Combe Martin Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Does anyone know when The Bachmann Wickham Trolley will be available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I didn't know one was being proposed. Typical I guess! I have at least one to build. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveb860 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I doubt even Bachmann will know when it will be available, but you could always ask them and report back ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I know it's still in the development process so it's not possible to give an ETA on this yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combe Martin Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 Many thanks for that Andy ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRs1962 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I attempted some research on these when Bachmann announced these, but failed to get the info. I wanted, so someone here might know? Were these used on the BR Southern region (west) and would they have been green or maroon in 1962 if they did? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted February 19, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19, 2014 Will be a useful item for all those boxfile layouts. Imagine a tunnelmouth during an engineering possession with trolley shuttling in and out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combe Martin Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 So far I've found pictures of them on the S&D dated 1962,1963 and 1966 and they're maroon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Cheese Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I must admit to looking forward to these arriving nearly as much as the recent class 40's...I only hope their gestation period is not as protracted! On a serious note it will be interesting to see how they manage to hide the drive mechanism? On a less than serious note I wonder who will be the first to commisssion a version in Loadhaul livery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 20, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20, 2014 I must admit to looking forward to these arriving nearly as much as the recent class 40's...I only hope their gestation period is not as protracted! On a serious note it will be interesting to see how they manage to hide the drive mechanism? On a less than serious note I wonder who will be the first to commisssion a version in Loadhaul livery From the little information that has been released, it appears that it will be produced with a trailer. That being the case, I would expect the mechanism to be in the trailer, hidden by load, side sheets or whatever. That would allow the powered trolley to be open, providing the opportunity to include suitable figures, tools etc. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combe Martin Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 I assumed the reason for the trailer was to provide 'pick up' over a longer wheelbase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 As those who have built the kits know too well - the biggest problem with these is traction (ie getting sufficient weight into what is an open platform) I sincerely hope that they will not be making this of plastic. The motor is an important part of the weight - if you can find one small enough to fit and to propel anything. In addition, there is a real issue with keeping these very small (and they are small - think N scale wagon) on the track let alone through points - potentially dead frog points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 They were fitted with canvas curtains which covered the entire open sides. If modelled with these closed you've basically got a small box to contain a mechanism. Perhaps not what you'd prefer but it is an option Bachmann might consider. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Many were also completely enclosed so could be considered as a small van. Many variants were produced by Wickham but the basic Type 27 is perhaps the most iconic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 20, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20, 2014 They were fitted with canvas curtains which covered the entire open sides. If modelled with these closed you've basically got a small box to contain a mechanism. Perhaps not what you'd prefer but it is an option Bachmann might consider. That's what Silver Fox Models do on theirs. I am rather hoping that Bachmann will go for one with the curtains furled and putting the drive in the trailer would allow that. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I seem to remember reading when it was announced that the motor was going to be in the trailer, so those St Trinians style chases won't be possible. Imagine Dora Bryan and suitable attired young ladies chasing your trains !!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Either way it'll make an interesting model, but the DCC aficionados might have a few issues! Regards Edited February 20, 2014 by PenrithBeacon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungrange Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Hi, I assume that all of these have now been withdrawn from mainline service and the only surving examples are on preservation lines? If so, I can't really justify one on a 21st century layout. Regards David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted February 21, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2014 As I recall, the trailers were rather small. I can't see a mechanism fitting there but it might accommodate the DCC chip. Many years ago, Bachmann produced a USA pump trolley: "Gandy Dancer", always a good one for the silly hour at the end of exhibitions. But it actually runs quite well and would fit comfortably in a Wickham with the side curtains drawn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 22, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2014 Hi, I assume that all of these have now been withdrawn from mainline service and the only surving examples are on preservation lines? If so, I can't really justify one on a 21st century layout. Regards David Correct. The nearest thing to one that you will see these days is a road-rail Land Rover and only permitted within possessions. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 22, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 22, 2014 Correct. The nearest thing to one that you will see these days is a road-rail Land Rover and only permitted within possessions. John Oxford make a suitable Land Rover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Hi, I assume that all of these have now been withdrawn from mainline service and the only surving examples are on preservation lines? If so, I can't really justify one on a 21st century layout. Regards David The Wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickham_trolley doesn't give any date for withdrawal. When did it happen? Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dickerson Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Many years ago, Bachmann produced a USA pump trolley: "Gandy Dancer", always a good one for the silly hour at the end of exhibitions. But it actually runs quite well and would fit comfortably in a Wickham with the side curtains drawn. I've been trying not to get too excited by this announcement (small chassis always useful) by expecting something based on the US Gandy Dancer or perhaps Speeder. The latter has a crane car and trolley which I assume improve pickup; hopefully we will see something more than a relivery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Correct. The nearest thing to one that you will see these days is a road-rail Land Rover and only permitted within possessions. John Weren't there some later vehicles built by someone called Permaquip? I recollect Barrie Swann building a motorised one in 00, which appeared on Tonbridge West Yard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 22, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2014 Weren't there some later vehicles built by someone called Permaquip? I recollect Barrie Swann building a motorised one in 00, which appeared on Tonbridge West Yard. I remember our PWay trying out a motorised inspection trolley with 4 seats mounted within an exposed square-tube chassis frame, not entirely unlike a bigger Ariel Atom, i.e no weather protection! Also, it looked as if it was designed only to be driven one way, presumably it needed turning in order to come back! It might have been a demonstrator as it wasn't around for long but IIRC it had a fair turn of speed! John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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