RMweb Gold highpeakman Posted March 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 16, 2017 I've had an e-mail from Hattons, that the outstanding J94, BR weathered 68012, Cromford and High Peak resident, has arrived. Just got mine as well. Pleased with it so far but noticed there were no couplings in box. Is that normal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Al51 Posted March 16, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 16, 2017 My 68012 has the couplings in a small plastic bag with the detailing parts. Al Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold highpeakman Posted March 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 16, 2017 My 68012 has the couplings in a small plastic bag with the detailing parts. Al Not in mine. I have searched the floor all around where I opened the box as well but nothing to be found. Not a deal breaker as I have spare couplings but I have emailed Hattons about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted March 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 16, 2017 I run mine with Kadees. If you want some spare original couplings, PM me. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted March 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 16, 2017 I run mine with Kadees. If you want some spare original couplings, PM me. Ian What have you used? I have #19 in mine and have been thinking of swapping to some #18 instead. I have some small radius points in the yard but it still looks like it would be ok if I go smaller. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Not in mine. I have searched the floor all around where I opened the box as well but nothing to be found. Not a deal breaker as I have spare couplings but I have emailed Hattons about it. I'm sure you've checked but the couplings are in a cut out in the foam at the top of the box, about 2 cms above the top of the loco. This cutout can be hidden by the yellow ribbon. Unfortunately mine will have to go back, a non runner out of the box. The second J94 I've had which is like this, the other was the standard range early BR crest version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold highpeakman Posted March 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 17, 2017 I run mine with Kadees. If you want some spare original couplings, PM me. Ian Thank you very much indeed for your offer Ian but I do have spare couplers that should fit and, hopefully, Hattons will rectify the situation anyway. The thought is much appreciated however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold highpeakman Posted March 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 17, 2017 I'm sure you've checked but the couplings are in a cut out in the foam at the top of the box, about 2 cms above the top of the loco. This cutout can be hidden by the yellow ribbon. Unfortunately mine will have to go back, a non runner out of the box. The second J94 I've had which is like this, the other was the standard range early BR crest version. Yes, the the yellow ribbon was there and the cut out you refer to, but it was empty. Have checked carefully all around and taken the foam out of the box. Thanks for the suggestions anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold highpeakman Posted March 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 17, 2017 I'm sure you've checked but the couplings are in a cut out in the foam at the top of the box, about 2 cms above the top of the loco. This cutout can be hidden by the yellow ribbon. Unfortunately mine will have to go back, a non runner out of the box. The second J94 I've had which is like this, the other was the standard range early BR crest version. Hattons have said they will send couplings so that is good. Sorry to hear your model won't run properly. I ran mine in on a rolling road on DC and then fitted a decoder and it runs very well indeed so mine was a minor problem. Hope you get yours fixed/replaced soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Hattons have said they will send couplings so that is good. Sorry to hear your model won't run properly. I ran mine in on a rolling road on DC and then fitted a decoder and it runs very well indeed so mine was a minor problem. Hope you get yours fixed/replaced soon. Like yourself, Hattons have been very helpful and will send a replacement which will be tested first. This model was delayed as according to the advice I had from Hattons a few months ago, there was an error with the buffers, which had to be replaced, so it's likely they were manufactured with the other Hattons versions and the BR crest DJ Models main range version. If so as I've had 2 complete failures from that batch, I'm wondering if there is a batch of dodgy motors. All my other DJ Models produced locos have worked fine, only these two. My advice is to make sure you test your J94s and don't rely on the certificate that says they have been tested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pannier Tank Man Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Hattons have said they will send couplings so that is good. Sorry to hear your model won't run properly. I ran mine in on a rolling road on DC and then fitted a decoder and it runs very well indeed so mine was a minor problem. Hope you get yours fixed/replaced soon. I had the same problem with the couplings ran up hattons they sent me some in the post oddly i got a detailing pack with 1 coupling and another with 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted March 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 17, 2017 What have you used? I have #19 in mine and have been thinking of swapping to some #18 instead. I have some small radius points in the yard but it still looks like it would be ok if I go smaller. Roy Hi Roy, I generally use No18. They run through Peco 75 medium radius points very well. Both of my Bachmann 04's run with a No5. Hope this helps, Ian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 On the DJM J94 thread, I have busy fitting sound, working headlamp and generally tarting up the model. Here are the end results with name plates glued on. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted July 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 14, 2017 I recently became the owner of the C&HPR version of the loco, with DCC sound fitted. I'm very pleased with it, but note that it didn't come with a set of middle steps, as the prototype had, either fitted or in the accessories bag. So my question is, should it have been supplied with a middle set of steps? Many thanks, Al Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted July 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 14, 2017 I recently became the owner of the C&HPR version of the loco, with DCC sound fitted. hattons-djm-j94-austerity001.jpg hattons-djm-j94-austerity002.jpg I'm very pleased with it, but note that it didn't come with a set of middle steps, as the prototype had, either fitted or in the accessories bag. So my question is, should it have been supplied with a middle set of steps? Many thanks, Al An e-mail to Dave Jones will normally sort it out. I've always found him to be very helpful. Ian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted July 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 14, 2017 Thanks Ian, I didn't want to bother him if someone on here knew, that's all. Cheers, Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respite Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Bickershaw ? Perhaps. The line came out by Springs Branch shed in Wigan. Hattons' Hurricane is a Bickershaw J94. I've seen somewhere a J94 pushing MGRs and a pair of Blue 20's in the early 1980's. I wish I could remember which article it was to quote exactly, but one of the Lancashire collieries had its exchange sidings at the top of a steep hill on the BR line, with a steeper gradient up from the sidings to the colliery. Class 37s used to struggle up the bank and arrive at the sidings, whereupon the WD saddletank would remove the brake van and breeze off up the steeper line to the pit with the whole of the rest of the train. I can't remember whether it was this pit or one of the Yorkshire ones where BR diesels occasionally needed assistance from the pit loco, which were registered for running over the main line. Les It was Bold Colliery near to St.Helens. NCB locos are known to have banked BR locos at Skiers Spring Drift and Wooley Colliery, Barnsley and at Frances Colliery but non of this was regular. I know also know of a one off banking at Newmarket Colliery up the line to Robin Hood on a cup final day to help the BR loco shift the wagons in one go so the BR men could get home early. There was a one off also at Polkemmet Colliery in the snow. This was from the Exchange sidings up the BR branch towards Fauldhouse Junction with Barclays Nos 25 and No.8 AB1296. I have recently seen video of when BR 08s were being introduced at Polkemmet of No.25 banking an 08 on 5 loaded 21 ton mineral wagons. I daresay NCB banking of BR locos happened at other locations if rail conditions required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I don't think it was Bold. Did the Standish railways have a bit of a hill? Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respite Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I don't think it was Bold. Did the Standish railways have a bit of a hill? Les I doubt it was Lancashire you are referring to as there weren't Class 37s around when I was visiting the collieries just 47s and 25s. However the scenario you are referring to might be Wooley colliery where Pete Hogarth had a photo of Newstead assiting a class 37 in the colliery yard. This was published in Railway Magazine in the early 1970s. the Standish system was all hills but the exchange sidings where by the WCML on the west side of the climb to Boars Head. The standish system finished in BR steam days. I have seen a BR diesel deliver a set of 30 MGRs to Bold and Austerity Joseph remove the brake van and then take the 30 MGRs up the gradient parallel to the BR mainline to the headshunt at Collins Green where the set would be split in what where the old exchange sidings. This sounds a similar scenario to what you describe hence my suggestion that it was Bold. I have also been on the footplate of Robert at Bold when it took 48 empty 16ton minerals from the exchange sidings at St Helens Junction up to COllins Green with little fuss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I doubt it was Lancashire you are referring to as there weren't Class 37s around when I was visiting the collieries just 47s and 25s. However the scenario you are referring to might be Wooley colliery where Pete Hogarth had a photo of Newstead assiting a class 37 in the colliery yard. This was published in Railway Magazine in the early 1970s. the Standish system was all hills but the exchange sidings where by the WCML on the west side of the climb to Boars Head. The standish system finished in BR steam days. I have seen a BR diesel deliver a set of 30 MGRs to Bold and Austerity Joseph remove the brake van and then take the 30 MGRs up the gradient parallel to the BR mainline to the headshunt at Collins Green where the set would be split in what where the old exchange sidings. This sounds a similar scenario to what you describe hence my suggestion that it was Bold. I have also been on the footplate of Robert at Bold when it took 48 empty 16ton minerals from the exchange sidings at St Helens Junction up to COllins Green with little fuss. The banking onto the main line was Newstead. I am probably wrong about the diesels in Lancs being 37s- and can't remember the article, which was written from an NCB perspective - possibly one of Steven Oakden's Bylines articles. Were Class 40s used in Lancs delivering wagons (16 tonners, pre-MGR)? Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respite Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I am probably wrong about the diesels in Lancs being 37s- and can't remember the article, which was written from an NCB perspective - Bylines articles? Were Class 40s used in Lancs delivering wagons (16 tonners, pre-MGR)? Les Class 40s were certainly seen at Bickershaw's exchange sidings, the MGRs seemed to be Class 47s with Class 40s on the 16 tonners. Going back to your query about Class 37s and which colliery had NCB locos taking over the whole train to get the empties up a hill to the colliery. Thinking about it this could be Maesteg you refer to. The first set of exchange sidings were at Nantyffyllon and the austerities would take over trains of 30 21 ton double door mineral wagons and heave them up an incredible incline to the triangle at the Washery before running round and proceeding over to the sidings at Garth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Springs Branch - Bickershaw was mainly 40's, 47's 25's 20's (sometimes 2 x 20's at front, 2 at rear) and later class 60's. The Standish railway system connected with BR at Rylands Sidings, 1 mile or so north of Wigan NW, and the system closed around 1964. Some photos of Bickershaw steam in 1969 on my site below. Brit15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairburn Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Springs Branch - Bickershaw was mainly 40's, 47's 25's 20's (sometimes 2 x 20's at front, 2 at rear) and later class 60's. The Standish railway system connected with BR at Rylands Sidings, 1 mile or so north of Wigan NW, and the system closed around 1964. Some photos of Bickershaw steam in 1969 on my site below. Brit15 Class 50's as well on the MGR when they were still present in the north west. I think the slow running gear was removed during the refurb programme. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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