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#501 PaulRhB

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 10:38

Three plans showing the evolution of the plan for Walkenried. I started with the bottom plan but decided I needed the carriage sheds to be easier to access than requiring a double shunt to get to the platforms. On the real site there isn't room to have them out beyond the station for direct access.

The middle plan put the carriage shed at the other end so they can be pulled out then dropped back into a platform. I also added a single road loco shed as with the sets stored at Walkenried they'd need room for at least two locos.

The third plan has added a second road to the loco shed as I decided right opposite the station building would be a bit smoky and not passenger friendly ;) I also added a third road to the carriage shed so I can store two service sets and the heritage set too, it also now acts as the view block for the Standard Gauge line to disappear.

I have considered cutting it right back to a simple loop and two sidings as a minimal station, a bit like Hasselfelde, but not sure how that will work as interest for the operators and it would mean adding a carriage shed to Braunlage to cover the heritage stock.

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 21:46

Increasingly moving towards simplifying this station a bit so it's not so crowded. I've run a couple of simulated sequences to try a different operation that worked quite well so now paring down the clutter ;)

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 22:06

I ended up cutting it even further back to a basic station with the modern container crane at the front. This design fits the real site better as the mainline track sits in the original place. It means that the service to Walkenried will be lighter local trains only usually but there is room to accommodate 7 coaches if they shunt release.
The loco service track is outside and now well away from the passengers so coal dust and muck aren't a problem.
So Walkenried is now more of a representation of the smaller termini like Hasselfelde or Harzgerode :)

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 03:20

Paul

 

Perhaps a future  separate module for loco and carriage works?

 

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#505 PaulRhB

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 08:00

:) Possibly ;)
Part of the rethink on this was would they have a big facility at Walkenried? So I went to the Selketal and looked at that and it appears they are just running sheds with minimal coach storage. Sets seem to be kept outside in some locations for first trains so this is my thinking for the local set. I'm going to upgrade the sidings at Braunlage with a covered shed as I decided that's the more likely base for starting trains as it's the tourist town. Walkenried is a useful connection to bring people in from the South and has the standard gauge container transfer.
In my head early trains will be biased to commuters travelling up to work in Braunlage then tourists taking trips from the resort along the scenic valley plus heading for the Brocken. So the basic passenger service will be two three coach sets shuttling between both ends of the line with a standard HSB 'mainline' set connecting Braunlage to the main system. I got to thinking why then would you put the main coach sheds at the end that can't directly access both lines? ;)
So current thinking is add a small running shed to Braunlage station and to put the main facility with storage sheds on the old box factory site directly behind the station accessed from the connection to Wurmberg.

Image from Google showing original station site as my imagining of the rebuild.
The yellow box is the real station site and where my model is based. The loop round goes north to Wurmberg and the new supermarket is on the site of the old box factory so putting the sheds behind that hides them in reality as well as in model form. EDIT: that triangle of land ,purple outline, looks perfect for the sheds ;)

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This has the advantage that I don't need to model it yet and wouldn't be part of the show scheme anyway.
Sorge is another possibility as it would be useful as an intermediate shed on the main system too if the Süd Harz reopened.

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 08:03

So if you feel like building the Wurmberg branch, Sorge connection or one of the intermediate stations? ;)
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Posted 13 October 2017 - 09:26

Would be good to build a bit of Harz NG but with a full garage I have no room at present. Still considering the big shed in the garden though.


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 09:37

Would be good to build a bit of Harz NG but with a full garage I have no room at present. Still considering the big shed in the garden though.

What you have to ask yourself is, 'is it really full?' Is there some space near the roof I could put a shelf in or put the layout in trollies in the gangway, do I really need a hallway ;)

I've amended the map to use the triangle of land behind the supermarket.
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Posted 13 October 2017 - 16:00

What you have to ask yourself is, 'is it really full?' Is there some space near the roof I could put a shelf in or put the layout in trollies in the gangway, do I really need a hallway ;)
I've amended the map to use the triangle of land behind the supermarket.


Yes that space is full. Shelves to ceiling and bike hanging up on the walls aswell. Not sure why I keep the bike really as the tyres are perishing.

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Posted Yesterday, 08:12

I can report that the Harz woz luvly! No pictures yet, as I’m still in Torquay. Sadly the day our tour did the Brocken the weather was ghastly, with near-zero visibility at the summit, and it was very cold. But the previous day weather conditions meant Northern Germany had virtually come to a stand, with our ICE terminating in suburban Hanover, having hit a fallen tree a few km earlier, so climbing the Brocken at all was good! I had high hopes for the Selketalbahn the next day, but we only got 45’ run, from Alexisbad to Gernrode, before being wafted off by coach to spend a few hours in Quedlinburg. Sigh. The following day was a free day, so Sherry and I escaped by taking the Harzquerbahn from Wernigerode to Eisfelder Talmühle and back, and that was lovely.

This, and Paul’s layout, are giving me naughty thoughts about models. I really, really need yet another prototype......
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Posted Yesterday, 08:17

We are going over for 5 days over New Year....doing a daily snow dance, for me it's at its best in the snow.
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#512 PaulRhB

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Posted Yesterday, 08:28

Glad you enjoyed it :) You can always come and play on the Süd Harz if you're over when it's at a show ;)
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