RMweb Premium Crepello Posted June 28, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2016 A new update today--80027 still Aug/Sep but 80119 now Oct/Nov--that's my Xmas sorted out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 A new update today--80027 still Aug/Sep but 80119 now Oct/Nov Hmm, odd, as review samples (at least of 80119) have already been circulated to the press/mags. As they claim the review samples are taken from the production run (and airfreighted to the UK) it seems strange that they expect shipping (of the bulk batch) to now take over three months. G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 3 months is quite believable based on the date stamp on the inside of Farish and Bachmann boxes which is up to that length of time on new releases. Suppose there has to be enough products produced to fill a container and do not Bachmann Europe have to pay Kader for them before they are shipped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted June 29, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 29, 2016 This is all getting a bit deja A2......... Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 3 months is quite believable based on the date stamp on the inside of Farish and Bachmann boxes which is up to that length of time on new releases. Suppose there has to be enough products produced to fill a container and do not Bachmann Europe have to pay Kader for them before they are shipped. Kader are a huge manufacturer making more than just model trains - I doubt it would take nearly two months to fill a container. And I doubt exporters have to wait to fill a container - surely DJM's odd releases to date haven't been of sufficient volume to fill a whole container. Plus Dave Jones has just quoted 7 weeks for the sea voyage - a little longer than the old oft mentioned 6 weeks - but perhaps it's a slow boat from China. ;-) G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Kader are a huge manufacturer making more than just model trains - I doubt it would take nearly two months to fill a container. And I doubt exporters have to wait to fill a container - surely DJM's odd releases to date haven't been of sufficient volume to fill a whole container. Plus Dave Jones has just quoted 7 weeks for the sea voyage - a little longer than the old oft mentioned 6 weeks - but perhaps it's a slow boat from China. Not if the container is specific for delivery to Barwell, there is also the transit from factory to dockyard to factor in, the wait on the dockyard, and the wait then on board the ship for its actual departure. Take the latest batch of Inspection Saloons, mremag 22 April this year reported them to be currently on the way to the UK. My Blue/Grey one has the date 160114 on the inside of the box end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Not if the container is specific for delivery to Barwell, there is also the transit from factory to dockyard to factor in, the wait on the dockyard, and the wait then on board the ship for its actual departure. Take the latest batch of Inspection Saloons, mremag 22 April this year reported them to be currently on the way to the UK. My Blue/Grey one has the date 160114 on the inside of the box end. But you don't know what date is stamped on the inside of the 4MT boxes (or what it refers to). All we know is that they are made and that reviews samples are here. And for the inspection saloons, if mremag reported the their review sample was here end of April and the main batch is now here that is a lot less than three months. G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Kader are a huge manufacturer making more than just model trains - I doubt it would take nearly two months to fill a container. And I doubt exporters have to wait to fill a container - surely DJM's odd releases to date haven't been of sufficient volume to fill a whole container. Plus Dave Jones has just quoted 7 weeks for the sea voyage - a little longer than the old oft mentioned 6 weeks - but perhaps it's a slow boat from China. ;-) G. Hi Grahame, Did I? 7 weeks door to door......but on the ship? 28 days Tell me where and I'll, change the typo. Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) 7 weeks door to door......but on the ship? 28 days Excellent, thanks. So that's even less time and presumably the 7 weeks (door to door) includes all the extra time mentioned such transit from factory to dockyard to factor in, the wait on the dockyard, and the wait then on board the ship for its actual departure, landing clearance times, onward transit in the UK and so on? It sounds like two months before people get to see them is a lot more realistic than three months, although TBH I'm not exactly gagging for a 4MT and it doesn't really matter. G. Edited June 30, 2016 by grahame Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Excellent, thanks. So that's even less time and presumably the 7 weeks (door to door) includes all the extra time mentioned such transit from factory to dockyard to factor in, the wait on the dockyard, and the wait then on board the ship for its actual departure, landing clearance times, onward transit in the UK and so on? It sounds like two months before people get to see them is a lot more realistic than three months, although TBH I'm not exactly gagging for a 4MT and it doesn't really matter. G. Hi Grahame, Usually (for me) it works like this..... 1) Production ready, liaise with shipping company for a ship date 2) Ship from factory to port (usually a week to get a truck that's got space to do this including a day for transport to Hong Kong, and also including getting paperwork in place and accepted by all parties and also includes trans shipping to a container. Also included here is the wait for the ship, and then the loading (in destination order if there are a couple of stops en route). 3) 28 days at sea to either Southampton or Felixstowe, sometimes a day or so longer due to weather en route 4) usually 2 days to unload. 5) a day for de-vanning 6) then 5 or so days to get a truck and ship including arrival at the final destination In between all this are a couple of variables...... Wind speed at port preventing unloading, and I've known that to cause a 2 day delivery, and.........duty payment at port. If you delay payment your consignment is delayed until you do. Free storage for a week then you get charged for that too on a sliding scale. That's why I say 6-7 weeks as its a cover all, and gives me wriggle room, but pleases everyone if it's sooner. However, if you decide to fly the consignment in, it's, by comparison, very expensive, and cuts drastically into your profit margin, when compared to sea shipping. Hope this helps? Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted July 6, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2016 Site from 1 July shows 80119 now Sep/Oct; that makes a change from the usual delays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Kader are a huge manufacturer making more than just model trains - I doubt it would take nearly two months to fill a container. And I doubt exporters have to wait to fill a container - surely DJM's odd releases to date haven't been of sufficient volume to fill a whole container. Plus Dave Jones has just quoted 7 weeks for the sea voyage - a little longer than the old oft mentioned 6 weeks - but perhaps it's a slow boat from China. ;-) G. Straight from the horses mouth: Thank you for taking the time to contact us. The date stamp on the packaging of Bachmann products is the date of production of the model. I trust this information is of interest to you, Kind regards Richard Proudman Customer Support | Bachmann Europe PLC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 The date stamp on the packaging of Bachmann products is the date of production of the model. It's worth clarifying that the date is in reverse format. For example today is 11 07 16 so this will appear as 160711 in a box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 It's worth clarifying that the date is in reverse format. For example today is 11 07 16 so this will appear as 160711 in a box. If it was 2011 then the stock really was on a slow boat from China!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Hot off the press and on dispay at yesterday's NGS AGM Expo were the latest EP versions of their Castle class loco and Auto-coach. G 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy L S Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Plus CADs of the forthcoming Class 40 with the news that it is now signed off for tooling with a first EP due in August. Without giving away many specifics I was told it promises to be something very special apparently with even greater levels of detail and higher mechanical spec. Next 18 Decoder will mean both sets of lights switchable on DCC for one. Also being demo'd was the sound fitted 108 DMU. I had a play using their dynamis setup, and was very impressed by the sound file, but the great news for non DCC convers is that the basic sound also works on DC, From discussions with others in the room we seemed mostly to agree that it was a shame that the first sound release was in BR blue, had it been in green, especially with the usability on DC there appeared many customers! However it has to be acknowledged that they had to start somewhere a body swap with a green one is feasible as chassis are identical - one to explore certainly! Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted July 18, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 18, 2016 Plus CADs of the forthcoming Class 40 with the news that it is now signed off for tooling with a first EP due in August. Without giving away many specifics I was told it promises to be something very special apparently with even greater levels of detail and higher mechanical spec. Next 18 Decoder will mean both sets of lights switchable on DCC for one. Also being demo'd was the sound fitted 108 DMU. I had a play using their dynamis setup, and was very impressed by the sound file, but the great news for non DCC convers is that the basic sound also works on DC, From discussions with others in the room we seemed mostly to agree that it was a shame that the first sound release was in BR blue, had it been in green, especially with the usability on DC there appeared many customers! However it has to be acknowledged that they had to start somewhere a body swap with a green one is feasible as chassis are identical - one to explore certainly! Roy Any pics chaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted September 14, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 14, 2016 Class 40 pics up today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted September 22, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 22, 2016 Castles now Feb/Mar (20 Sept). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed-farms Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Not far away then, still time for me to save up for a couple of GWR versions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted April 25, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 25, 2017 New update today. Haven't studied dates but has Sir Daniel slipped?(!!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted July 4, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 4, 2017 Update today--82020 (green standard 3MT) has slipped to July/Aug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted September 30, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) Now it just shows the plain green 3MT is 'on order'. At least the delay helps me pay for the 40s! Edited September 30, 2017 by Crepello Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted October 15, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 15, 2017 82020 now put back to Feb/Mar. (update 13 October 2017). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted June 4, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 4, 2018 Not really an update but a moan about 'ETAs' not being shown on the new website, as far as I can see. Maybe I've missed something, in which case please point it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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