R3289 Network Rail Class 37 TTS

[ruggedpeak]

Vanished, gone, disappeared. Not a trace.

 

It has suddenly vanished from the Hornby website completely. Went to check for updates as SWMBO was going to get it for my Xmas, and there is no trace. Hattons are still saying due 12 December and taking pre-orders.

 

Not impressed.

[robf]

I noticed that as well.  I guess it will now be in the 2015 range announced on Wednesday.

[ruggedpeak]

And I can't replace it with a Bachmann DRS 37 as they haven't shipped either

 

My local model shop still had the Oxford Land Rover transporter and trailer sets in stock last time I was there so might go for one of those instead.

[Multiple identity account]

None of the TTS Diesel locomotives are listed, have you ever thought of a small website glitch to be the cause of the problem? Anyways I'm sure news about them will be heard soon.

PS: I never trust Hatton's dates anyways. Hornby have already been very forthcoming about the dates themselves recently.

[mark walker]

All the TTS Diesels were removed from the Trade Website a few weeks ago and we were informed they would now be carried over to 2015.

hi saw it on the Hornby stand at Warley. sounds good, the guy said it would be out by the end of year. Edited December 15, 2014 by mark walker

[ruggedpeak]

Have to see what happens on Wednesday.  

[Multiple identity account]

hi saw it on the Hornby stand at Warley. sounds good, the guy said it would be out by the end of year.

Any videos of the TTS diesels?

[Ryde-on-time]

A couple of weeks ago Hornby released expected dates for several items here

 

http://www.Hornby.com/news/Hornby-sea-day-2014/

 

It gives 13th Feb 2015 for the TTS 37. As the date is so close it must be virtually in production so one would have thought the date would be reasonably accurate?

[Multiple identity account]

A couple of weeks ago Hornby released expected dates for several items here

 

http://www.Hornby.com/news/Hornby-sea-day-2014/

 

It gives 13th Feb 2015 for the TTS 37. As the date is so close it must be virtually in production so one would have thought the date would be reasonably accurate?

Recently when I had a chat with a Hornby rep regarding the TTS Class 37 (because Hornby used the incorrect tooling) I was told it was too late (despite my previous warning) as the Class 37 was already in production.

[Hroth]

I was hoping for the Railroad Type 40 TTS, supposedly due last September...

 

Most recent date I heard of for that was July 2015. (AND it was a pre-order now item on the Hornby website...)

Edited December 16, 2014 by Hroth

[Ryde-on-time]

I was hoping for the Railroad Type 40 TTS, supposedly due last September...

 

Most recent date I heard of for that was July 2015. (AND it was a pre-order now item on the Hornby website...)

The link above to the Hornby statement given a couple of weeks ago gives a due date for the tts 40 of 28 feb

[Ryde-on-time]

I was hoping for the Railroad Type 40 TTS, supposedly due last September...

 

Most recent date I heard of for that was July 2015. (AND it was a pre-order now item on the Hornby website...)

The link above to the Hornby statement given a couple of weeks ago gives a due date for the tts 40 of 28 feb

[sdw7300]

I have one on order too. At Warley show Simon Kolher promised a pre Christmas delivery but last week the Hornby website was saying 14 Feb.

 

The cynic in me wonders if Hornby will "re-announce" it in the 2015 range today with a new "R" number & higher price allowing all the pre-orders to be cancelled. I really hope not.....

[brushman47544]

Talking of Railroad Class 40s, wasn't there a diorama photo in a Hornby catalogue a few years ago of a namer in blue without headcode discs. I wonder if that will ever be announced.

[sdw7300]

I have one on order too. At Warley show Simon Kolher promised a pre Christmas delivery but last week the Hornby website was saying 14 Feb.

 

The cynic in me wonders if Hornby will "re-announce" it in the 2015 range today with a new "R" number & higher price allowing all the pre-orders to be cancelled. I really hope not.....

 

Thankfully my inner cynic was wrong - it is now back on the Hornby website with a "Q1 2015" Expected date at the original RRP £84.99. http://www.Hornby.com/locomotives/tts-digital-sound-locomotives/railroad-network-rail-class-37-with-tts-sound.html

[ruggedpeak]

Having had my stab in the dark prediction of the re-release of the Flying Banana come true, I've dropped the 37TTS and will go for the Banana instead! Looks like August though.

 

For Xmas the 37 is being replaced a Black Friday 153 I ordered and forgot to mention to SWMBO..............

[Hroth]

I'll put my cynical head away for christmas (time for pre-ghost Scrooge) and hope that the 40 emerges at the end of February!  I hadn't seen the "sea-day" link before and I couldn't recall if I'd heard about the July date before or after the link emerged....

 

Oh well.....

[Steve-e]

I received an update from Hattons saying the TTS class 37 is due in stock on 04th Feb 2015

 

http://www.ehattons.com/69467/Hornby_R3289TTS_Class_97_97301_in_Network_Rail_livery_with_TTS_Sound_Railroad_range/StockDetail.aspx

 

Which does tie up with Hornby's prediction of 01st Feb 2015

 

http://www.Hornby.com/railroad-network-rail-class-37-with-tts-sound.html

 

be interesting to see how this sounds.

 

 

Cheers

Edited January 3, 2015 by Steve-e

[ruggedpeak]

Early Feb would be good timing for me, so fingers crossed.

[jjb1970]

The TTS models offer remarkable value for money. Although the old Lima tooling for the diesel models is basic with none of the refinements expected of new tooling they are still pretty good representations of the prototype, they run very well with the Hornby mechanism which is in a different world to the old Lima pancake and £85 for a DCC fitted sound equipped model is almost too good to be true. My little lad got a Hornby Railroad RES 47 in his Christmas trainset and despite the age of the tooling it looks like a 47 and for the trainset market the basic all moulded quality actually becomes a bit of a virtue. OK the sound system may not be as good as high end sound systems but for many enthusiasts I suspect it will be considered pretty good at the price, whilst for the trainset market I think it'll be a transformational product.

[black and decker boy]

The TTS models offer remarkable value for money. Although the old Lima tooling for the diesel models is basic with none of the refinements expected of new tooling they are still pretty good representations of the prototype, they run very well with the Hornby mechanism which is in a different world to the old Lima pancake and £85 for a DCC fitted sound equipped model is almost too good to be true. My little lad got a Hornby Railroad RES 47 in his Christmas trainset and despite the age of the tooling it looks like a 47 and for the trainset market the basic all moulded quality actually becomes a bit of a virtue. OK the sound system may not be as good as high end sound systems but for many enthusiasts I suspect it will be considered pretty good at the price, whilst for the trainset market I think it'll be a transformational product.

I agree. The TTS models should grow the market for DCC and DCC Sound in a market sector that probably has shied away due to cost and perceived complexity up until now. Finescale / perfectionists will wail about accuracy of the model, fidelity of the sound etc but they aren't the target for these models. As an entry level model, they appear perfect.

[jjb1970]

I think it'll be interesting to see what TTS does for entry level digital systems. I think it is a bit odd that many are intimidated by digital and see it as horribly complex when in fact it makes wiring a layout much easier and after a few minutes of use it is easy to get used to controls. One problem at the lower end must be price, people will look at the extra cost of a DCC chip and also for the train set market even a basic DCC controller is probably seen as being very expensive. Some of the higher end DCC suppliers and specialists do not help either by using a lot of jargon and making it look a lot more complicated than it need be. There are some good basic DCC systems, despite some negative comment I'm finding Hornby Railmaster and E-Link very good, as a standalone DCC setup the Prodigy Express from MRC/Gaugemaster is a good, solid system which is probably good enough for most trainset type layouts and won't break the bank. I think TTS may be a real shove for the digital market at the lower/entry level of the market.

[Leicester Thumper]

I will admit, I can't wait to see what the impact on the market will be like with the TTS range.

 

In comparison, a moderate to high end sound quality fitted model all set up and ready to go can cost the best part of £300, so really the premise of an affordable sub 100 quid model with fitted DCC and sound is actually a steal. It is about time that the hobby did have something affordable* to attract those on limited budgets, beginners and veterens alike.

 

Despite the molding being ex Lima, as has been said already, the detail still isn't too bad on that moulding. One has to remember, this does open opportunities for detailing the models and customising them and provides a base for beginners to pick up the glue and tweezers and add some pipe details and nameplates. All round, its an affordable option, its a good step to take into the hobby and the appeal is there. I say Hornby are on to a winner with this.

 

*when I say affordable I mean In the modern context, as compared to the prices of other locos and items of rolling stock. Affordable to me is buying a carriage for no more than about 13 quid!! (Then again I'm 22 and still remember only paying 45 quid for a class 110 DMU new in its box!!)

[RAF96]

I agree with post #23 above about TTS and entry level DCC systems but as TTS has 2 channels - a background engine noise and as many as 25 other function options on the diesels, less on the steamers.

The Hornby Select in particular cannot actuate as many functions as this.

The Hornby eLink (with Railmaster) can so do, as can the Hornby Elite.

Other manufacturers systems I have no experience of so cannot comment.

Rob 

[Stevelewis]

I think it'll be interesting to see what TTS does for entry level digital systems. I think it is a bit odd that many are intimidated by digital and see it as horribly complex when in fact it makes wiring a layout much easier and after a few minutes of use it is easy to get used to controls. One problem at the lower end must be price, people will look at the extra cost of a DCC chip and also for the train set market even a basic DCC controller is probably seen as being very expensive. Some of the higher end DCC suppliers and specialists do not help either by using a lot of jargon and making it look a lot more complicated than it need be. There are some good basic DCC systems, despite some negative comment I'm finding Hornby Railmaster and E-Link very good, as a standalone DCC setup the Prodigy Express from MRC/Gaugemaster is a good, solid system which is probably good enough for most trainset type layouts and won't break the bank. I think TTS may be a real shove for the digital market at the lower/entry level of the market.

I quite  agree  with  all the  above,  having  been  into  digital  since  around '98  I find  that  when  i  am  building  a  layout  I automatically  assume  it  will be  digital,   when  recently  assisting  with  a   friend  building a  new  layout  in  Analogue  i  actually  found  I  had  to  think  hard  re  the  wiring,  since  then  I  think  he  has  seen  the  light and is  changing  his  mind.

 

What  gets me  thoughh sometimes  when  reading  articles  in  the  Railway Modeller  about  layout,   the  text  seems  to  talk in "Hushed  tones"  when  they  mention  it  is  a  digital  layout., as  though  there  are not  many such layouts  around!!!!

 

Talking  of  low  priced Sound  equiped  digital locos,  Bachmann's  range  of  USA locos  with  sound  are  readily  available  for  less than  £100 ( see Hattons Bachmann USA H0) and  they  are  very  good  both  performance  and  sound  wise.

Edited January 6, 2015 by Stevelewis