Andy Y Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 ICI Hoppers from Hatton's in Partnership with Oxford Rail Image previously uploaded to RMweb - Copyright Coachmann - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_08_2011/post-6680-0-25114900-1312552423_thumb.jpg Hatton’s are always looking for new ways to bring modellers the best and most sought after product possible and we are pleased to announce our latest partnership with Oxford Rail. We will be producing the much requested and ever popular Northwich ICI hopper wagon which ran from Peak Forest quarries to Northwich refineries delivering limestone. These wagons ran from the 1930’s, with steam traction, through to the 1990’s with all manner of diesel locomotives hauling them. They are instantly recognisable with their rugged riveted bodies and plain grey livery which more often than not weathered to a dull brown very quickly. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/p920830964/e5e466d54 The wagons will feature everything you would expect from modern OO gauge rolling stock: RP25 wheel profile with 3 hole wheels NEM coupling pockets and tension lock couplings Diamond frame bogies (1940’s) Plate frame bogies (1950's onwards) Ladders (where applicable) Vacuum reservoirs, brake hoses and piping Handbrake wheels Raised ICI lettering (larger size) Full rivet detail Brake shoes in line with wheels Pin point axles/axleboxes Interior Hopper detail (doors etc) Optional load for wagon (sold separately) Etched metal ladders 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Ooh. Always liked them. I suspect others do too, more than just those who need them for their layout's location. Good choice of prototype commercially I reckon Edited March 27, 2015 by Talltim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 . Now can we have a separate Oxford Rail section ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2015 . Now can we have a separate Oxford Rail section ? Or a Hattons one? Interesting question isn't it - do things like this go under the commissioner's heading or under the 'manufacturer's'? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Very interesting prototype, although I'd have trouble justifying them. Serious question will they be offering a good price for bulk purchase, after all these are one of the first un-common wagons to run in block trains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RA & FC Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Wonder if Hattons would be temped to do a variation that would have run no more than 5 miles from their shop! John Summers & sons hoppers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Can't imagine Wild Boar models will be that impressed! See: www.wildboarmodels.co.uk Can't they choose something not available as a kit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted March 27, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 27, 2015 Perfect for N gauge too--how about it Hatton's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted March 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2015 OH MY GOD!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
87023Velocity Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Hmmm, Think I may be having some of those! Cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Just had a look on the Hattons site and there are 20 versions available to pre order covering mid grey, dark grey pre TOPS and dark grey TOPS with the later having options for non ICI branded types. There are also several weathered versions planned. For a potentially complex model and a retailer commission, the advertised price ios somewhat startling at £24 for the pristine versions and £25 for the weathered ones. One of my all time favourite weagons, although limited in geographical use, but long lasting. Was tempted by the Wild Boar model, but the sample on their website lacked rivet detail, so I held back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Iirc an 8F hauled a rake of these through Northwich during and open day around 1980. Prototype for everything as they say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Interesting left field announcement. Despite the limited field of operation with that length of service they should be quite popular. I might even be tempted myself, although they would be very off route in the Black Country... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ryde-on-time Posted March 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2015 The price seems very competitive, a guaranteed pre-order price of £24 or £25 weathered (not an estimated price which they reserve the right to change) Will be interesting to see what the Oxford factory weathering will look like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Boar Fell Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Hatton’s & Oxford Rail OO Gauge ICI Hopper (PHV) Press Release Image previously uploaded to RMweb - Copyright Coachmann - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_08_2011/post-6680-0-25114900-1312552423_thumb.jpg Hatton’s are always looking for new ways to bring modellers the best and most sought after product possible and we are pleased to announce our latest partnership with Oxford Rail. We will be producing the much requested and ever popular Northwich ICI hopper wagon which ran from Peak Forest quarries to Northwich refineries delivering limestone. These wagons ran from the 1930’s, with steam traction, through to the 1990’s with all manner of diesel locomotives hauling them. They are instantly recognisable with their rugged riveted bodies and plain grey livery which more often than not weathered to a dull brown very quickly. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/p920830964/e5e466d54 The wagons will feature everything you would expect from modern OO gauge rolling stock: RP25 wheel profile with 3 hole wheels NEM coupling pockets and tension lock couplings Diamond frame bogies (1940’s) Plate frame bogies (1950's onwards) Ladders (where applicable) Vacuum reservoirs, brake hoses and piping Handbrake wheels Raised ICI lettering (larger size) Full rivet detail Brake shoes in line with wheels Pin point axles/axleboxes Interior Hopper detail (doors etc) Optional load for wagon (sold separately) Etched metal ladders Typical, just as my castings arrive! Ah well, look forward to the RTR Model. Wild Boar Fell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Agree with with comment the John summers hoppers would be great for my planned layout not a great deal of difference so lets hope would max the mouldings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 If you only have space or budget for one, Derby Research might be an excuse - see my photo in this thread of one at Sileby near Loughborough on test from Derby. Anyone know where they were overhauled? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted March 27, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 27, 2015 Just when someone in our club has designed a decent etch for these.... only question.. when? Chapel en Le Frith needs two trains of these by the end of October this year.....so when will they arrive? Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Looks like these are heading for ebay then! Nice choice of prototype 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfsboy Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I wonder if they will make a Southern Pacific version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted March 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2015 Are these the hoppers that used to work to Miles Platting in the 70s and 80s? Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Might be stating the ******** obvious, but these vehicles ran in quite large trains, not as singletons. As there is quite a lot of detail in them they aren't going to cost less than £30 each. The eleven wagon train above will therefore cost £330! If you want empties and loaded, £660! Now I'm a CLC freak, started my spotting at Northenden c1950, but these are not for the faint hearted branch line enthusiast, not at all. Regards Edited March 27, 2015 by PenrithBeacon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spackz Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Cost of £25 has already been stated above so not as bad as you think. I have just ordered 8 for just under £200. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monjac Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 John Summers. Complete train of 11 wagons urgently needed. £275 . Please Hattons . It is obvious already that there will be a good demand for Summer's wagons especially at that price . . Pulled by a weathered 9 f .would look superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted March 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2015 Cost of £25 has already been stated above so not as bad as you think. I have just ordered 8 for just under £200. £25 for the weathered version, £24 for the pristine. Have ordered 7 myself and may add more. Hopefully we wont have to wait too long for them. Can't wait personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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