RMweb Premium MJI Posted October 16, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 16, 2014 Well I now have a small pile of Airfix 2Ds to work on while waiting on Brian at EE FO to FK BSO & FO to BFK and half a 2E TSO found one warped chassis for the scrap pile, another coach has a missing bogie, I will be losing one vehicle while chopping as 2xFO + 2xBSO = 2xBFK and 1 x 2E TSO Extreme etching frames and Laserglaze. Issues I have found. 1) Door grab handles in wrong position 2) Door handles just under 0.5mm too high. 3) End handrails and brake handrails are poor 4) Window frames not great 5) Glazing a touch too dark so a FO or TSO requires 22 holes to be drilled. It will cost approximately £20 per carriage to detail Eventual plans are 2 FKs, 2 BFKs, 4 2D TSOs, 5 2E TSOs, 1 2F FO, 2 BSOs all from Airfix 2Ds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted October 17, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 17, 2014 Well I found my old low voltage mini drill - it has a smaller chuck than my Wizard End holes and roof holes nicely drilled. Will now make a stand for the coach body to drill grab handle holes in correct height. Also may get the enthusiam back for the last 5 Lima DMU vehicles I need to do, got bored after 10. Will be drill on table and vehicle body raised to match. Found my last Ebay grab was 3 BSO and 4 FO, will give me a FK, 2 BFK, a 2E TSO and a spare FO and BSO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted October 18, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 18, 2014 Well I made a simple jig up. A few flat pieces of plastic card and the drill was the correct height for the various holes. To be FK done and the two donors Next job will besawing the BSO in half and removing part of the FO donor sides Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted October 26, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2014 Right the FK is ready for the window frames and the BFK is being assembled. photos to follow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted October 26, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2014 The FK The BSO section being sawn The first BFK side 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted October 27, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 27, 2014 The FK is to be an Eastern region one and is a model of a coach regularly in the same rake as E1883. The BFK will be Western region. The other brake section is now setting and should be fitted in the next day or so. I hope to start fitting the etched frames to the FK very soon. Unfortunately unless we have a warm Christmas everything will be primer only until the spring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted November 15, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 15, 2014 FK frames are on, they look good. BFK is being smoothed ready for frames. Done the fan(s) (need embarrased icon) Hope to be at Warley and I will be annoying a certain person there with my 2ABC bodies until I get the window frames! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted November 29, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 29, 2014 First is the FK to be E13584, this is the first in my Eastern Region 2D set, for NESW services, ths will go with a Replica BG on B4s a couple of 2D TSOs (1 ready to do) and E1883, then I need another 47 This will be a Western region BFK 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted November 30, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 30, 2014 Primer on and ............ The BFK is a mess frames off, filler on, time to sand it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Well as you can see 99% complete, just need to paint the water pipes, a little bit of red touchup and a few transfers bar1.JPG bar2.JPG So how many models of this unique coach are there out there? I've got one and the Booth Car, neither are finished yet and may well be rebuilt using an alternate base coach. Currently they are built around Mainline Mk1's. Cheers Shane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted April 6, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 6, 2015 Triedput my new airbrush today, Iwata Clogged big time! Managed 3 roofs 2B and 2C Grey on 3 2Ds and....... The paint shows every defect, frames slightly not level, so all 3 2Ds need remedial work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub39h Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 My two Mark 2C coaches 2c1.JPG The TSO with new toilets 2c2.JPG A close up 2c3.JPG The BSO, just a little sanding and another coat of primer, then frame time Hurry up EE pelase Where did you get the roof details, toilet window and vents from please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted April 9, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 9, 2015 Where did you get the roof details, toilet window and vents from please? Vents MJT and Southern Pride Windows a chap who converted Bachman 2As to 2Cs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub39h Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Do you know if they're available to purchase? I've decided I want to bash some Lima Mk2Bs and those would be ideal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted April 9, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 9, 2015 Do you know if they're available to purchase? I've decided I want to bash some Lima Mk2Bs and those would be ideal. No, I had the last 3 But Extreme Etchings are supposed to be doing some mark 2 frames so ask them next week when they are back from their time off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub39h Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) No, I had the last 3 But Extreme Etchings are supposed to be doing some mark 2 frames so ask them next week when they are back from their time off Lol my concern there is price - a lot of their detailing parts are more expensive than the coaches they'll be used on! If I was convinced I could get a good result I wouldn't mind the cost so much, but this will be my first attempt at coach conversions, so the cheaper the better. Edited April 9, 2015 by sub39h Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted April 10, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 10, 2015 Lol my concern there is price - a lot of their detailing parts are more expensive than the coaches they'll be used on! If I was convinced I could get a good result I wouldn't mind the cost so much, but this will be my first attempt at coach conversions, so the cheaper the better. I am spending about £20 per 2D to upgrade them. There are no other 2D models so to me it is worth it. 2B Lima only so you have to spend to make them look good, possible to cut and shut Mk2 Bachmanns, but frames on Lima should do. There are 3 families of Mark 2s Early Wrap round doors Aircons Not including conversions such as DBSO there are I think 37 Mark 2 designs. Doubled up 2C due to toilets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub39h Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Thanks, I've been doing a lot of reading about the Mk2s and have invested in Michael Harris' book on the subject. (Stupidly it cost less for me to get a copy of that book from Amazon Germany including postage than it did to get it from Amazon UK!) I think I've managed to get around most of the detail differences behind this supposedly "standard" design! I've stockpiled a few cheap Bachmann Mk2 brake coaches and FKs which are going to lend their roofs and chassis (suitably altered) to the Lima coaches. I'm planning on trimming down the extra height at the bottom of the Lima body, removing the paint guide line on the body and then attaching the Bachmann chassis. The Bachmann roof goes straight on once they're trimmed by about 2mm at either end. I'll probably use as much of the Bachmann glazing as I can as well. Any left over I was planning on using SE Finecast glazing which seems acceptable to me based on photos I've seen. As I mentioned this is all very experimental so the less money I can spend the better. If I can get a convincing result I may consider Shawplan parts in the future. No doubt they are going to be high quality, but you pay for that quality! It would be wasted on before I got some practice in first. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted April 13, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 13, 2015 Thanks, I've been doing a lot of reading about the Mk2s and have invested in Michael Harris' book on the subject. (Stupidly it cost less for me to get a copy of that book from Amazon Germany including postage than it did to get it from Amazon UK!) I think I've managed to get around most of the detail differences behind this supposedly "standard" design! I've stockpiled a few cheap Bachmann Mk2 brake coaches and FKs which are going to lend their roofs and chassis (suitably altered) to the Lima coaches. I'm planning on trimming down the extra height at the bottom of the Lima body, removing the paint guide line on the body and then attaching the Bachmann chassis. The Bachmann roof goes straight on once they're trimmed by about 2mm at either end. I'll probably use as much of the Bachmann glazing as I can as well. Any left over I was planning on using SE Finecast glazing which seems acceptable to me based on photos I've seen. As I mentioned this is all very experimental so the less money I can spend the better. If I can get a convincing result I may consider Shawplan parts in the future. No doubt they are going to be high quality, but you pay for that quality! It would be wasted on before I got some practice in first. If you have the Bachmann vehicles, probably better chopping them into 2B or 2C rather than use Lima. Main differences is doors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted April 15, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 15, 2015 EE are doing packs for Hornby TSO and BFK at the moment. Ordered a few as a trial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted April 18, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 18, 2015 Well I now have my 2Z-B Widow frames, the Lima window apertures are much smaller so will require a good filing. Hope to have some frames on by tomorrow Doing my 2C BSO first, then a 2B TSO If good I will order enough for the rest of my Lima 2B fleet. Remember 2Z-B Widow frames Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted April 19, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 19, 2015 Done one side of filing, still have to finish the other before sticking the frames on, hope to manage it sometime mid week 2C BSO first, 2B TSO next Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub39h Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Looking forward to seeing the results :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted April 25, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 25, 2015 Extreme Etchings 2_ABC frames, note the seperate sliding vents Brake frames What does it look like? Dry fit The previous ones were too big, should I identify the seller? Too much work to cut down, Ebay them I think First two fitted, ready for super glue 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted April 25, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 25, 2015 Those EE frames are excellent, well detailed, much better than those wrong sized ones! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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