Killybegs Posted July 19, 2017 Author Share Posted July 19, 2017 OK, here are the pics .... Firstly in the down position Secondly with the flaps folded back Finally in the operating position I really must get around to replacing the dead bulbs in the overhead lighting! 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted July 19, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 19, 2017 I like that a lot, A very elegant soloution! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted July 19, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 19, 2017 So do I, and a 'sky only' hanging version may appear over Cwmdimbath. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Pretty nifty for converting the Hornby coupling rod Drive Sentinel to P4/S4 also. I dropped a bit of a gooley with my template for drilling the stress relief holes but other than that all was ok. There's also no need to thin the wheels as with the chain drive version as the frames are wider. HornbySenitiel-053-EditSm.jpg Apologies to John for dragging the topic sideways. P Porcy, The Sentinel chassis does not look like the standard Hornby. What is it? Gordon A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Porcy, The Sentinel chassis does not look like the standard Hornby. What is it? Gordon A Gordon, apart from my poor attempt at stripping of the paint, it's an absolutely bog standard Hornby rod drive chassis casting. The rod drive casting is different to the chain drive version in that its overall width is 1.25 mm wider. This pic shows the underside. If you're interested in seeing the chassis run and to save dragging the topic of on an even greater diagonal, I've posted a video of it here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/125863-project-effitt-works/&do=findComment&comment=2866250 Once again apologies to Killybegs for the diversion. P 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Killybegs Posted November 9, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2017 I see that it's been nearly four months since my last posting! Garden maintenance and lengthy holidays in Scotland have curtailed modelling somewhat. It's a good time to work on small projects so I have been building more vans (there are fifteen waiting to be painted and lettered) and have now started on three Grampus wagons using Rumney Models recently released chassis to go with the Parkside Dundas bodies I purchased some time ago. There is an amazing amount of detail on the kits but I think that the end result is worth all the time spent putting it all together. This is the current state of my van drawer. 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Holt Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 John, The Grampus does look very nice. The Rumney chassis certainly adds to the model with the fine detail and, I'm sure, excellent running properties. I've got a couple if Justin's 16 ton mineral wagon chassis to do as (for me) trial builds. I'm impressed with your van collection. I take it that's the result of quite a few years efforts? Do they have a variety of suspension systems (compensated vs sprung, etc.) and if so, do you have a preferred system for future use? Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 John, The Grampus does look very nice. The Rumney chassis certainly adds to the model with the fine detail and, I'm sure, excellent running properties. I've got a couple if Justin's 16 ton mineral wagon chassis to do as (for me) trial builds. I'm impressed with your van collection. I take it that's the result of quite a few years efforts? Do they have a variety of suspension systems (compensated vs sprung, etc.) and if so, do you have a preferred system for future use? Dave. Hi Dave, The first batch of vans were built in one go four or five years ago. Paul wanted to run Clinkerford in early BR guise at York Show and, as he only had my old pre-nationalisation stock, I had an incentive and a deadline to work to. All my vans and wagons, with a few exceptions, have the same type of suspension, namely none! Many years ago, I carried a series of tests on wagons with and without suspension. All those with suspension used MJT (or similar) rocking W irons, some were mine and others belonged to members of the Glevum group. The critical test was propelling wagons through the turnout and reverse curve into the back siding on Clinkerford. None of the rigid wagons fell off but some of those with suspension did. Using blue tack to stop any movement on the rocking W irons of those wagons that fell off, I repeated the test. None of them fell off this time. I haven't used suspension on vans or wagons since. The only exceptions are those with a Rumney Models chassis. Earlier this year I asked Justin if he had any brake gear for unfitted Grampus wagons as the Parkside Dundas kit is for the fitted version. Probably, came the reply, but if you can wait until September you can have a complete chassis. I decided I had better practice on something similar so built three of his 16T mineral chassis while I was waiting. Normally I just use the brake gear provided with the plastic kits (but tidied up a little) but as the six wagons in question will sit on the front siding at Worseter shed, I thought they could benefit from the extra detail. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrowroad Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Very nice John, keep up the good work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 ... and then there were three (with apologies to Genesis for plagiarism) Fiddly but worth it. Just for the record, there are 66 pinned joints in each chassis, that's nearly 200 pins in total. That's a lot of 0.31mm wire to cut to length and tidy up! 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ullypug Posted November 24, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2017 Worth it though. Gert lush as they say down our way! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Holt Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Is that a prile of Grampii, then? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) With the chassis finished I thought I might see if I could add a bit more detail to the bodies, principally all those chains attached to the door retaining pins. I downloaded a couple of photos from Paul Bartlett's site so that I could enlarge them. It was only then that I noticed that the end doors didn't match those on the Parkside Dundas kit. After going back to Paul's site, the reason for this became obvious. The fitted wagons (which the PD kits represent) did indeed have different end doors to the earlier unfitted variety. B****r. So it was out with the scalpel to remove the offending bits. It would have been a lot easier if I had spotted the problem earlier before fitting buffers and coupling hooks! The unfitted wagons also had two blocks of wood bolted to the ends, these are represented with bits of styrene. I have also added the retaining pins for the top panel. The bottom panel should also be recessed more but I think I can live with that. Only five more ends to do. Now, about those chains .......... Edited November 26, 2017 by Killybegs 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 "The Wonderful world of wagon variations" Lovely. about those chains .......... Any knackered 12v motors? Winding wire is smaller diameter than 3 amp fuse wire and twists to look reasonably convincing? Starting of round a suitable size drill to represent the big ring and it might give you a start. It holds it shape well and once I've got the locking bar back on this one and painted it will bend back into place to represent the effect of gravity a little better. P 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Well, that's one side of wagon all chained up. 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 John, thanks for posting about your grampuses. I have two of the older kits for the unfitted variety which come with the different ends. In due course I hope to introduce them to the Rumney underframe. I have one but at the moment it is in too safe a place for me to find it! Chris 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 Metamorphosis from Grampus to Ling. The alterations to the basic Grampus body are complete. It was only when looking closely at the photographs as I was putting on the chains that I noticed that on the Ling, although the body height is the same as the Grampus, it sits lower on the chassis, hence the need for cut outs for the brake handles. Too late now as I have the floor set flush with the bottom of the sides. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrowroad Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Metamorphosis from Grampus to Ling. The alterations to the basic Grampus body are complete. It was only when looking closely at the photographs as I was putting on the chains that I noticed that on the Ling, although the body height is the same as the Grampus, it sits lower on the chassis, hence the need for cut outs for the brake handles. Too late now as I have the floor set flush with the bottom of the sides. Ling 05.JPG Nice John - can you show us the chains on the other side please:-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 Nice John - can you show us the chains on the other side please:-) Cheeky b****r. Got any water yet!!!! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Holt Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Cheeky b****r. Got any water yet!!!! Ooooo! That's a bit below the belt. Point nicely made, though. Dave. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Cheeky b****r. Got any water yet!!!! Plenty, here in Wales, not sure about Tewkesbury though? Presumably bottled.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulgabill Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Plenty, here in Wales, not sure about Tewkesbury though? Presumably bottled.... It's ok, they've got plenty, it's just spread over a whole field. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrowroad Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Cheeky b****r. Got any water yet!!!! Tewkesbury water back on stream late saturday - I must say it was rather strange Tewkesbury having no water when it's often the other way round. Any longer without and we could have had a bit of a 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 I indulged in a little frivolity over the Christmas period while waiting for things to arrive in the post. As the railway room is a multi use space, the layout is not allowed to block the doorway. The 'bridge' has been modified a few times but now it has had a face lift. The design of the main bridge is loosely based on the structure of the Ashton swing bridge in Bristol that carried the railway line into the docks. I have always been fascinated by this part of the city's railway system, a lot of scope for modelling - two swing bridges within a couple of hundred yards of each other, interesting domestic and industrial architecture ....... However, back to the bridge. The lower level that carries the line from the fiddle yard to the loco shed and also serves a couple of warehouses, is a pure figment of my imagination. All the additions are purely cosmetic, are laminated from old mounting card and are surprisingly strong. The first shot shows Postlip Hall exiting the bridge. The second shows the full double bridge where a pannier can be seen propelling a brake van towards the shed area, probably to pick up empties from the coaling stage. 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Before the opening of the M5 I loved being driven over that bridge. You got an even better view once the concrete bye-pass had opened. Dad used to call it the upside down bridge as its decks were reversed compared to the High Level & King Eddie bridges back home. Ashton Swing Bridge 1950`s by shipscompass, on Flickr Smashing collection of pics on flickr. https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=Ashton%20swing%20bridge P 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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