allan downes Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Recently -as one cannot help but notice ! - I have been hammering away at a Tudor High Street scene and quite frankly got somewhat carried away with it ! Anyway gentlemen it got me to thinking - how about a small competition where the entrants have a go at producing a Tudor style building ? It wouldn't need to be anything elaborate, just a simple cottage, a house, shop, pub maybe and to start things off here is the kind of thing that might be suitable but it doesn't have to be to the same extent - just part of it. So, I'll leave you with the picture and await your feedback. Cheers. Allan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted April 30, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 30, 2014 I have no time to do this, they are not a common style of building in Cornwall, I have no intention of building a layout that would feature a tudor building, so of course I'm in... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted May 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2014 Oh, and no prizes for guessing the function of the building I'm intending to make ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium The White Rabbit Posted May 1, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2014 I'm tempted... but what sort of closing date did you have in mind and any other conditions/restrictions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Oh, and no prizes for guessing the function of the building I'm intending to make ! Are you going to tell us, or keep it privy to yourself? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 I'm tempted... but what sort of closing date did you have in mind and any other conditions/restrictions? How about a three month deadline ? Conditions/restrictions? None really as long as it's scratchbuilt ( windows, doors, cladding etc, an exception ) and not a kit modified or kit bashed. Any design, your own, computer generated, prototype, other. Cheers. Allan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Birks Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Can I cheat and submit one I did earlier. I don't have time to make another one. Stuart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Can I cheat and submit one I did earlier. I don't have time to make another one. Stuart I don't see why not Stuart if indeed you built it and I do believe I've spotted a very strong contender for first place already ! Absolutely superb workmanship and this is going to be a very hard act to follow. Cheers. Allan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Train Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Hi Folks, looking forward to seeing the contenders models, Stewart Birks, have seen your model before and an excellent model it is too :-) cheers Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgundy Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Probably not eligible for Alan's competition, as this building was completed a couple of months ago. It is clearly not one of those posh, architect-designed jobs from Alan's High Street, and I rather doubt that it is Tudor. However, it is evidently timber framed, under the layer of rendering, with the floors jettied out over the ones below. The story was written up in this thread and the building now occupies its site in Vintner's Yard a corner of Sarf Lunnon that does not even aspire to being celebrated by John Betjeman.The main structure uses foamboard, which has the disadvantage (for this purpose) of cutting and standing very square. This type of building really ought to have the walls leaning in at least a couple of different directions and to have timbering that is not perfectly straight. Can anyone suggest how to cut not-quite-straight lines please?Best wishesEric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 Can anyone suggest how to cut not-quite-straight lines please? Best wishes Eric Hi Eric. That's a really wonderful building, well made, atmospheric, full of character but I think we might be hard pressed to list it as 'Tudor' ! Anyway, the best way to cut irregular lines is to cut them freehand and for ultra irregular try it after a pint or two ! The timber work on this building was cut freehand and though it still required a lot of work, cutting freehand is a lot faster than useing a straight edge. Cheers. Allan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgundy Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Hi Eric. Anyway, the best way to cut irregular lines is to cut them freehand and for ultra irregular try it after a pint or two ! The timber work on this building was cut freehand and though it still required a lot of work, cutting freehand is a lot faster than useing a straight edge. Cheers. Allan. post-18579-0-78078500-1368381179_thumb.jpg Alan Thank you. Maybe a couple of glasses of vin rouge would have the right effect and be appropriate to Vintner's Yard? Not sure about any resulting blood stains though..... Best wishes Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted May 5, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 5, 2014 Hi Allan, I'll agree with everything Stubby said, but with 3 months to do it in, and not having done Tudor since building a half timber engine shed at school (which is still there three decades on!), I'll give it a go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted May 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 6, 2014 Probably not eligible for Alan's competition, as this building was completed a couple of months ago. It is clearly not one of those posh, architect-designed jobs from Alan's High Street, and I rather doubt that it is Tudor. However, it is evidently timber framed, under the layer of rendering, with the floors jettied out over the ones below. post-9472-0-60179900-13886962351.jpg The story was written up in this thread and the building now occupies its site in Vintner's Yard a corner of Sarf Lunnon that does not even aspire to being celebrated by John Betjeman. The main structure uses foamboard, which has the disadvantage (for this purpose) of cutting and standing very square. This type of building really ought to have the walls leaning in at least a couple of different directions and to have timbering that is not perfectly straight. Can anyone suggest how to cut not-quite-straight lines please? Best wishes Eric Don't forget that many Tudor buildings received 'new' frontages in the Georgian and Victorian periods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 In which case Phil, your magnificent building qualifies ! Cheers. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted May 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 7, 2014 I've been looking at beams, tiles, windows, bricks and rendering until my eyes have lost all focus. I needed a real building because I'm not great at making something like this up, and unfortunately there aren't any Tudor buildings that I know of in Wainfleet. There was this one absolutely covered in shells out in the marshes, but it's long gone. So after realising the world's my lobster, I looked at, and turning down The George near Bath because it's just too big, The George Inn by Shaun Matthews Photography, on Flickr and a couple of others, I'm going to give this one a go. It's the Market Hall in the Weald and Downland Museum and there seems to be a lot of good photos of it from all angles. Market Hall and Upper Hall by cazjane97, on Flickr I know I'm known on here for using the computerized cutter, but I don't think it's going to get used on this building although, I might be known as the squinter by the time I've done all of those bricks and tiles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted May 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 7, 2014 I like your choice of building, but I was hoping to see how good the cutter would be in making a Tudor building - to be able to cut both the frames and the infill from contrasting sheets of plasticard or card would be quite interesting. Best of luck with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted May 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 7, 2014 Thanks very much. If I was to use plasticard then it would be great for engraving the bricks and the wooden frame into the card. Another use could be to use photographs to create each side of the building (inside and out), then print out the brick panels onto cream textured paper (writing paper?), then cut each panel out and glue onto de-papered foamboard. I've been learning that brick infills were sometimes proud of the surrounding frame, so this could work. The woodwork, around the bricks at least, could be a thin balsa or stirrer veneer, scribed foamboard or even cut plasticard I suppose - the latter could definitely by done using the cutter, but not the foamboard. There are quite a few wargame sites that seem to have a lot of ideas for timbered buildings. A different style to railway modelling, but they do look interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted May 7, 2014 Author Share Posted May 7, 2014 Hi JCL. If you want to use a machine to cut out all the timber work then by all means do so as I consider being able to use a cutter is a skill in itself - after all, I don't make windows, a guy called Chemical Etching does ! Anyway, I would be more than interested just to see how a cutter deals with a Tudor building. Also that large Tudor pub - why not shorten it and I would say that the other little building - market hall is it ? - with it's herringbone brickwork would make a superb model so why not have a shot at that ? Cheers. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
outcastjack Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 I dare someone to build this!I shall have a punt at something rather less grand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweven Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 I too have been trying to justify building a Tudor building, which I think I might just achieve in 3 months. However there are no Tudor buildings in the close vicinity of my layout, but quite a few down the road at Alcester. I think the cutter would do a good (and quick) job if all the woodwork was cut from a single sheet of black card, but the prototype I have my eye on has very mangled, cracked, warped timbers and I am not sure card will result in the right "wood" like texture? I am tending towards using wooden stirrers... Or maybe I just need some Colron dye.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 I dare someone to build this! I shall have a punt at something rather less grand Will this do ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 My take on a timber framed build, the pub on Ashwood Basin, 7mm scale built from card and skinned with casting plaster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 Absolutely stunning, look's like we've got a winner already !!! Awesome work Mike. Cheers. Allan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovex Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Will this do ? post-18579-0-07690500-1367829838.jpgpost-18579-0-29713500-1366983179_thumb.jpg I'll think we'll have to disqualify this one, looks more late medieval than Tudor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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