding as well when it's released by Bachmann. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted May 8, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 8, 2014 A 25 in the 1990s would be wishfull thinking.... True - but not in the 70s - 25038 still has a working boiler too, seen at Norton Junction. Is that saloon the correct pattern I wonder? Cheers Phil 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Is that saloon the correct pattern I wonder? 25038 resized.jpg Cheers Phil Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted May 9, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 9, 2014 Would this do 45048? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 I don't know without looking at photos. I shot quite a few and they ended up a veritable minefield when it came to roof detail in later BR days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ressaldar Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Does anyone know if the inspection saloon received the carmine and cream livery during the early BR period? I saw one in this livery on the Stainmore Summit layout at Railex NE and was wondering if it were authentic.I have now remembered that the inspection saloon on Stainmore Summit was the ex NER one not the later LMS version. I was surprised to see this in carmine and cream and again wonder if it is authentic. Hi Nerron, I've just caught up with this thread, here are a couple of pictures of the 7mm Sidelines kit for the D2046 Inspection Saloon that I built a couple of years ago an excellent kit to make. I have the Orion ex GWR Q13 to do, as well as the conversion from the H33 Restaurant coach (a JLTRT kit) into the S&T Inspection Saloon KDW150266 cheers Mike 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I've noticed that the RRP for these has gone up to £59.95 on the Bachmann website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forest2807 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I wouldn't consider paying £59.95 for a regular 'service' coach that would run in a rake, but for a one off, high quality single item that can run by itself behind a loco, and finished to a higher standard than I could achieve with a kit, I don't object too much at the price of this item. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I've noticed that the RRP for these has gone up to £59.95 on the Bachmann website. I fear in the future that Bachmann will price themselves out of the market, it's interesting to see how much the discounters will knock off the SRP !!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I was going to buy one, but not at that price! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 MLV RRP £97 Hattons £83 Difference = -13% (give or take) so this coach RRP £60 Actual SP £52 ??? still a lot for a coach but the bodyshell is more complex and has a lot of added detail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted June 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 24, 2014 I will tolerate that as a one off vehicle Liveried sample was in cabinet at GCR last weekend - has it been seen on here? Phil 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Too expensive? Try building, painting and glazing one. I know which option I'll be taking! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium it's-er Posted June 24, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 24, 2014 Phil at post 39 has scored a first with a painted sample of Bachman's LMS Inspection Saloon - this is the first time it has been seen like this .... and doesn't it look superb! Did Bachmann have anything else in their display case that hasn't been seen before, like painted samples of the LMS 1F? And anything else? Photos would be appreciated! John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Wonder whos going to be the first to paint the seats, add curtains and the tea set waiting on the table.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted June 25, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2014 This was the only newbie that caught my attention Cheers Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 25, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2014 My understanding of the comparable kits is that none of them 100% accurately represent the coach, so £60 ish for a decent RTR seems a bargain. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) They are a very long-lived vehicle and while they started out as non-recessed and recessed door handle types, the changes that have taken place particularly in the past 30 years or so have probably made no two coaches alike. As usual, photos of the coach one wants are the best bet and then go from there with adding the detail. Edited June 25, 2014 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 25, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2014 They are a very long-lived vehicle and while they started out as non-recessed and recessed door handle types, the changes that have taken place particularly in the past 30 years or so have probably made no two coaches alike. As usual, photos of the coach one wants are the best bet and then go from there with adding the detail. If only there was a superb craftsman coach builder on this forum who could post some pictures of his version of the above model?, presuming he built one of course. I have a Stevenson Carriages one in the pending tray, which, one day, with the help of various magazine articles and photographs might even get built, although the Bachy one will do nicely in the meantime. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted June 25, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2014 Too expensive? Try building, painting and glazing one. I know which option I'll be taking! It's up to the individual to conclude if they are expensive or not... I think your talking value for money (and they certainly seem to offer that) however I shall be spending my money elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted June 26, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2014 The revised price elicited a slightly sharp intake of breath. Glad it's a solo vehicle and not something I'd want a rake of........... John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed-farms Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 The revised price elicited a slightly sharp intake of breath. Glad it's a solo vehicle and not something I'd want a rake of........... John But if it was something you would want a rake of the price would probably be lower. How many people will want more than one of these? I want 2, a BR Maroon one on the list and when someone does it an Intercity one as used on the 1980's charter set. So really this is not a high volume seller so Bachmann will have to price accordingly to cover their costs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Too expensive? Try building, painting and glazing one. I know which option I'll be taking! Something can be 'too expensive' for an individual, regardless of whether it is perceived to be value for money or not. There is also an important issue of perception here. I suspect the manufacturers are hoping that they will sell a lower volume at a higher price and improve their margins in the process. I can't quibble with this as they are in the business of making money, not keeping the likes of us happy. I think it will have a different effect on me, I cannot see me reconciling myself to spending over £50 on a RTR coach as I 'perceive' that to be 'too expensive' where I might well have bought two at £35, for example. The net result is that my spending has dropped to zero rather than spending the same and getting less product for my money. I hope for the sake of the manufacturers' futures that most people are not like me! ROB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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