RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted February 2, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2010 Just come across this beast at work, but we all are wondering what it looks like. Seems to be based on a JZA Rail Delivery Clamp wagon, has a dirty great fan on it with a diesel engine to power it. It's used to provide forced ventillation when working in tunnels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Just come across this beast at work, but we all are wondering what it looks like. Seems to be based on a JZA Rail Delivery Clamp wagon, has a dirty great fan on it with a diesel engine to power it. It's used to provide forced ventillation when working in tunnels Must be a different one to the old wagon which IIRC was 923157 - not sure what the prefix was though. The tunnel wagonb was used for just that blowing fumes along the tunnel. I think 923157 was a bogie bolster C Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40044 Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 There is one still knocking about, based on a Lowmac. ADE 901720 is it's number and it tends to work with a short rake of YEAs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 There is one still knocking about, based on a Lowmac. ADE 901720 is it's number and it tends to work with a short rake of YEAs. Bloody ell. That must be the last Prenat wagon in service on the network then ? Unless anyone knows different ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Photos of 901720 at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Balfour_Beatty_Rail_Plant_ZSB_design_code_ZS507C.jpg and http://www.ontrackplant.com/photo/901720 which doesn't look much like a Lowmac. Is that coaching stock suspension? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Photos of 901720 at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Balfour_Beatty_Rail_Plant_ZSB_design_code_ZS507C.jpg and http://www.ontrackplant.com/photo/901720 which doesn't look much like a Lowmac. Is that coaching stock suspension? An odd underfame- looks like a former parcels van or similar to me. There was another one of these on a Grampus underframe, which Paul Wade modelled on Tonbridge West yard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted February 3, 2010 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2010 Well, a collegue is making a trip to Sunny Donny tomorrow and will take some photos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hump Shunter Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 One on the South Eastern was based in a Rudd Wagon, so was the 'Rudd Fan', I'll post a picture later. Do these count as 'self propelled' vehicles ie if you left the brake off would the fan blow the wagon along ??? ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Another photo at http://richardjones8646.fotopic.net/p46634838.html is it just me or are fotopic sites really bad at search? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 One on the South Eastern was based in a Rudd Wagon, so was the 'Rudd Fan', I'll post a picture later. Do these count as 'self propelled' vehicles ie if you left the brake off would the fan blow the wagon along ??? ! That sounds like the prototype that Paul Wade modelled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Another photo at http://richardjones8646.fotopic.net/p46634838.html is it just me or are fotopic sites really bad at search? Not exactly, the search facility doesn't always work, but when it does, I find is extremely effectve at picking out the information that the user supplies with the photo. This is the failure of the system; spelling, mis-reads, etc. can all give strange results. Flickr has it slightly better with tags and so on, but this is even more reliant on the user being on the same wavelength as the searcher... See the debate over this site's gallery for the reasoning. Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Not exactly, the search facility doesn't always work, but when it does, I find is extremely effectve at picking out the information that the user supplies with the photo. This is the failure of the system; spelling, mis-reads, etc. can all give strange results. Flickr has it slightly better with tags and so on, but this is even more reliant on the user being on the same wavelength as the searcher... See the debate over this site's gallery for the reasoning. Adam Ta. The reason I asked was that I found the photo by eye, then copy-pasted the description to search for similar photos and got zero results - not even the one I was looking at! Ho hum. I think I've exhausted (pun intended) fotopic for "fan" and "ventilation" now. Be interesting to see what comes from the visit to sunny Donny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Note: 'extremely effective' does not always equate to '100% reliable'! Ta. The reason I asked was that I found the photo by eye, then copy-pasted the description to search for similar photos and got zero results - not even the one I was looking at! Ho hum. I think I've exhausted (pun intended) fotopic for "fan" and "ventilation" now. Be interesting to see what comes from the visit to sunny Donny. Did you find this one? http://markf6750.fotopic.net/p40339752.html Search term 'zsb'. Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted February 3, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2010 Re fotopic search for fan wagon: Normally I find the fotopic search system works well, but there is cuurently a note on the user log in page saying that the search system is currently partly unavailable while work is done on speeding it up David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hump Shunter Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Ahh.. here it is: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
new puritan Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 An odd underfame- looks like a former parcels van or similar to me. There was another one of these on a Grampus underframe, which Paul Wade modelled on Tonbridge West yard. I believe 901720 started life as a runner for a Cowan Sheldon 45 ton crane. Another pic of it here ... http://john678.fotopic.net/p60119958.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted February 3, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2010 Ahh.. here it is: Looks like a 'Doodlebug' to me... ...I'm very dissapointed that this thread isn't about 'Footex's'! by the way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R A Watson Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Does it suck or blow? looks to me it will push the exhaust from the generator into the tunnel rather defeating the purpose of the machine. Wally Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted February 5, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 5, 2010 Saw this thread yesterday and then the thing passes my house today!! How coincidental is that? Fotopic doesn't always find the number on its own - also try DE901720 and ADE901720 Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyddrail Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Steve Farmer did a fan mounted in a Grampus which lives on my TWY layout. I converted a bogie C into a Tunnel ventilation wagon with fan and genny, the fan body being a turning done by Steve. I have a second fan turning which will be used in a Hornby Rudd to form that pictured in this thread. You can't have too many fan wagons. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40044 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 I believe ADE 901720 is working tonight on the underground section of the Merseyrail network. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted February 6, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 6, 2010 You can't have too many fan wagons. Cheers. Does that mean you're a fan wagon fan? Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Damn, this thread had sort of passed me by, assuming it was about the old GWR propeller wagons. Now I've got another engineers wagon I'd like to model cheers jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 I believe 901720 started life as a runner for a Cowan Sheldon 45 ton crane. Another pic of it here ... http://john678.fotopic.net/p60119958.html Paul Bartlett's latest addition to his site includes some photos of cranes and runners, which has some wagons with very similar underframes:- http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p63185777.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpb56125 Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 I believe ADE 901720 is working tonight on the underground section of the Merseyrail network. This wagon passed Manchester Piccadilly this morning, in a CWR train off Merseyrail Northern Line. It number was JZA, NLU 93465 http://mark5810.foto.../p63221261.html http://mark5810.foto.../p63221260.html http://mark5810.foto.../p63222019.html Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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