Mike at C&M Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 (edited) C&M Models are delighted to announce that Dapol have accepted a commission to produce an exclusive limited edition Class 156 2-Car 'Sprinter' unit in the current ScotRail 'Saltaire' livery. This is an 'N' gauge model Production is scheduled for early in 2015, and it is our hope that the model will be available around March 2015. The price of the model is £109.95, plus postage if applicable. It is not expected that there will be a price rise out of Dapol in the interim. The specification for the model is as for the standard Dapol model. Namely Super Creep Motor, Directional Lighting, DCC 6-pin Ready, All Wheel Drive and Light Bar Ready. Advance reservations are now being taken, and the easiest way to register your interest is to e-mail us on sales@candmmodels.co.uk We hope this will prove as resounding a success as our ScotRail liveried Mark 3 coach sets have done. Mike Parsons C&M Models Edited September 1, 2017 by 87029 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelboy45 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 This looks excellent but the flag is the Saltire not Saltaire! Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 Thanks gelboy45. Obviously getting my Scottish flags and Yorkshire villages mixed up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padishar Creel Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 A bit too modern for me, but the Class156 is one of the better models, so probably I will find a loophole in the security sofware of my common sense and peng! One will wind ist way to Herrenberg es grüßt pc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu from EGDL Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) Hi Mike, Excellent idea...despite the fact I have already painted my own dummy 156 a couple of years ago in Saltire livery. Got a number for it yet..I'd like to se one in the 156500-156514 series. I'll definately be in for one unit maybe two......will there be an unpowered version..although it would be easy enough to switch chassis around!!! Later, Stu in OAKN. Ps...I have taken the liberty, Mike of cross posting your announcement on to the N Gauge Forum for wider publicity as there are some on there who are not members here!! Edited September 27, 2014 by Stu from EGDL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adam1701D Posted September 27, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2014 Should be a popular release - if I get anyone asking about my own 156 vinyls I'll point them in C&M's direction. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 Thank you for the positive response. Especially to those who are spreading the word on my behalf, it is highly appreciated No unit numbered has been decided, but the one I photographed in detail at Carlisle station was 156.512, and the driver was kind enough to put me a number of different destinations up in the matrix display. Looking to update the shop website over the weekend, to facilitate online ordering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Nice to see these special commissions being done. Will certainly add variety. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruff Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Good luck with this one Mike, a bit too modern for me, so I will have to sit this one out this time I'm afraid.. But I love my mk3 set and 86's Cheers Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted October 18, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 18, 2014 Hi there, Great stuff. This is an excellent commission and great to see more variation in N. cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 A few weeks ago, several people in prominent places within the industry questioned whether the relevant permissions were in place for us to do this model. There was a danger that our project could hit the buffers before we had really started. I am happy to report that following assistance from these people, often in places you would not expect, Dapol now have the relevant licences in place to produce the model, so the project goes ahead! A big thank you to everyone for their help. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) When we did the ScotRail Mark 3 coaches, we put up the pictures of the livery samples and asked for any comments on errors and omissions that needed correcting. So below is the provisional artwork for the ScotRail 156. Any comments will be gratefully received. We are already aware of the double numbering on both the coaches. Edited October 24, 2014 by 87029 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adam1701D Posted October 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2014 Looks good - a couple of points, though. The roof should be black over the ribbed area - only the 156433 received the blue roof. On the secondman's side, the lettering under ScotRail is now in Gaelic. Hope the images help - you are probably a bit more local than I am for these beasties! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted October 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2014 Hi Mike Very nice. A couple of small points: 1) The white dots at the very outer edge of of the unit "wrap around" onto the front. I think the artwork is trying to illustrate this. 2) I think the "solebar" should be blue. I wasn't sure about the Saltire marking on the inner ends of the model, but a little photo trickery of putting the cars together suggests they are about right: HTH and good luck with the project! cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordonotron Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 But gutted this is in N gauge as living in Glasgow I see these all the time, and the Hornby ones in oo are nowhere to be seen. The roof was my main point as it wasn't all blue. It's also missing the side lights and some unused window panels (beyond the livery though) Also (and I know screens don't show exact colours) but the doors look to be a bright white in the sample, maybe there just never cleaned up here but they always seemed more of a dull white. I also assume the change in blues around the saltire ends are just the photoshop use. The main blues might also be a bit bright. Last point (as I'm probably going on now) but the dots in the blue sections and the main logo look really poor. Again I assume this is just at samples stage and is to be tweaked so just tell me to be quiet if I'm thinking to far ahead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted November 4, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 4, 2014 The Hornby ones are also inaccurate despite being told before production, at a Perth show, that they were not correct. Another one where Simon Kohler seemingly listened but then nothing happened! As has been pointed out above the roof should be black, the Hornby one was Blue, in fact the whole Hornby model looked like it had been moulded in blue, really not a very accurate model at all. As with the Scotrail mk3s it just a shame we have the dead hand of Hornby with large quantities required to do special commissions. Good luck to C&M obviously Dapol are much more flexible! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 obviously Dapol are much more flexible! Various comments about the N Gauge sample photos have been passed on to Dapol, so we shouldn't fall into the same traps as Hornby. On 'Captain Electras' advice, I walked the 3 minutes from the shop on to the footbridge shown in his 2nd shot to get a shot of the roof. However, even that was fraught with problems, but that is another story (or three). Thank you to all for their comments, your interest and assistance is greatly appreciated 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted November 5, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 5, 2014 Hi Mike, I've found Dapol to be very reasonable and responsive with getting colours and livery markings right in my dealings with them for the NGS commissions. And well done for - almost literally - going the extra mile to get the roof colour right! Cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley West Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 The very best of luck with this commission, Mike. I hope it's a big success. Just like the Mk 3s though, it's such a shame (for me at least) that it's 'N' again! Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 I have received my livery samples, so a few photographs to tempt you further. This is the final stage at which we can make any required changes, so please feel free to point out any errors that you spot. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Well, being a self appointed expert on the Class 156 I'd say that there is one minor error that will need correcting on the production run, namely those missing roundy bits that the DMU sits on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash39 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I'm not an expert on this livery, but to my eyes that looks like a superb job of a very complex livery! Very impressed the numbers on the front are in the correct font as well. Would have been easy to stick with the standard BR style. Also the lights have been modified to the (correct) two light WIPAC style rather than the three that the original 156's had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adam1701D Posted November 26, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2014 Got to say that is a very impressive rendering of the Scotrail livery. Believe me, I know it is not an easy scheme to reproduce. I take it you are not going with the Gaellic wording under the right-hand facing car. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 Bennyboy, I would love to say that Dapol have developed a Maglev drive, but that would be a lie. Adam, We thought that this would be a standard livery, with few variations. We were wrong. I photographed 156.512 extensively during a layover in Carlisle station and the decision was taken to re-produce that unit as we know what the correct details are on that unit. As it did not carry the Gaelic wording, neither does the model. I have had a few PMs with some minor details to check. Thank to all for your help, it is greatly appreciated. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelboy45 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 This does look excellent except for the cab fronts which according to the prototype photograph have a separate section above the windscreen wipers. Will this be featured in the finished model? Apologies for nit-picking but the front appearance is so important.....! Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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