PETES WORKBENCH. Scratch building a LSWR 0395 class, long term project

[N15class]

This is the start of my workbench thread. I thought about waiting until I had something spectacular to do on the bench. But then that could be a long wait.

 

Index 

A few wagons and finishing a Beattie 0295 Page 1.

Dia 929 special luggage van (scratchbuild) Page 2 post 40.

Dia 1542 Brake Van (scratchbuild) Page 5 post 105.

0395 0-6-0 goods locomotive (scratchbuild). Page 9 post 220.

4 White metal open wagons, GWR, LBSCR, LSWR, and LMS. Page 17

LSWR 16' horse box Sprat and Winkle kit. Page 18

Thomas, from an ACE E2.

 

 

 

 

So we start with to very mundane Slaters wagons. First seen on my blog. Now in a I think I have finished state. I built the Pounsbury one, and the Bailey one was partly built when I got it.

 

They both had the paintwork touched up before blowing over with matt varnish. Then had the couplings, and buffers adding.

 

 

They looked OK, but every one seems to be weathering models these days so thought I would have a go. I have before now like models in a just finished state especially locos and coaches. I will have to see if this dirtying down process will go to the locos etc.

 

Well that is it for the first post, it is now down to me actually doing some of my own work. I feel it will be easier to add the odd bits I do here on a thread rather than in my blog, never seem to do enough for an update there. It is fine for the ones that get sold as the progress there is much quicker.

Edited April 30, 2022 by N15class

[georgeT]

And very nice they are too Peter, trouble is we never give wagons a thought, all we seem to do is build locos, and when they are done we find another ? but they have nothing to do, no rolling stock, so l have decided to but a dozen or so (over time) of the new O gauge Dapol wagons, saves time building them, a friend of mine has a nice collection and they are lovely, with lots of detail and opening doors, all they need is a spot of weathering.

 

l like this thread Peter much easier to keep up with your progress, looking forward to the next..

 

George..

[The Nth Degree]

I really like the dusty look of these. How about a brief overview of what you've done?

[N15class]

And very nice they are too Peter, trouble is we never give wagons a thought, all we seem to do is build locos, and when they are done we find another ? but they have nothing to do, no rolling stock, so l have decided to but a dozen or so (over time) of the new O gauge Dapol wagons, saves time building them, a friend of mine has a nice collection and they are lovely, with lots of detail and opening doors, all they need is a spot of weathering.

 

l like this thread Peter much easier to keep up with your progress, looking forward to the next..

 

George..

Hi george

I like the blog but I was missing lots of little bits that I was doing for myself. Posting the assembly of a slaters wagon is not enough I feel for a post there. Then by the time it is finished 6 months later I feel it by itself is not postable as a blog.

So I think this is the best way, and I can add an update without it feeling like it not enough to keep the reader interested. The blog will stil be used.

My overall aim with my collecting and building is to get the stock I need for a layout. Nothing big just a BLT. At the moment I am in discusions with the planning authority. There seems to be a little difference about how long it can or needs to be.

[N15class]

I really like the dusty look of these. How about a brief overview of what you've done?

Yes I will do, It will be in a couple of days. Anyway glad you liked it.

[Twright]

They look excellent

[N15class]

I used powders to weather the two wagons above, I have had these for quite some years, so please do not ask whos they are. I have only four colours but used only tth two out of the jars.

 

I used the grey one all over the body, making sure it went well into the planking groves. I then used the rusty one on the underframe working it in harder in odd places to try and get some variation. The rust was also used on the body iron work just to give a hint of rust coming through.

 

After the application I gave the body planking a good brushing off, avoiding the iron work as much as possible, ( I was using a fairly stiff brush). This I did in a downward motion, which had the effect of making it look like the dirt was washed down by the rain. I also added a very light dusing of grey to the chassis. I may add a little gloss varnish or similar around parts that would be oily.  

 

Well that was it nothing too fancy. I think the powders work very well on matt varnish, There will be experiments with gloss and satin finished later. I found it much easier than with the airbrush and dry brushing.

[N15class]

I bought some time ago a GWR H7? with a resin container and a nearly finished scratch built one. The containers will be sorted out later.

 

 

Well I was never happy with the paint work so it was given a dose of thinners. Low and behold evostick does not like it, so percent of the kit fell apart. This is when you find out the other halve has been super glued.  A bit of heat and a brute force turned the rest into a kit. 

 

 

The cleaning up took a little while, and there where parts that came to light once you tried to solder. I is impossible to solder to super glue, smells unpleasent too.

 

Here it is almost finished, there were a few odd bits that needed repairing I do not think they will show when finished, I also took the opertunatity to add compensation to one axle using a Gladiator Models etch. 

 

I made a new floor from plasticard as the original did not really like the thinners. Also I made a simple jig to line up the axles. I found this made life very easy to get the rocking axle straight. Yes I know you can buy one, but with 30+ days for the post office here to even think about delivering something from the UK, it is a no no in reality. 

 

Since taking the photos I have made and fitted the tie down rings to the side, and the floor has been fitted. I need to find some screw couplings and get them and the buffers sorted before painting.

 

I also put it on the scales, and I could not believe that it is under wieght. I use 1 gram per mm over the buffers. First whitemetal kit I have had that is a lightwieght.

 

Does anyone know the wording on the chain lockers?

Edited November 21, 2013 by N15class

[Kev_Lewis]

Hi Pete,

It's good to see that you've got a workbench thread up and running.

 

The wording on the chain lockers on the M7 should read:

To be retained for G W Containers

Chain Pocket Lids to be replaced after Chains have been removed.

[Twright]

Looks good.

[N15class]

Hi Pete,

It's good to see that you've got a workbench thread up and running.

 

The wording on the chain lockers on the M7 should read:

To be retained for G W Containers

Chain Pocket Lids to be replaced after Chains have been removed.

Thanks for the wording for the chain pockets. Now for those who know. Is the wording available in transfer? I know it is not on Fox or HMRS sheets.

Thanks in advance.

[Kev_Lewis]

Thanks for the wording for the chain pockets. Now for those who know. Is the wording available in transfer? I know it is not on Fox or HMRS sheets.

Thanks in advance.

 

It might be worth asking Parkside Dundas. They do a GWR conflat and container kit, the transfers are available separately on their website.

[N15class]

Whilst my wife has been recouperating from her surgery we stayed at the house. So I was able to keep nipping into my room and getting odd bits done. As I have missed getting the 2F and 08 to the UK intime to be sold for Christmas I decided to do something for myself. I can also post now I am at the apartment for a while. No internet at house, and I do not like posting with the phone. 

 

During a sort out a few weeks ago I found a Haywoods LMS Dia 1667 open that I bought some years ago with a load of others that were batch built and sold. This one was obviously used for any missing parts. But looking at it there was not too much missing, the coil springs for the sprung axle boxes. Three link coupling. Buffer springs and the brake levers. the replacements where found in the spares box, apart from the brake levers which I need to make from a bit of spare etch.

 

All in all it went together very well. I would say I followed the instructions, but they went missing. I did like the brakes on this one, they are unfortunatly one of the weak points of the Haywood wagon kits. Especially if they are supposed to be Morton type. These I do believe are either side, or that is the way the parts looked like they went together. There was no provison for the inside of the wagon, which may of been one to the factors of it being left when the others were built.

 

 

Here we have the etched parts that I have for the kit.

 

next up is the body brass work finished.

 

The we have got the underframe completed

 

The next show the insides made fro plasticard. I have been amiss here in the fact that I only scribed the planks and doors. I have not added any bolt detail . Not sure if this will show up, But from memory they are not as promonant as the external ones.

 

Then we come to the finished wadon prior to cleaning and painting.

 

 

Thats it for now It can now go with the other 3 wagons waiting for the colourd stuff. 

 

 

[Twright]

That look very good, well done.

[N15class]

For those who have been looking at my blog will know I have been building this for a while. My transfers arrived the other day after an epic journey from the UK lasting almost 4 months.

 

I will post on the blog when it is all completed. But as it is one of mine I will continue it on here.

 

The 4mm small Southern to me is a lovely fit on th splaher. The cab side numbers are also from that sheet. But the bunker and front buffer beam ones are from the 7mm sheet. As you can see I have left it plain black. It just needs a quick check that all is good before a coat of varnish to seal it all.

The chassis has been put together, and just needs pickups adding. It run well when attched to the fly leads. It is never going to break the sound barrier but should do a nice scale 55 ish. I have used a S&D gearbos abd a Canon motor.

I still need to cast an ingot or two, to fit inside so it will actually do more than move itself.

 

[Twright]

Excellent

[N15class]

Excellent

Thank you. I quite like it too.

[N15class]

Things are a little slow, what with Christmas coming up, my wife recovering from surgery, and having to repair the workshop as we took the pipes for another air con unit through my room save destroying the living room or kitchen.

 

I have got a selection of wagons in primer, some you have seen others are new. I must now get the air brush out and get them in their rightful liveries.

 

Lets start with the over view.

 

 

Then we have a SR van from Parkside, this will of coarse be Brown.

 

Next is one you have seen, the GWR container wagon, seen earlier.

 

Then it is the LMS open from the Haywoods kit also seen earlier.

 

Followed closely by a Parkside banana van, not sure why I have this as it is out of my timescale. Even has it's light stone coat on.

 

And at the end where it should be, a Parkside SR 25 ton brake van.

[Twright]

Excellent

[N15class]

Wishing you all a Merry Christmas, and a happy and successful 2014 model making.

[Rob Pulham]

Thanks Peter,  you too!

[N15class]

I have been progressing with the wagons. The spraying is now complete, just some hand brushing to do. Then on with the transfers and varnish. Need to look for some more matt though as I could only get one 14ml pot last time. Will try the builders merchants this time.

 

First up is them all in a row, looking quite colourful now.

 

The second is the SR standard even planked van. This just needs the brown tidying where the white got through my bad masking.

 

Next up the banana van. This just needs the vacuum and steam heat pipes painting. You can´t really see in the photo but the sole bars are painted in standard wagon brown.

 

The LMS open just needs the interior painting. I am pleased how this one has turned out.

 

The GWR container wagon is done apart from the planks and vacuum pipes. The transfers for this will have to wait until I get to the UK as I am worried about the post.

 

And, finally again is the standard 25 ton brake. This needs the interior painting and the odd bit of brown touching up. I seem to be having trouble with the lamp irons. I have a couple to repair and one to re attach. Not sure why it is happening as it is kept in its box while I am not working on it. I am pleased the way the vermillion has turn out. Both in finish and colour. 

[Twright]

Brilliant work.

[N15class]

I have painted the planking in the LMS open so transfers can now be applied. I also did the GW container wagon although this one will have to wait for it's transfers.

 

I am pleased the way both look, and lill be nice to get them finished.

 

[georgeT]

Excellent models as per usual Peter,

 

George..