RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted June 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 2, 2014 Because they sell and make money, which is why Heljan and others are making model trains. Deltic47 disagrees with my post. I have no problem if someone disagrees with my opinion, but in this case I thought I was posting facts. Facts you might or might not like. Deltic which part of my post are you disagreeing with? Are you saying that the one off prototypes do not sell? or are you saying that they do not make money? or are you saying that making money is not the reasons why Heljan and others make model trains? Just curious - that's all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic17 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Deltic47 disagrees with my post. I have no problem if someone disagrees with my opinion, but in this case I thought I was posting facts. Facts you might or might not like. Deltic which part of my post are you disagreeing with? Are you saying that the one off prototypes do not sell? or are you saying that they do not make money? or are you saying that making money is not the reasons why Heljan and others make model trains? Just curious - that's all ================================================================================== All I am saying is:- As this is the first one off prototype (IN 7MM) from Heljan the full 'facts' that they sell really well don't exist yet - what applies in the land of 4mm doesn't necessarily apply to 7mm. They should make money but I believe they would be much better off producing the more popular diesel classes first to maximise returns which should be the main objective of Heljan and others when making models. Deltic17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted June 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 2, 2014 Thanks Deltic. Its more informative when you express a valid opinion rather than a simple "Disagree" Lets wait and see how it sells. Meanwhile, Back to 4mm modelling for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic17 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Thanks Deltic. Its more informative when you express a valid opinion rather than a simple "Disagree" Thanks - I had actually already stated my opinion in #24 - and then later popped a few agrees and disagrees here and there (one of which was on yours) at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) It's happening up take seems to be high, it's not in place of more popular classes. The ones announced will go ahead (warship, 60, 40, 25, peak ) I think some non 7mm modellers will want one just for the sake of it along with the collectors especially if the other on offs go ahead. One other thing Heljan have never done a re run of a loco yet so every loco produced has been a one off. Personally I think this might bring more people in to 7mm because once you've bought one thats usually all it takes and your hooked. I've had some one order one and it's going to be there first 7mm loco and I doubt it will be the last!!! Edited June 3, 2014 by steve fay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Is that Swindon, or Brush Loughborough? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Is that Swindon, or Brush Loughborough? I did wonder if it was the 4mm model, but I don't think the grilles are that fine. My money's on Loughborough as I doubt it reached Swindon in that livery. Idle speculation I know, John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 I don't think it's swindon, how ever she was trialled on the western in 1962 and was used With the dynomometer car so she could have made it into Swindon works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 838rapid Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 That's defiantly not a Swindon Works building behind,my vote is for Brush at Loughborough .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobster Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I would say defiantly Brush at Loughborough - If you look at old/new photo's of the main building at Brush, you can see the 3 brickwork lines (for want of a better word) on the building at Loughborough. Link attached below to show this brickwork during a door widening at Brush. http://www.penwoodconstruction.co.uk/industrial.html Cheers, Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwr Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Does anyone make an etched nameplate for this - I guess Heljan will print theirs on Paul R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) Guilplates do, Jeff posted some pictures up on WT maybe he can post them on here as well. They look very nice, as I'm having her whilst on the WR in 62 it will be with the original transfer but a nice set of the makers plates will be ordered. Edited June 7, 2014 by steve fay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 (edited) Here they are: They need a bit of tidying with file, wet-or-dry etc, but to me, look the part, and the worksplates are fully legible. "Brush Traction. No.280 1961 England" Edited June 8, 2014 by JeffP 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I wouldn't get too excited yet, no other Heljan stockists have confirmed it's going ahead let alone Kestrel as well my guess is 2017 if it happens at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 (edited) I have!! Falcon that is not sure about Kestrel yet. Edited June 9, 2014 by steve fay 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Don't build up you're hopes it might just be smoke and mirrors from tower models me thinks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 It's not I'm a Heljan stockist and I sought clarification from Heljan before starting this thread. Yes Towers announcement was a few months early. As for Kestrel it's being looked at but no decision has been made. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Ze next person who says it's not going ahead vill be shot........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Hope it does I want one, would like Kestrel too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Lion is another of my faves, saw it on the Yorkshire Pullman at Doncaster circa 1962? Maybe 1963. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 I've got a picture of it on Ranelagh bridge in 62 so id have one straight away. If they do go down the road of doing the rest of the one offs I hope they look at this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianwales Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Hi all If they do them in the same order as they did in 4mm it would be Falcon, Kestrel, Lion then DP2 if i remember the order correctly, but, it will probably depend on how well Falcon sells. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR_Blue_1986 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Whilst announcing ever more locos, a HST would be different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRUNFOS Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 My favourite loco, must have a blue one, this could send me over to the darkside!!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRUNFOS Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Will have to find a bigger shelf to upsize! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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