RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 18, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Made this half semaphore half aspect signal... not sure were it would be located though.. These were used at the transition from Semaphore to Multiple Aspect Signalling arears, usually where the signal box was expected to have a short life due to subsequent planned schemes. See paragraph (ii) and diagrams 2(a)/2(b)/2© in Appendix A of this document http://www.rssb.co.uk/rgs/standards/SSP022%20Iss%201.pdf Edited January 18, 2016 by TheSignalEngineer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 Thanks my mate,for the link. your star 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Ive now started making few "upright" railhead greese drum/units on Banks Road modern image... Edited January 28, 2016 by class"66" 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted February 7, 2016 Author Share Posted February 7, 2016 More to follow shortly.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted May 1, 2016 Author Share Posted May 1, 2016 My latest semaphore build,from ratio lms signal pack.. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted May 1, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2016 Which leads to an interesting question: When were the last firemans call plungers taken out of use? Andy G 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Rectory Junction had one until it closed. There was one at Nuneaton Abbey. I have the signalbox end of the equipment. This was a brass cased Indicator 250 (C62/2515) There are of course two Eastern Region versions in Ely Dock. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted May 1, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2016 Made this half semaphore half aspect signal... not sure were it would be located though.. You need to remove the green glass from the semaphore signal arm and replace it with a metal plate. When a proceed indication is given the green (or single or double yellow indication is given by the colour light head mounted below the arm). You also need to ensure that the colour light head does not show a red aspect - the red indication is given by the red glass and lamp in the semaphore arm. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 Thanks for the advise phil-b259 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 Few more now built tonight.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted May 5, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 5, 2016 The miniature arm which is clear should be red with a vertical white stripe, as it stands it's wrong but there won't be many who are bothered. Nice work 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 Thanks Beast for the information,your star ... cheers neil. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 The miniature arm which is clear should be red with a vertical white stripe, as it stands it's wrong but there won't be many who are bothered. Nice work Ooer look at this.. https://www.flickr.com/photos/ingythewingy/8660153227/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted May 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2016 Ooer look at this.. https://www.flickr.com/photos/ingythewingy/8660153227/ I've stood on that bridge ! Controlled locally from a lever frame, I think it was on private sidings and therefore down to their whims rather than railway rules. This section closed when the new connection opened in the early 1980s. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2016 Ooer look at this.. https://www.flickr.com/photos/ingythewingy/8660153227/ ooops! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trog Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 If you want weird there used to be a signal arm in Rugby bolted to the top of a manual OHL switch gear control, Moving the ground level handle rotated the signal arm from facing down the track to edge on. I think it was used for controlling movements into the cement works. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 That is interesting one "Beast66606" thanks for posting it up Ive tried reading up on different semaphores,but find it to be "dark" area... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted June 5, 2017 Author Share Posted June 5, 2017 Ive been making semaphore handrails from garden centre "steel fine" mesh... very easy to cut and glue in with super glue.. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 Few more handrail glued in tonight... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxokid Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Ive been busy making few more semaphores for Banks road now... And converting few electric motored Dapols ones.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxokid Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Ive made start on the twin track gantry,stil a lot more to add to this before its finished... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailWest Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 I'm not familiar with LMS practice but - ought not the 'Rule 55' diamond go below the lower arm on the LH doll, as surely it must apply to both the arms for that line? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted October 20, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) On 13/10/2019 at 04:53, RailWest said: I'm not familiar with LMS practice but - ought not the 'Rule 55' diamond go below the lower arm on the LH doll, as surely it must apply to both the arms for that line? I think you're right, the diamond would be located for sighting purposes, for a train that had stopped at the signal. So having it up high is wrong. Usually, the diamond would be located on the LH post, but in this case it would be behind the ladder, so not the best place. So the most likely place is on the horizontal girder, on a black patch so that it doesn't hide amongst the white of the girder. There is a photo in LNWR Signalling of a diamond, mounted between the stop & distant arms, but this is on a low signal directly in front of a tunnel, so not up high. Edit to add Does the position of the diamond in relation to the distant matter, as the train won't be stopping there if the distant is at danger & the stop signal clear? Edited October 20, 2019 by kevinlms 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailWest Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 IMHO diamonds would be irrelevant in terms of distant signals, as trains would not normally be held at a distant. However, you do need to be careful in the placement of the diamond. Firstly, why are you providing a diamond anyway? Having answered that question, then does your answer apply to both the tracks that pass under the gantry? If the answer is 'yes' then both dolls need one, or else there could perhaps be a common one on the gantry itself applicable to both dolls. If the answer is 'no', that it applies only to the LH road, then the diamond needs to be on that doll not the gantry to indicate that it does NOT apply to the RH doll. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2019 On 12/10/2019 at 18:53, RailWest said: I'm not familiar with LMS practice but - ought not the 'Rule 55' diamond go below the lower arm on the LH doll, as surely it must apply to both the arms for that line? Yes and no - if we are pedantic about the wording rather than the position of the diamond. The diamond actually indicates a modification of Rule 55 (as it once was) because there is a track circuit in rear of (or in some cases a Call Plunger at) that signal. Therefore it applies to 'the signal' - which in this case consists of a running arm and a subsidiary and the Rule modification therefore applies to both. So the diamond should be below both arms and, as already noted only needs to be seen when a train or movement is standing at the signal, so no need for distant sighting etc. On a splitting signal remember that the diamond applies to that signal and the line in rear of it - irrespective of how many routes it might lead to with various additional dolls. Therefore the diamond on a bracket structure should on the main upright which carries all the dolls. On a gantry structure, with no common upright adjacent to the line the signals referred to the usual approach on the LMR seems to have been to put a diamond on each doll but no doubt 'Signal Engineer' can offer a more positive answer on that. Distant Signals - other than lower arm distants - were/are signals where Rule 55/its modern equivalent does not apply because a train need not be stopped at a Distant Signal showing caution. When there is a lower arm distant below a stop signal then practice for positioning the diamond varied but again we come back to the point that the diamond only needs to be seen at relatively close range so logically it can be mounted quite low unless (as mentioned above) other circumstances come into play) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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