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#1 Andy Y

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Posted 26 March 2015 - 11:19

ICI Hoppers from Hatton's in Partnership with Oxford Rail
 
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Hatton’s are always looking for new ways to bring modellers the best and most sought after product possible and we are pleased
to announce our latest partnership with Oxford Rail. We will be producing the much requested and ever popular Northwich ICI
hopper wagon which ran from Peak Forest quarries to Northwich refineries delivering limestone. These wagons ran from the
1930’s, with steam traction, through to the 1990’s with all manner of diesel locomotives hauling them. They are instantly
recognisable with their rugged riveted bodies and plain grey livery which more often than not weathered to a dull brown very
quickly.
 
 
The wagons will feature everything you would expect from modern OO gauge rolling stock:
RP25 wheel profile with 3 hole wheels
NEM coupling pockets and tension lock couplings
Diamond frame bogies (1940’s)
Plate frame bogies (1950's onwards)
Ladders (where applicable)
Vacuum reservoirs, brake hoses and piping
Handbrake wheels
Raised ICI lettering (larger size)
Full rivet detail
Brake shoes in line with wheels
Pin point axles/axleboxes
Interior Hopper detail (doors etc)
Optional load for wagon (sold separately)
Etched metal ladders

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Posted 27 March 2015 - 10:15

Ooh. Always liked them. I suspect others do too, more than just those who need them for their layout's location. Good choice of prototype commercially I reckon

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Posted 27 March 2015 - 10:27

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Now can we have a separate Oxford Rail section ?


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Posted 27 March 2015 - 10:30

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Now can we have a separate Oxford Rail section ?

Or a Hattons one?  Interesting question isn't it - do things like this go under the commissioner's heading or under the 'manufacturer's'?


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#5 The Bigbee Line

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Posted 27 March 2015 - 10:42

Very interesting prototype, although I'd have trouble justifying them.  Serious question will they be offering a good price for bulk purchase, after all these are one of the first un-common wagons to run in block trains.


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Posted 27 March 2015 - 11:03

Wonder if Hattons would be temped to do a variation that would have run no more than 5 miles from their shop! John Summers & sons hoppers. 


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Posted 27 March 2015 - 11:15

Can't imagine Wild Boar models will be that impressed!

See: www.wildboarmodels.co.uk

Can't they choose something not available as a kit?
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Posted 27 March 2015 - 11:30

Perfect for N gauge too--how about it Hatton's?


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Posted 27 March 2015 - 11:36

OH MY ###### GOD!!!  :sungum:


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#10 87023Velocity

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Posted 27 March 2015 - 11:57

Hmmm,

 

Think I may be having some of those! :sungum:

 

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Posted 27 March 2015 - 12:04

Just had a look on the Hattons site and there are 20 versions available to pre order covering mid grey, dark grey pre TOPS and dark grey TOPS with the later having options for non ICI branded types. There are also several weathered versions planned. For a potentially complex model and a retailer commission, the advertised price ios somewhat startling at £24 for the pristine versions and £25 for the weathered ones. One of my all time favourite weagons, although limited in geographical use, but long lasting. Was tempted by the Wild Boar model, but the sample on their website lacked rivet detail, so I held back



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Posted 27 March 2015 - 12:05

Iirc an 8F hauled a rake of these through Northwich during and open day around 1980.

Prototype for everything as they say.

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Posted 27 March 2015 - 12:24

Interesting left field announcement.  Despite the limited field of operation with that length of service they should be quite popular.  I might even be tempted myself, although they would be very off route in the Black Country...


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Posted 27 March 2015 - 12:46

The price seems very competitive, a guaranteed pre-order price of £24 or £25 weathered (not an estimated price which they reserve the right to change)

 

Will be interesting to see what the Oxford factory weathering will look like?



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Posted 27 March 2015 - 12:47

 

Hatton’s & Oxford Rail OO Gauge ICI Hopper (PHV) Press Release
 
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Hatton’s are always looking for new ways to bring modellers the best and most sought after product possible and we are pleased
to announce our latest partnership with Oxford Rail. We will be producing the much requested and ever popular Northwich ICI
hopper wagon which ran from Peak Forest quarries to Northwich refineries delivering limestone. These wagons ran from the
1930’s, with steam traction, through to the 1990’s with all manner of diesel locomotives hauling them. They are instantly
recognisable with their rugged riveted bodies and plain grey livery which more often than not weathered to a dull brown very
quickly.
 
 
The wagons will feature everything you would expect from modern OO gauge rolling stock:
RP25 wheel profile with 3 hole wheels
NEM coupling pockets and tension lock couplings
Diamond frame bogies (1940’s)
Plate frame bogies (1950's onwards)
Ladders (where applicable)
Vacuum reservoirs, brake hoses and piping
Handbrake wheels
Raised ICI lettering (larger size)
Full rivet detail
Brake shoes in line with wheels
Pin point axles/axleboxes
Interior Hopper detail (doors etc)
Optional load for wagon (sold separately)
Etched metal ladders

 

Typical, just as my castings arrive!

Ah well, look forward to the RTR Model.

 

Wild Boar Fell


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Posted 27 March 2015 - 13:03

Agree with with comment the John summers hoppers would be great for my planned layout not a great deal of difference so lets hope would max the mouldings


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Posted 27 March 2015 - 13:14

If you only have space or budget for one, Derby Research might be an excuse - see my photo in this thread of one at Sileby near Loughborough on test from Derby.

 

Anyone know where they were overhauled?


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Posted 27 March 2015 - 14:12

Just when someone in our club has designed a decent etch for these....

 

only question.. when?

Chapel en Le Frith needs two trains of these by the end of October this year.....so when will they arrive?

 

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Posted 27 March 2015 - 14:38

Looks like these are heading for ebay then!

 

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Nice choice of prototype


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Posted 27 March 2015 - 14:42

I wonder if they will make  a Southern Pacific version :jester:


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Posted 27 March 2015 - 14:42

Are these the hoppers that used to work to Miles Platting in the 70s and 80s?

 

 

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Posted 27 March 2015 - 14:45

Might be stating the ******** obvious, but these vehicles ran in quite large trains, not as singletons. As there is quite a lot of detail in them they aren't going to cost less than £30 each. The eleven wagon train above will therefore cost £330! If you want empties and loaded, £660!

Now I'm a CLC freak, started my spotting at Northenden c1950, but these are not for the faint hearted branch line enthusiast, not at all.

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Posted 27 March 2015 - 15:07

Cost of £25 has already been stated above so not as bad as you think. I have just ordered 8 for just under £200.
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Posted 27 March 2015 - 16:05

John Summers. Complete train of 11 wagons urgently needed. £275 . Please  Hattons .  It is obvious already that there will be a good demand for Summer's wagons especially at that price .

. Pulled by a  weathered 9 f .would look superb. 


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Posted 27 March 2015 - 16:07

Cost of £25 has already been stated above so not as bad as you think. I have just ordered 8 for just under £200.

 

£25 for the weathered version, £24 for the pristine. Have ordered 7 myself and may add more. Hopefully we wont have to wait too long for them. Can't wait personally. 









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