Greengiant Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) What's The Yard?The Yard is a layout four of us started building last October to be exhibited this weekend at the Orpington model railway show.Scenic area is only 6’ x 2.5’ with 18” fiddle yards each end. The main feature of the layout is a fully working gantry crane, fed with loads via standard gauge and narrow gauge wagons along with radio controlled lorries. The layout is still a WIP but with enough done to give a good idea of the final aim. We cannot deny to not being inspired by the marvelous layouts of Giles and pinched some of his ideas and put our twist on them. We also believe our overall method of presentation has put a different slant to the norm, only time will tell if we have succeeded. From the outset we wanted a layout that was viable for one day shows, or for further afield two day shows with one car and small trailer. After the show there will be a full SBS thread on the construction of the layout on RMWEB. Martin Edited January 10, 2018 by Greengiant 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 I'm deeply looking forward to seeing it, as if you've seen Martin's other layouts, you'll appreciate his modelling is superb! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 Prior to it's visitation to 'The Yard', I've just up-graded the battery from 320mAh, which gave about 5 1/2 hours exhibition use, to a 650mAh battery, which should give 10 hours. All day.. This will make a lot of difference, particularly if I convert the Ford as well. Sadly, the crane already has a 650mAh battery in, but only lasts about 5 1/2 hours due to all the oyher motors running so frequently. I've only very recently found a battery of this capacity this flat (about 3mm) Bedford TK battery by giles favell, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greengiant Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Looking forward to seeing how this gets round The Yard, some manouvres will be tight, one piece of wall will be moveable if space is an issue. Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) Prior to it's visitation to 'The Yard', I've just up-graded the battery from 320mAh, which gave about 5 1/2 hours exhibition use, to a 650mAh battery, which should give 10 hours. All day.. This will make a lot of difference, particularly if I convert the Ford as well. Sadly, the crane already has a 650mAh battery in, but only lasts about 5 1/2 hours due to all the oyher motors running so frequently. I've only very recently found a battery of this capacity this flat (about 3mm)Bedford TK battery by giles favell, on Flickr Hi Giles, Like you (if Ive read your comments correctly) Ive come to the conclusion that quality connectors are key wth LiPo and LiIon. Could you tell me where you buy your connectors from/the brand and what brand of batteries you use? Also how do you stop any shorts when connecting up? Or can such only apply to the charge circuit-thus not affect the battery? Thanks in anticipation. Kindest, CME. Edited January 11, 2018 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles Posted January 11, 2018 Author Share Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) I simply use unbranded 2.5mm mono jacks for charging, and a fairly neat (and incidentally cheap) socket on the vehicle. The socket is plastic bodied, which helps protect it, but importantly, it disconnects the receiver whilst charging. Similarly, by it's nature, the plug is unable to short the positive and negative of the socket when being inserted or extracted- thus protecting the battery. It's very effective and reliable, but it does take space. The only vehicle I have which doesn't use this system is the Bagnall, which has Microns magnetic connector. Very good, but there is a real danger that it might pick up something steel and short itself out, so I have another magnetic blanking plate to insulate against any accidental short. On a loco with more physical space I would have the charging point on a 'switched spur' for this reason. Here are the sockets. https://www.amazon.co.uk/sourcingmap®-Terminals-Female-Headphone-Socket/dp/B00HG8CTHQ/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1515689103&sr=8-16&keywords=2.5mm+jack+socket This appears to be the battery I've just fitted to the Bedford. Lots of lovely protection circuitry. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-7V-650mAh-Li-Po-Rechargeable-Battery-303759-F-PSP-MP3-MP4-Speaker-Selfie-Stick/182470901434?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D49129%26meid%3D4d6af079edbf49699bca7aef510c769c%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D121929272265&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851 Best, Giles Edited January 11, 2018 by Giles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) I simply use unbranded 2.5mm mono jacks for charging, and a fairly neat (and incidentally cheap) socket on the vehicle. The socket is plastic bodied, which helps protect it, but importantly, it disconnects the receiver whilst charging. Similarly, by it's nature, the plug is unable to short the positive and negative of the socket when being inserted or extracted- thus protecting the battery. It's very effective and reliable, but it does take space. The only vehicle I have which doesn't use this system is the Bagnall, which has Microns magnetic connector. Very good, but there is a real danger that it might pick up something steel and short itself out, so I have another magnetic blanking plate to insulate against any accidental short. On a loco with more physical space I would have the charging point on a 'switched spur' for this reason. Here are the sockets.https://www.amazon.co.uk/sourcingmap®-Terminals-Female-Headphone-Socket/dp/B00HG8CTHQ/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1515689103&sr=8-16&keywords=2.5mm+jack+socket This appears to be the battery I've just fitted to the Bedford. Lots of lovely protection circuitry.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-7V-650mAh-Li-Po-Rechargeable-Battery-303759-F-PSP-MP3-MP4-Speaker-Selfie-Stick/182470901434?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D49129%26meid%3D4d6af079edbf49699bca7aef510c769c%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D121929272265&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851 Best, Giles Hi Giles, Thanks so much for the informative and comprehensive reply, the Links too-all very much appreciated. May I ask, did you wire to a standard format (is there such a thing?), or go your own way with such? Kindest regards, CME Edited January 11, 2018 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles Posted January 11, 2018 Author Share Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) This is my wiring diagram for the lorries.... (and loco, apart from the steering servo) 2018-01-11_10-19-56 by giles favell, on Flickr Edited January 11, 2018 by Giles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 This is my wiring diagram for the lorries.... (and loco, apart from the steering servo)2018-01-11_10-19-56 by giles favell, on FlickrHi Giles, Thanks, very neat. I would like to do a lorry too sometime-when I get closer to scenery construction. With your diagram I can also think about RC for locos too, thanks for your advice and help today Giles, much appreciated, your models work very well, and Im grateful that you have shared your knowledge with us/me. Kindest regards and warm wishes, CME. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Looking forward to seeing how this gets round The Yard, some manouvres will be tight, one piece of wall will be moveable if space is an issue. Martin In real life, any wall is moveable if space is an issue for trucks!! There's just explaining it that causes all the problems... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otherplanet Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 I simply use unbranded 2.5mm mono jacks for charging, and a fairly neat (and incidentally cheap) socket on the vehicle. The socket is plastic bodied, which helps protect it, but importantly, it disconnects the receiver whilst charging. Similarly, by it's nature, the plug is unable to short the positive and negative of the socket when being inserted or extracted- thus protecting the battery. It's very effective and reliable, but it does take space. The only vehicle I have which doesn't use this system is the Bagnall, which has Microns magnetic connector. Very good, but there is a real danger that it might pick up something steel and short itself out, so I have another magnetic blanking plate to insulate against any accidental short. On a loco with more physical space I would have the charging point on a 'switched spur' for this reason. Here are the sockets.https://www.amazon.co.uk/sourcingmap®-Terminals-Female-Headphone-Socket/dp/B00HG8CTHQ/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1515689103&sr=8-16&keywords=2.5mm+jack+socket This appears to be the battery I've just fitted to the Bedford. Lots of lovely protection circuitry.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-7V-650mAh-Li-Po-Rechargeable-Battery-303759-F-PSP-MP3-MP4-Speaker-Selfie-Stick/182470901434?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D49129%26meid%3D4d6af079edbf49699bca7aef510c769c%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D121929272265&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851 Best, Giles In 00, with so much less space, I have been unable to find self-switching connectors. So use the very small jst Connectors. These are polarised to prevent incorrect orientation and fairly well insulated between the sockets. I use a single pole change over switch between the battery and the receiver / charge socket. This ensures the rx is never connected to the charger and there is no risk of metal getting into the connector and causing a short when driving. Its not perfect, but an improvement on not having the switched connector. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 The new 650mAh battery provided two solid and quite intensive exhibition days service on one charge! Absolutely great for us, and ghe logistics of the exhibition, and extremely impressive. Next job will be to see if I can fit one of these under the red one. It also makes me wonder if the Bagnall will also run for two days..... I suspect it might! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Sounds great Giles-thanks for keeping us informed. Ive started to order in some of the parts that you recommend. Kindest wishes with thanks, CME Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Giles Posted August 17, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) New loco to join the roster - a Neil Sayer Baldwin 50hp. Bought on Ebay in grey primer, but didn't run properly. Now fettled, but awaiting couplings, driver and decoder.... 2018-08-16_05-04-08 by giles favell, on Flickr IMG_2372 by giles favell, on Flickr And of course the Wren, which isn't really suited to this rough trackwork IMG_2384 by giles favell, on Flickr Edited August 17, 2018 by Giles 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Nice find Giles! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Beauties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Is the driver a 3D jobbie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 Yes indeed - ModelU of course.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 Just to prove the Wren actually works! As a reminder, it's a reworked Mark Clarke kit, with 5mm taken off the width of everything (except the saddle tank) to bring it down to the correct width. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 Contemplation... IMG_2403 (3) by giles favell, on Flickr While sorting a driver for the Baldwin, I sorted the other two figures. This one having a break, and another operating the transfer crane. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 (edited) More boring photos of the Baldwin now it's complete, glazed and with driver... IMG_2408A by giles favell, on Flickr IMG_2410 by giles favell, on Flickr Edited August 26, 2018 by Giles 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Not boring at all Giles! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 More boring photos of the Baldwin now it's complete, glazed and with driver... IMG_2408A by giles favell, on Flickr IMG_2410 by giles favell, on Flickr Beautiful modelling Giles, a lovely prototype too. Jinty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 No way is this boring! Loving it Giles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgood Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Its quite beautiful photography, too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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