Re-Run of the Ixion Manning Wardle 0-4-0ST

[81A Oldoak]

The partners at Ixion Model Railways are considering a re-run of the RTR brass Manning Wardle 0-4-0ST. Only 103 models were originally made and they have been sold out for a while. We need commitments for 50 locomotives to commission a re-run, which would be in the plain black livery. The non-binding target retail price will be £460 or more including UK VATdepending on exchange rates and other variable costs. To register a serious interest either send an e-mail to admin@ixionmodels.com or a private message via RMweb to 81A Oldoak aka me with your name, address, e-mail address and telephone number.

 

I have attached some photos of my persional loco "Victory". It shows the opening smoke-box door. The fire-box door also opens.

[Guest 838rapid]

Cheeky bump,but also to ask how the orders levels are going?.

[81A Oldoak]

Cheeky bump,but also to ask how the orders levels are going?.

10 expressions so far and some retailers have asked if there is an opportunity for them to stock it.

[chaz]

You will of course post when those of us who have stuck a toe in the water need to get our trunks on?

 

I don't much care for blue steam locos (unless they have streamlined casings) and would never run one myself   but I do like your "Victory" - a little sweety!

Edited September 11, 2014 by chaz

[81A Oldoak]

You will of course post when those of us who have stuck a toe in the water need to get our trunks on?

 

I don't much care for blue steam locos (unless they have streamlined casings) and would never run one myself   but I do like your "Victory" - a little sweety!

We'll keep everyone posted about progress.

[Guest Isambarduk]

"I don't much care for blue steam locos .."

Ah, shame :-(

 

How about this one?
 

More images and details at: www.davidlosmith.co.uk/Andrew-Barclay-Fireless.htm

David

[chaz]

"I don't much care for blue steam locos .."

 

Ah, shame :-(

 

How about this one?

 

More images and details at: www.davidlosmith.co.uk/Andrew-Barclay-Fireless.htm

 

David

 

Hang on, that's not a proper steam loco!   ....and much easier to clean.

Edited September 12, 2014 by chaz

[aaron3820]

I could sense a lovely 1021 Cardiff

[chaz]

I was just thinking if when I get my Ixion Manning Wardle ("manly waddle" as my wife has it) it will bring my roster of industrials up to four. So what I am going to need is a small 7mm industrial layout. A few sidings, an offstage area for stuff to go to, an exchange siding to justify BR locos coming and going - urban setting, lots of grime and squalor - so I started to do a few back-of-an-envelope sketches of track plans. OH, HANG ON A MINUTE . These sketches bare a startling resemblance to Dock Green.......SORTED!

 

Chaz

[81A Oldoak]

Expressions of interest are almost at the half-way point for the minimum number of Manning Wardle locomotives needed to commission a second run. If you are interested in buying one, please send either a PM to me on RMWeb or an e-mail to admin@ixionmodels.com including your name, e-mail and postal addresses and telephone number.

[mountaingoat]

As the proud owner of one of the Manning H class (via Dragon Models of course!!) I recently put the little beauty through the paintshops via Conrad Cooper who has done a brilliant job of the livery of Cambrian Railways No.22.

 

All that remains is to fit the vacuum and ejector pipes, add a very large toolbox to the front offside buffer beam and find an appropriate train.

 

So if anyone is still thinking that the loco is purely industrial, the Cambrian had one, I believe the North Eastern had a couple or three, as did the Midland.

 

I don't know how many expressions of interest that Ixion have yet received for a re-run of this loco, but I hope that the attached photos will inspire.

 

Chris

[81A Oldoak]

What a beauty. I may do one myself.

[Andrew Young]

Your Cambrian No 22 looks very attractive, shame that Dragon no longer do their Cambrian transfers :-(

 

Cheers,

Andrew

[chaz]

Hot cakes or lead balloons? I think we should be told. How about it Mr Klein?

 

I seem to recall having a conversation with a kit maker at a trade show about how 7mm etched brass kits sold and he opined that if he produced a run of 100 kits he would sell about half of them and the rest would go very slowly, if at all. Although the same numbers will obviously not apply to RTR the market for 7mm is obviously limited, and your own Hudswell Clarke is a strong competitor on price. It may be that your original batch filled most of the need and just a few who missed out first time around (or foolishly sold theirs on ) remain in the market.

 

Chaz

Edited November 25, 2014 by chaz

[Mike Bellamy]

Hot cakes or lead balloons? I think we should be told. How about it Mr Klein?

 

 

 

I think Mr K might be a little busy with the imminent arrival of 500 Hudswell Clarkes as described here

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/80426-cwm-bach-a-south-wales-branch-line/page-26&do=findComment&comment=1677035

 

This must be the best selling 7mm loco ever - unless anyone knows how many tinplate locos the original Hornby company produced

 

I also think it's about time we were told about the new Ixion loco being produced in partnership with someone else - there were a lot of announcements at the NEC last weekend but I didn't pick up any hints from anyone . . . . . . . . .

 

 

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[81A Oldoak]

I think Mr K might be a little busy with the imminent arrival of 500 Hudswell Clarkes as described here

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/80426-cwm-bach-a-south-wales-branch-line/page-26&do=findComment&comment=1677035

 

This must be the best selling 7mm loco ever - unless anyone knows how many tinplate locos the original Hornby company produced

 

I also think it's about time we were told about the new Ixion loco being produced in partnership with someone else - there were a lot of announcements at the NEC last weekend but I didn't pick up any hints from anyone . . . . . . . . .

 

 

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Mike,

Almost a fifth of the new Hudswells are taken. Concerning the new RTR loco venture that we are assisting, the propriertor is waiting for the 3D CAD drawings before making a decision about an announcement.

 

Regards,

 

Chris

[chaz]

and the Manly Waddle?

[81A Oldoak]

About 20 expressions of interest so a way to go yet.

[switcher 1]

I think maybe too expensive as a brass model, could possibly sell quite a few if made like the HC, & at that sort of price.

[wagonman]

I think maybe too expensive as a brass model, could possibly sell quite a few if made like the HC, & at that sort of price.

 

I've signed up for one and hang the expense. 

[81A Oldoak]

Still some way to go.

[hartleymartin]

Any updates on a production run?

[ngtrains.com]

I am sure Chris will be along with the definitive answer shortly but I think there is still some way to go before there are enough expressions of interest to make a brass re-run likely.

 

I hope they do get to do another run though as I reckon they would sell. That said, just at this moment I have seen too much of them

I have now fitted sound to more that 10% of the production with one more to do for a customer after this one and then, hopefully, my own.

 

The loco's are fitted with a ZIMO MZ645 decoder with a sound file done for me by Paul Chetter. The leading axle has one of my EDM Models synch disks on it to time the exhaust. There is a sugar cube speaker on the centre frame stretched. The two pin plug on top of the motor goes to the keep alive unit mounted in the saddle tank. Experience with doing the first of the ten has evolved into a routine applied to all of them now. They come apart and the gearbox is stripped of grease cleaned, reassembled and lube with nano grease (a US product that is the mutt nuts), The Chinese seem to go for quantity rather than quality with the grease and it comes packed with something more like Vaseline.

 

They do seem to be congregating though with 4% of the saleable production on my bench at the moment. The black one (back left) is done just waiting final DCC tuning, the back blue one is un-started but next in line whilst the blue one (front left) is in the process of being done.

 

The chassis with the blue cylinders is my own which has turned into a bit of a shed queen and has been cannibalised to sort problems with customers engines so if and when I get it going it will be quite different to a standard model as it now lacks a motor, one gear and two plunger pickups.  I have a fancy to rebuild it with sprung suspension*, lighter pickups and a more efficient motor gearbox but we'll have to see how that turns out - being my engine it bottom of the `to do' list.

 

* [you might say "but its got sprung suspension" but this is one of my bones of contention with these many far eastern produced models, my repost would be "i think you'll find its got rigid suspension that happens to contain a spring" because the spring is so strong and its preloaded to such and extent that the axleboxes are pressed hard against the keeps and you have to press down on the model with a hell of a lot of force to get any more compression]

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest Isambarduk]

"I think you'll find its got rigid suspension that happens to contain a spring" because the spring is so strong and its preloaded to such and extent that the axleboxes are pressed hard against the keeps and you have to press down on the model with a hell of a lot of force to get any more compression"

I entirely concur, Paul. I have spent many a happy hour in my workshop extensively reworking some excellent RTR models from the Far East and fitting more appropriate springs is just one of the improving mods (there is so much that can be done to make the good into the very good).  Now I think of it, although the springs were fine, I have so 'treated' my Ixion Hudswell Clarke (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/69095-idea-conversion-of-ixion-hudswell-clarke/?p=1001446 ) and my Fowler (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/78328-ixion-0-gauge-fowler-diesel-loco/?p=1391937 ) to a makeover (examples of before and after):

 

David

[brianthesnail96]

I'm glad I managed to pick mine up (cheap, secondhand but by the looks of it virtually unrun) when I did. One of the ones with Paul for fitting noise to (the black one- still not decided if it's staying that way though).