Fat Controller Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Hello everyone Former WW2 warflat bogie wagon used carry heavy steel in British steel work as internal user ? Thank you There were a few:- http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/alliedsteelwire/h16c82b56#h16c82b56 has been rather drastically modified as a scrap carrier. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/workingtonsteel/hcab27ad#hcab27ad http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/bscshelton/h4f50fb0c#h4f50fb0c http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/bsclackenby/h1a4d51ff#h1a4d51ff I hope these links are of use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 (edited) Hello everyone Former WW2 warflat bogie wagon used carry heavy steel in British steel work as internal user ? Thank you Yes, There are many! Look at this photo collection. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/modawarflatpfb If you go past the reasonably modern new build versions you'll see them in use at places such as Scunthorpe, Shelton, Lackenby, Workington. Some have arrived from MoD use at Tata Steel Aldwarke, Rotherham during 2015. These are really useful model [biased, I suggested the model to Bachmann years ago!] Paul Edited June 19, 2017 by hmrspaul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Yes, There are many! Look at this photo collection. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/modawarflatpfb If you go past the reasonably modern new build versions you'll see them in use at places such as Scunthorpe, Shelton, Lackenby, Workington. Some have arrived from MoD use at Tata Steel Aldwarke, Rotherham during 2015. These are really useful model [biased, I suggested the model to Bachmann years ago!] Paul Thereby doing us all a good turn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I have some photos of warflats at Swindon Works with the frames of '9F' 2-10-0s on them. I think the frames were cut at Doncaster and then brought to Swindon for assembly. (CJL) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Bachmann has released CADs of the Cromwell tanks that will act as loads. Looking good, and I like the magnets to hold them on board a Warwell. It seems that both models have the same hull, D type, which all current scale plastic/Diecast models of this tank use. The difference being limited to the turret with or without side storage boxes. Both are 75mm gunned versions, However they could do 105mm later and a Centeur. A Comet would open up the possibility of an F type Cromwell. I wonder if Bachmann will ever sell these separately? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Bachmann has released CADs of the Cromwell tanks that will act as loads. Looking good, and I like the magnets to hold them on board a Warwell. It seems that both models have the same hull, D type, which all current scale plastic/Diecast models of this tank use. The difference being limited to the turret with or without side storage boxes. Both are 75mm gunned versions, However they could do 105mm later and a Centeur. A Comet would open up the possibility of an F type Cromwell. I wonder if Bachmann will ever sell these separately? My thought is the other way if I buy MoD ones will someone buy the vehicles as I don't want them! Mark Saunders 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 9, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9, 2017 I'm sure they will if anyone's modelling loading or unloading depots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted July 9, 2017 Administrators Share Posted July 9, 2017 My thought is the other way if I buy MoD ones will someone buy the vehicles as I don't want them! Mark Saunders JUdging by the efforts Bachmann are going to to produce an authentic model, including several variations, I suspect there will be quite a demand for spare tanks on a popular auction site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium M.I.B Posted July 11, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 11, 2017 JUdging by the efforts Bachmann are going to to produce an authentic model, including several variations, I suspect there will be quite a demand for spare tanks on a popular auction site. They are already selling that bit faster and for a little more ££. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Colour view of part of one, with some sort of Royal Navy load, Shap November 1967. https://www.flickr.com/photos/95560788@N08/25583646814/in/dateposted/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Colour view of part of one, with some sort of Royal Navy load, Shap November 1967. https://www.flickr.com/photos/95560788@N08/25583646814/in/dateposted/ Looks like a narrow gauge wagon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Three images here at Eastleigh Diesel Depot Open Day, 5 May 1974, might be of interest: https://www.flickr.com/photos/31890193@N08/sets/72157658589897600 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor-onGRT4 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 A typical war transport train, not sure if that are warflats with the tanks, Churchill tanks? , old picture low resolution , from the old 1945 book. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Almost certainly Warflats; the tanks look very much like Churchills. The vehicles carrying the crews are interesting; a Gresley brake, but what's the antediluvian vehicle behind? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Almost certainly Warflats; the tanks look very much like Churchills. The vehicles carrying the crews are interesting; a Gresley brake, but what's the antediluvian vehicle behind? Guess which coach was for the officers? Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macketty Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 A typical war transport train, not sure if that are warflats with the tanks, Churchill tanks? , old picture low resolution , from the old 1945 book. Out of interest, does the book say where the photo was taken? Comparing to some images I have, it looks like Berkhamsted? Ta. Mac. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Out of interest, does the book say where the photo was taken? Comparing to some images I have, it looks like Berkhamsted? Ta. Mac. If there were a caption, it would be along the lines of 'somewhere in the Home Counties'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Almost certainly Warflats; the tanks look very much like Churchills. The vehicles carrying the crews are interesting; a Gresley brake, but what's the antediluvian vehicle behind? The antediluvian - though not necessarily significantly less comfortable than a Gresley - vehicle has a Great Central look to it : most other railways put a clerestory* on an arc roof but this looks like a semi-elliptical or three-centre shape. IF it's a Composite ( as it appears ) and IF the Gresley brake is only Third class the officers may be luxuriating in rather faded comfort !!?! * That's pronounced 'clear-story' NOT 'cle-rest-ory' - before anyone starts arguing ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Out of interest, does the book say where the photo was taken? Comparing to some images I have, it looks like Berkhamsted? Ta. Mac. Not impossible that it's a Henry Casserley photo if it IS Berkhamsted ....... so the answer might be yours for a mere twenty quid ! : https://www.waterstones.com/book/steaming-through-berkhamsted/h-c-casserley/9780954383824 .... there should be a photo or two in the right direction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macketty Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Not impossible that it's a Henry Casserley photo if it IS Berkhamsted ....... so the answer might be yours for a mere twenty quid ! : https://www.waterstones.com/book/steaming-through-berkhamsted/h-c-casserley/9780954383824 .... there should be a photo or two in the right direction. Thanks for that Wickham. I knew the Casserley family slightly and was lucky enough to get some of Henry's duplicate prints when the family were thinning out the archive some years ago. There are indeed some shots taken from almost exactly the same spot on the northbound slow platform in the small collection I have and that was what made me think the Tank train image was one of his also. Always had a hankering to build a layout based on Berkhamsted, so anything additional background info like the above is always interesting. Thanks. Mac. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Thanks for that Wickham. I knew the Casserley family slightly and was lucky enough to get some of Henry's duplicate prints when the family were thinning out the archive some years ago. There are indeed some shots taken from almost exactly the same spot on the northbound slow platform in the small collection I have and that was what made me think the Tank train image was one of his also. Always had a hankering to build a layout based on Berkhamsted, so anything additional background info like the above is always interesting. Thanks. Mac. Occurred to me that H.C.C. might have been serving King & Country on some distant shore at this time - but ever-reliable ( ??!? ) Wikipedia reckons he "was in military service from 1942–1944, mostly based in the Army stores section at Bicester" .............. so a trip home to Berkhamsted on ( weekend ? ) leave would have been a cinch ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Hamlin Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Anybody know when these beauties are going to be available? Seems ages since I first saw the decorated samples with Cromwell tanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 (edited) A typical war transport train, not sure if that are warflats with the tanks, Churchill tanks? , old picture low resolution , from the old 1945 book. I've been a bit slow on picking up on this thread, but there is a bit of film of this train to be found on the DVD "Britain's Railways, the home front war years 1941 to 1943 (SFE, 2013)". Date is c 1942. The train is said to be at Harpenden Central and is being pulled by ex LNWR G1 1783 renumbered 9169 by the LMS and rebuilt to G2A in 1939. The train carried 9 Churchill tanks on Warflats. (I think they were Mk I's as they seem to have 2pdr guns and a 3" howitzer in the hull, but I'm no expert on them.) At the rear of the train there was another ancient brake 3rd, see clip attached which I hope one of you experts can identify! (Edited to add a bit about the Churchill tanks, courtesy of the Wikipedia article) Edited June 19, 2018 by eastglosmog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium stephennicholson Posted June 28, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2018 Anybody know when these beauties are going to be available? Seems ages since I first saw the decorated samples with Cromwell tanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium stephennicholson Posted June 28, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2018 According to Bachmann at bluebell last weekend the wagons are ready, but there is delay getting the tanks finished According to Bachmann at bluebell last weekend the wagons are ready, but there is delay getting the tanks finished According to Bachmann at bluebell last weekend the wagons are ready, but there is delay getting the tanks finished Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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