Nile's kitbuilding bench - Midland 1377

[Compound2632]

The brake shaft needs two supports, on wooden frames you can put both on one sides one either side of timber. The push rods are then angled slightly to get them closer to the inner vee. This is not easy to do on a steel frame, they either have the second near the middle of the wagon or on the other side.

 

Nevertheless, the Great Western managed - all those iron or steel framed 4-plank opens and iron minks were built with single-sided brakes with a V-hanger on the rear face of the solebar channel and a single upright set further behind - I'm not sure how this was supported.

[Guy Rixon]

The inner support for the brake shaft in a GWR wagon is presumably attached to a middle longitudinal. There isn't much else in that part of the frame to carry it.

[Compound2632]

The inner support for the brake shaft in a GWR wagon is presumably attached to a middle longitudinal. There isn't much else in that part of the frame to carry it.

 

I remembered where I'd seen a drawing of an iron mink - in the gunpowder van chapter of LNWR Wagons Vol. 2. Not a GA as it claims but a Mike (?) Lloyd drawing from the HMRS collection. Unlike a wooden underframe that has two middle bearers (transverse timbers) the iron mink has an extra one on the transverse centre line; the inner support for the brake shaft is supported oof this - so it is about half-way between the solebar and the middle longitudinal.

 

The LNWR iron mink clone gunpowder van has V-hangers in front and behind the solebar and dispenses with the vertical support. The two V-hangers are separated by the width of the bottom flange of the solebar, which is probably about the same as the tickness of a wooden solebar (4 1/2").

[Nile]

Work has started on the last of my SECR kits, five ballast wagons.

 

Edited November 24, 2022 by Nile

[Compound2632]

Ballast wagons are not solitary creatures. What use is one wagonload of ballast?

[Nile]

The five wagons are basically finished, but I'd like to make some ballast loads for them. Until then this is the easiest way of getting them all in one photo.

 

 

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removed double photo

[Jack P]

Neil,

 

I think the most astounding thing about your modelling is the consistent quality, as exhibited by the picture above. 

 

In awe of your work as always!

 

Regards

[Nile]

And now for a load of ballast. Start with some pink insulation foam (spaceboard) and cut/file it to shape. In the top middle I've inserted a piece of paper clip, this will allow the load to be lifted out by a magnet.

 

 

Cover with PVA and sprinkle ballast over it. This is Woodland Scenics fine buff.

 

 

Allow to dry overnight and then insert into wagon.

 

 

Then repeat four times.

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[Nile]

A new P just arrived from Hatton's, so I couldn't resist doing this.

 

Edited November 24, 2022 by Nile

[Nile]

With another four loads finished I made up a small ballast train.

 

 

Edited November 24, 2022 by Nile

[Compound2632]

You just need to add the bolster pair with a load of 30ft rails. Did the SECR have any specialised sleeper wagons or would ordinary opens have been pressed into use?

[Buhar]

The lettering on those (lovely) ballast wagons looks like a poor hand for Scrabble!

[Nile]

Well, no one has asked what the SEPWDCR is yet. There should be dots after the PWD letters, according to the drawing. But as I've not seen photographic evidence I really can't be @rsed with that.

Edited May 22, 2018 by Nile

[N15class]

Well, no one has asked what the SEPWDCR is yet. There should be dots after the PWD letters, according to the drawing. But as I've not seen photographic evidence I really can't be @rsed with that.

I first thought it was Welsh for ballast, but then I realised there's too many vowels!!

[Nile]

Well that's all the SECR kits I had stashed away built. Until I get some more it's time for something a bit different, modern image (relatively speaking for me). The BR built Palbrick wagon is something that has interested me, but lack of available kits has made acquiring one a bit difficult. So when I found a body for one on Shapeways I thought I would give it a try.

This is the body as it comes printed in FUD before cleaning.

 

 

After cleaning in IPA I noticed the sides were bending in slightly. To correct this I inserted a piece of wood to push then out slightly, and left it like this for a few days.

 

 

The body was designed to sit on a Parkside PA09 chassis, which fits it perfectly. I've used superglue to join the two.

 

 

Right way up on its wheels, all is level and square.

 

Edited November 13, 2022 by Nile

[Fat Controller]

Well that's all the SECR kits I had stashed away built. Until I get some more it's time for something a bit different, modern image (relatively speaking for me). The BR built Palbrick wagon is something that has interested me, but lack of available kits has made acquiring one a bit difficult. So when I found a body for one on Shapeways I thought I would give it a try.

This is the body as it comes printed in FUD before cleaning.

01.JPG

 

After cleaning in IPA I noticed the sides were bending in slightly. To correct this I inserted a piece of wood to push then out slightly, and left it like this for a few days.

02.JPG

 

The body was designed to sit on a Parkside PA09 chassis, which fits it perfectly. I've used superglue to join the two.

03.JPG

 

Right way up on its wheels, all is level and square.

04.JPG

You're probably aware, but ,normally, each of the removable side panels had a couple of lengths of old vacuum hose fixed to it (at about 45 degrees to the vertical) to limit sideways movement of the load. It wasn't unknown for the panels to be replaced inside out after the wagons had been emptied.

[meld]

Nile Wrote :- "The BR built Palbrick wagon is something that has interested me, but lack of available kits has made acquiring one a bit difficult. So when I found a body for one on Shapeways I thought I would give it a try."

 

Any chance of a link to the Shapeways shop please, I can only find a N gauge 3 pack on there.

 

Many Thanks

 

Meld.

[Nile]

https://www.shapeways.com/product/WJYEXNGQ6/palbrick-b-oo-scale?optionId=64994687&li=ostatus

[cctransuk]

https://www.shapeways.com/product/WJYEXNGQ6/palbrick-b-oo-scale?optionId=64994687&li=ostatus

 

A bit odd, that - it's certainly there, but it doesn't appear if you click on the Rail 3D Prints 'OO Scale Models' tab.

 

I wonder what else is available for 4mm. scale that isn't listed?

 

As to the PALBRICK, the triangular end braces would be best replaced with thinner material.

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

[John Tomlinson]

As this has arisen, I wonder if I could digress a little and ask how you actually buy something on Shapeways, and is it possible to use Paypal?

 

Many thanks,

 

John.

[meld]

Many Thanks Nile

 

Meld

[hmrspaul]

You're probably aware, but ,normally, each of the removable side panels had a couple of lengths of old vacuum hose fixed to it (at about 45 degrees to the vertical) to limit sideways movement of the load. It wasn't unknown for the panels to be replaced inside out after the wagons had been emptied.

That was only for one specialist use in Scotland. We've discussed elsewhere on here.

 

What diagram does the model represent?

 

Paul

[Nile]

I think it's meant to be a Palbrick B diag. 1/024, that's what I'm aiming for anyway.

 

Buying from Shapeways should be like buying from any other online supplier, I don't think you have to register with then as I've had several orders with the buyer listed as 'guest'. They use Paypal as their main payment method.

[Steadfast]

Out of interest, what does the IPA achieve in the FUD cleanup process? It's not a method I've seen before. Something I'm tempted to try on my next bits to cleanup

 

Jo

[Nile]

The soaking in IPA (others may use different chemicals) is to remove any support material left on the model. Even traces of it will ruin a paint finish.