Multiple identity account Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Can't wait to see even further samples of it..... This is a rapid prototyped model (as it can be clearly seen from the layering effect and clouded windows. Looking forward to this release from Hornby next year. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublecee Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 For purely obvious and selfish reasons, this makes me smile 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 For purely obvious and selfish reasons, this makes me smile I'm surely buying one of these from Hornby.... will remember that smile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Hmmm , it actually looked better in CAD format IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted February 20, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 20, 2015 It hasn't made me cancel my DJM version, that's for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadyneman Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 If it retails at a sensible price.. I will have one, if not, it will stay in the shop! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 20, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20, 2015 Still a good way off if that image is anything to go by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublecee Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 It's a really bad photo of an otherwise nice looking early prototype. Hopefully it will fair better in Andy Y's light box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Nice to see progress being made, nice looking pan as well. Cheers Shane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 From Hornby Magazine's facebook page, looks a lot better in the light. It has the usual quality of a 3D print, I assume the final production model will be far more superior will all the bells and whistles added. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Well it certainly looks like a 71. Cheers Shane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hawkins Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Well, that picture has made my mind up for me....... I want one :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapford34102 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) Looks good. I don't think the colour does it any favours, a pity they didn't give it a coat of grey primer. Stu Edited February 25, 2015 by lapford34102 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I hadn't really thought about the pantograph (as they so seldom used). Having now thought a bit about it, I really don't know whether an "operating" pantograph would be worth it. I THINK that i would probably prefer a fine quality fixed (in down position) pantograph rather than a poor quality working one. Interesting. On such a plain model the pantograph may (???????) rather stand out as a centre of attention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
51E Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I hadn't really thought about the pantograph (as they so seldom used). Having now thought a bit about it, I really don't know whether an "operating" pantograph would be worth it. I THINK that i would probably prefer a fine quality fixed (in down position) pantograph rather than a poor quality working one. Interesting. On such a plain model the pantograph may (???????) rather stand out as a centre of attention. Is that not just a step backwards? For starters it hardly looks a poor quality working one on the prototype model, but why make it a fix position pantograph if the options there to have a working one? It might seem a lot of work or a unnecessary expense to some but I think other would expect the pantograph to be movable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted February 25, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2015 51E, on 25 Feb 2015 - 11:03, said: Is that not just a step backwards? For starters it hardly looks a poor quality working one on the prototype model, but why make it a fix position pantograph if the options there to have a working one? It might seem a lot of work or a unnecessary expense to some but I think other would expect the pantograph to be movable. OLE is a "difficult" area for many modellers, but OLE for 71s is obscure in the extreme being only found in the small number of yards and siding complexes that these locos visited. I am not sure whether a working pan will add much value for most modellers. A pan that can be raised and lowered is another matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRUNFOS Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Bring on the 74! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted February 25, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2015 Bring on the 74! Quite agree. A 71 is of no interest but a 74 is another matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted February 25, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2015 Is that not just a step backwards? For starters it hardly looks a poor quality working one on the prototype model, but why make it a fix position pantograph if the options there to have a working one? It might seem a lot of work or a unnecessary expense to some but I think other would expect the pantograph to be movable. Have Hornby said it is going to be a working Pantograph (and by working do you mean electrically or just pose-able)? There might be some misconception from the prototype which had some etched pantograph parts mated with 3D printed lower arms. I don't doubt that this is just friction holding the pantograph in place. The difference in costs between fixed position and pose-able pantograph must be relatively small. Cheers, Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
51E Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) Have Hornby said it is going to be a working Pantograph (and by working do you mean electrically or just pose-able)? There might be some misconception from the prototype which had some etched pantograph parts mated with 3D printed lower arms. I don't doubt that this is just friction holding the pantograph in place. The difference in costs between fixed position and pose-able pantograph must be relatively small. Cheers, Mike Sorry Mike, I meant it being just a pose-able Pantogragh, Not that I think it would take a lot to make it a electrically working one. I don't think it matters if the pantograph was used much or not on a Class 71. Its there and should be pose-able. I still think it would be a step backwards to not make it pose-able. Lots of people seem to shout and moan about pushing detail forward or do pantographs not fall into that category?? Edited February 25, 2015 by 51E Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublecee Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Well it certainly looks like a 71. Cheers Shane Yep! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I think they should build it with a working flywheel booster like the prototype for getting over gaps in the third rail (or dodgy point blades with poor contact). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadyneman Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Sorry Mike, I meant it being just a pose-able Pantogragh, Not that I think it would take a lot to make it a electrically working one. I don't think it matters if the pantograph was used much or not on a Class 74. Its there and should be pose-able. I still think it would be a step backwards to not make it pose-able. Lots of people seem to shout and moan about pushing detail forward or do pantographs not fall into that category?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadyneman Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 The real class 71s only ever used the pantograph in sidings anyway so unless you were going to model sidings with DC overhead knitting It really is irrelevant if it's going to be electrically conducting or not. A 71 would not run under 25k knitting. Incidentally, the class 74 referred to above didn't have a pantograph. It was a conversion to electro diesel from the class 71 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidH Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I think they probably know that 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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