deeslexia Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Hi mathmeticians- My motorised Corgi toy trams will run on OO track, so what gauge would that be? Not important, just curious!! Here is an open top tram with partial repaint, overlarge transferst and home made card/net upper deck from a broken double decker. Unlike the proper corgi open top trams, the fixing is the same as the double deck, with screws through the destination boards [as shown]. I am also making an open top canopy version by cutting up a fully enclosed tram. This means that I can swap tops on the motor tram when I can afford it ! The single deck trams are a closed front LT with metal roof taken from the repainted Southend tram behind, which has gained a card roof with broken top added! They need tidying, but I like the home made look. dee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 16.5mm x 64 = 1056mm So pretty much metre gauge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted March 4, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4, 2015 It's actually very close to 3ft 6in gauge, which was used by a number of UK tram systems: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_foot_six_inch_gauge_railways_in_the_United_Kingdom Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Yeah, 3' 6" is 1 066.8mm, so very close, and far more British! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted March 4, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2015 It's actually very close to 3ft 6in gauge, which was used by a number of UK tram systems: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_foot_six_inch_gauge_railways_in_the_United_Kingdom Pete Agreed. So it's a bit of a pity that those Corgi trams are in London livery. But a decent base from which to model other systems. Some of the 3'6" gauge lines were very interesting. Or the OP could model a tramway museum with trams running, as at Crich, on sleepered track. Sn3.5 track is available from Shinohara. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 S scale on 16.5 mm gauge is common in Australia to represent our extensive 3'6" gauge lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Copleston Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Dee, 1,067mm or 3' 6" gauge actually works out as 16.6mm in S scale. This is a common and convenient scale/gauge ratio for South African, Australian and New Zealand narrow gauge modelling in S scale, which employs HO (16.5mm) track and mechanical components. So your trams are near-enough running on 3' 6" gauge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeslexia Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 Sounds great, thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSB Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Sn3.5 track is available from Shinohara. Shinohara do Sn3 track but I have never heard of them doing Sn3.5! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted March 4, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4, 2015 Llandudno and Colwyn Bay would be a good subject for a tram layout. http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llandudno_and_Colwyn_Bay_Electric_Railway This was a 3' 6" gauge tramway that had street running, sea front service and its own right of way. It also operated almost every type of tram from toastracks to Blackpool style streamlined double deck trams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonB Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Llandudno and Colwyn Bay would be a good subject for a tram layout. http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llandudno_and_Colwyn_Bay_Electric_Railway This was a 3' 6" gauge tramway that had street running, sea front service and its own right of way. It also operated almost every type of tram from toastracks to Blackpool style streamlined double deck trams. I agree, it would be a good subject, and I'd like to see it modelled if only because I travelled on the last tram when the service closed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 The old City of Carlisle tramways are another possibility (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Carlisle_Electric_Tramways) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siltec Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Dover and District was 3'6". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stadman Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Westcountry systems were 3'6" Camborne and Redruth carried mineral as well as passenger traffic. Kev S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted August 15, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 15, 2015 All the Black Country tram system was 3'6" including the rural Kinver Light Railway http://www.qlhs.org.uk/oracle/kinver-railway/kinver-railway.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Please, please go for Northampton, because it had not only had what may well have been the first internal combustion locomotive in Britain, in 1883, but experimented with a tram powered by convicts pedalling. I promise, I did not make either of these things up; they are true! Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusDe Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 The Dunfermline and District Tramways Company was another extensive 3'6" system. Angus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I have been looking for these 1:64 trams on line, but the ads just seem to describe them as 00 without specifying the scale. Can anyone give a link to evidence showing that they are actually built to 1:64? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted August 15, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 15, 2015 All the Black Country tram system was 3'6" including the rural Kinver Light Railway http://www.qlhs.org.uk/oracle/kinver-railway/kinver-railway.htm There is an excellent book in the Oakwood series on the Kinver Light Railway that includes scale drawings of the stock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Copleston Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I have been looking for these 1:64 trams on line, but the ads just seem to describe them as 00 without specifying the scale. Can anyone give a link to evidence showing that they are actually built to 1:64? I've always thought these Corgi trams looked more 1:64 scale than to 1:76. I carry an S scale human figure in my wallet for such comparison purposes and I concluded that these trams look just about right when stood next to my figure. The packaging always says "00", as you might expect, as they are designed to run on 16.5mm gauge track - in other words, almost perfect for 3ft 6in trams in S scale! Anyway, I found this reference in an old posting by PLD from Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:53 pm, on the older RMweb site about the scale of these trams: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=28115 "There are two distinct Corgi ranges which are different scales so don't mix... If you are talking about the Corgi Classics 4 wheeled 'Traditional Trams' be aware that these are approx 1:64th scale (S Scale) so are oversize compared to the Blackpool cars and the Felthams in the 'Original Omnibus' range which are 1:76 = 4mm/ft = OO Scale." I suggest you try the same trick of comparing the tram models with an S scale figure and decide yourself what scale they are or whether they are acceptable as 1:64 trams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I carry an S scale human figure in my wallet for such comparison purposes Railway modellers odd? Never.... Says Tim, who has a 1/64 Fiat Panda on his bedside table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
28XX Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Just as sane as yours truly who appears to be writing an entire political, industrial and social history for a fictional county. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I suggest you try the same trick of comparing the tram models with an S scale figure and decide yourself what scale they are or whether they are acceptable as 1:64 trams. Thanks, I'll take your word for it. Regards and thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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