RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted March 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) Hi there, Having examined the samples when they were photographed last week I can confirm they look excellent. It's good to see the yellow bar across the windscreen as previously mentioned. As to colours - you've identified an interesting dilemma. Specifying the right RAL numbers should guarantee this as they are internationally recognised. However, the photo a few posts above indicates the "scale" problem - the blue dots on the prototype appear somehow brighter - it is often suggested that this is because they are physically larger and therefore reflect more light. My view is that most of your customers would prefer the reassurance of the model being painted to the correct RAL numbers specified by Scotrail on what us, in my opinion, one of the most attractive of the current liveries. Cheers Ben A. Edited March 6, 2015 by Ben A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 Ben, I had heard of the colour versus scale problem, but never come across it in real life until now. With the original samples, in some lights, the blue dots were not particularly visible, and yet when Michael Portillo did his Scottish tour on TV the same week, even at distance the 156s light blue dots were clearly visible. So something had to be done to 'correct' the problem. I suspect I gave a few people a good laugh kneeling down next to a 156 in Carlisle station trying to photograph an 'N' gauge bodyshell held up against the full size version. The decision is mine to change the lighter blue colour, and I have done this based solely on the fact the dots are as visible on the model, as they are on the prototype. I feel that as it was, I would face more criticism for having the livery of the unit not looking right, even though the RAL colours used have been copied. Who would commission a model? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted March 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2015 Hi there, I'd actually misunderstood your original post! The samples I saw looked right - I thought you were planning to make them lighter. I now realise I was looking at the lightened version - and I agree that is absolutely the way to go! Cheers Ben A. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 Spot On! The Farish Class 47/7 (pre-production model) and our Dapol Mark 3s. Photographed in Edinburgh this afternoon 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted March 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22, 2015 Top notch ... a good colour match stripes on coaches show the 50/50 split and loco the 33/66 split but not that bad to look at , if it is bad to the eye then Railtec do a suitable transfer I believe and fox do as well. looking forward to both and in time the DBSO which seems to be going backward ! Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted May 18, 2015 Author Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) I am sorry to have to report a further delay. We are now being quoted late August/September for the release date of our model. Edited May 18, 2015 by 87029 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDBLUE17 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Hi Mike, Thanks for the update and the model will be well worth the wait from the samples I saw at Glasgow. All the best Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andythebud Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 The model looks good. Are you still intending to release as 'First'. The contract changed earlier this year to Abellio. Livery is the same as Transport Scotland had decided to have one livery to save money when the franchise changed hands. Only the operator decals on the doors had to be changed (almost sure it was only the doors that had the 'First' markings). Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 The model will be released with the 'First' logos on, as these are what we photographed when the livery was being researched. At that time, it was not known what the 'Abellio' labelling would be. Obviously with the livery remaining the same under the new franchise, anyone who must have an Abellio unit can amend the 'First' logos without affecting the livery as modelled. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted June 1, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 1, 2015 I am sure someone like RailTec could provide some transfers to change the small operators logos if you really want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0rris Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Indeed, and it is worth noting that if you are modelling ScotRail the two 170 releases and recent 158 from Farish are all modelled with "Operated by First" logos and there was no "transition period" where both First and Abellio logo'd stock ran together, having spent a couple of months making sure all signs of First logos were removed, there was a massive overnight push to get every single unit decorated with Abellio logos on the 31st March/1st April. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andythebud Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Indeed, and it is worth noting that if you are modelling ScotRail the two 170 releases and recent 158 from Farish are all modelled with "Operated by First" logos and there was no "transition period" where both First and Abellio logo'd stock ran together, having spent a couple of months making sure all signs of First logos were removed, there was a massive overnight push to get every single unit decorated with Abellio logos on the 31st March/1st April. Good point about the 170s and 158. Tempted to build a small layout using all 3. Great to see someone willing to produce the 156 in Scotrail livery as it is the workhorse of many of the unelectrified lines around Glasgow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 We have been told that production should be completed by mid-August. So all being well, the models should be with us about mid-September. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted September 20, 2015 Author Share Posted September 20, 2015 (edited) Unfortunately, we have been advised that production of our limited edition Class 156 in Scotrail ‘Saltire’ livery has once again been pushed back.The problem is not with our model, but delays in production with models that are in front of ours within the queue at the factory.We now hope that the 156s will be with us some time in November. For those patiently waiting for the release of our exclusive model, our apologies for the continuing delays. Edited September 20, 2015 by 87029 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 I am delighted to report that production of our ScotRail 'Saltire' 156s has now been completed in China. They are being airfreighted to the UK, and allowing for customs, QC checks etc. , they will hopefully be with us in about a fortnight. For those who have pre-ordered, we will contact you when they arrive in Carlisle so that we can arrange delivery and payment (where details are not already held). Thank you for your patience, Mike 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted October 10, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2015 Hi This is good news, looking forward to arrival. Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eddie reffin Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I am delighted to report that production of our ScotRail 'Saltire' 156s has now been completed in China. They are being airfreighted to the UK, and allowing for customs, QC checks etc. , they will hopefully be with us in about a fortnight. For those who have pre-ordered, we will contact you when they arrive in Carlisle so that we can arrange delivery and payment (where details are not already held). Thank you for your patience, Mike Great news Mike. Really looking forward to it arriving after seeing the sample in the shop this week. Was good to have a blether too. Cheers Eddie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) And they have now arrived in Carlisle.... If you have one on order, then it is one of the 199 on the shelves in the bottom picture. Despatching starts on Thursday. Edited October 14, 2015 by 87029 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted October 14, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 14, 2015 I presume one of those is mine! Looking forward to receiving it. I had better finish building the station for it to run into pretty sharpish!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted October 14, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2015 Well done for getting this project to completion hopefully those full shelves will clear in the coming week. I really look forward to the arrival of my set . Next ? regards Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Watson Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Looking forward to receiving mine and see it in the flesh. Well done all for coming up with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eddie reffin Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) Mine has reached me up here in Inverness. Only had a quick look but it's superb. Thanks to Mike for such a prompt dispatch. Edited October 17, 2015 by eddie reffin 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted October 17, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 17, 2015 Just back from Peterborough to find mine waiting for me on the doorstep. Unpacked already and looks great. Will have to wait until tomorrow before it can be run and maybe a few piccies taken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted October 28, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2015 Hi Just to add my thanks - a lovely model colected from sorting office today having been in Wales for a week! Looks great ,runs well, if you have not got one get in quick cannot be many left. I wonder what will come next ? Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matabiau Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Many thanks to C&M Models for another superb limited edition, mine has made it accross the Channel and works well in DCC mode (unlike some Dapol 156s). Just waiting for the orange and black Strathclyde PTE version to be announced (hint-hint). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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