RMweb Premium ColinK Posted August 9, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 9, 2017 Many thanks everyone for the kind words on my videos. The positive feedback makes it worthwhile getting them digitised. You'll find them all under the 'ColinK's videos' thread. I've had to reduce the quality of all the videos posted to make the file sizes manageable, I've actually got them in HD on my computer. I've sent three more cine reels off for digitising, think they may be of interest too, but they won't be back until October. When I've got all the cine films done, I've got 25,000 slides to scan! As for the brakevan on the rear of the class 20 hauled hopper train, I'm not sure why it was there. But I think the use of the 20s was short lived. Perhaps someone else can advise. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Thanks for sharing the videos Colin good to see some I.C.I. Hopper workings. And the blue 37 shunting those wagons at Peak Forest was fun proper rough shunting they certainly don't do that anymore! As for the 20s with brakevans this seems to have been tied in with the use of pairs with the hoppers from the trials in 1982 through to their introduction from May 1984. The roadstone services to Portwood, Collyhurst street and Dean Lane all used brakevans due to the shunting moves at each terminal. But I've never heard why they used brakevans with the 20s. I would have to check my hopper photos to see if any other Northwich hoppers used brakevans around that type with 47s or pairs of 37s. HTH Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Brilliant videos Colin. Thanks so much for posting them. Just a quick question - I noticed that the 2 x 20 hauled ICI hopper train had a brake van on the rear. Was this a regular occurance at the time? Yes..... if memory serves me right it wasn't uncommon in my 'yoof' The sweet spot for me seeing the train would be '76-'83. Invariably a 25. Very occasionally a 40. Almost always 18 hoppers? Any one else help me/correct me? We also regulalry saw the Soda Ash 16 tonners. ICI 'Mond Division' Normally 40 odd wagons and almost always a 40 on that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted August 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2017 Hi, I've posted this video elsewhere, but have added it here as it includes trains of ICI stone hoppers at Peak Forest and Great Rocks Junction - fast forward to 5mins 30 seconds. https://vimeo.com/227893834 Hi Colin, Sorry to hijack the thread everyone, but superb quality fine Colin! What camera and film were you using? Super8? Should give plenty of inspiration for the forthcoming hoppers! Many thanks everyone for the kind words on my videos. The positive feedback makes it worthwhile getting them digitised. You'll find them all under the 'ColinK's videos' thread. Just watched the first three on your Vimeo page (click on the 'v' on the video player for anyone that doesn't know. Wonderful nostalgia! I was 6!!! Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted August 10, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 10, 2017 Many thanks for your nice words Rich. The film was taken on a Super 8 sound cine camera. I'm amazed the film has lasted so long. Given all the comments, I'm thinking of upgrading my Vimeo account so I can post future videos in HD. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 A smashing video to watch after brekky.....It was unusual for cine photographers to take long shots of whole trains passing due to the cost of film. You have captured a 'lost' era that just preceded the arrival of affordable video camcorders in the late 1980's. Great material Colin and in an area I knew well as a stills photographer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tetsudofan Posted August 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2017 Off topic but just watched Colin's fantastic video, must say its one of the best I've seen for ages. Many thanks Colin, just great. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Off topic but just watched Colin's fantastic video, must say its one of the best I've seen for ages. Many thanks Colin, just great. Keith Still off topic...but more 80s video from my mate Bruce (mainly in Scotland) quality is top notch. Enjoy!! https://www.youtube.com/user/jbg06003 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted August 10, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 10, 2017 Does anyone know how long the ICI hoppers will be i.e. Length in milimetres? Once I know that I can work out how many I need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Does anyone know how long the ICI hoppers will be i.e. Length in milimetres? Once I know that I can work out how many I need. Should be easy enough ...1:76 the length of a real one.....! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Does anyone know how long the ICI hoppers will be i.e. Length in milimetres? Once I know that I can work out how many I need. 12013mm over buffers = 157.65mm in 00 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterfgf Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Hi, I've posted this video elsewhere, but have added it here as it includes trains of ICI stone hoppers at Peak Forest and Great Rocks Junction - fast forward to 5mins 30 seconds. ColinK Thanks very much for taking the trouble to post this video. Peterfgf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Yes..... if memory serves me right it wasn't uncommon in my 'yoof' The sweet spot for me seeing the train would be '76-'83. Invariably a 25. Very occasionally a 40. Almost always 18 hoppers? Any one else help me/correct me? We also regulalry saw the Soda Ash 16 tonners. ICI 'Mond Division' Normally 40 odd wagons and almost always a 40 on that! Even when it had been agreed between BR and the Unions that guards could use the rear cab, Class 20s always had to have a brake-van, as the cabs weren't fitted with a valve to permit the guard to operate the train brakes independently of the loco brake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Thanks for clarifying that cheers. Paul Even when it had been agreed between BR and the Unions that guards could use the rear cab, Class 20s always had to have a brake-van, as the cabs weren't fitted with a valve to permit the guard to operate the train brakes independently of the loco brake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted August 15, 2017 Author Share Posted August 15, 2017 I had the chance to take a look at the ICI hoppers today at Hatton's. Some really nice detail to the wagons, especially the open chassis framing. They feel quite light but I'm assured they have run well through a variety of pointwork in testing. Expected mid-2018. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted August 15, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 15, 2017 Very nice..perhaps they can lend us the ones they have for use on Chapel en le Frith at STEAM, Leeds and Warley shows? While they look great they have had a very long development period compared to some of the other Hattons wagons. Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Mid-2018? They seemed further on than that. Ah well, they look well worth waiting for. Super looking wagons and reasonably priced too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted September 11, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2017 Word on the streets is these may be arriving in 2019.. Is that true Hattons Dave please? If it is we may just do our own and cancel our order. Not happy you can announce more new items when these seem to be on the slow road.... Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted September 11, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 11, 2017 Word on the streets is these may be arriving in 2019.. Is that true Hattons Dave please? If it is we may just do our own and cancel our order. Not happy you can announce more new items when these seem to be on the slow road.... Baz Morning Barry, Not sure where that has come from but I can assure you that these are still on target for a 2018 release. The schedule for this project is running on a separate timeline to any of the others as it is with a different supplier. Cheers, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted September 11, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2017 Dave thanks for that but 2018 is a long way off and we were hoping to have these by now. We are running 8 kit built ones but need 2 trains of 16 for our layout Chapel en le Frith (Members have pre-ordered a few of these from you). We may have to seriously rethink how we, in the club, approach this Baz 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bescotbeast Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Morning Barry, Not sure where that has come from but I can assure you that these are still on target for a 2018 release. The schedule for this project is running on a separate timeline to any of the others as it is with a different supplier. Cheers, Dave mid 2018, that gives me time to get my credit card cleared. Might have to dream up a reason for a Tunstead to Black Country working.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted September 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2017 Hi all, As promised, here's some images showing the weathering masters for our ICI wagons. As you can see, we have tried a few different styles of weathering on these particular models. We'd be keen to hear your thoughts on the various styles and, as ever, welcome feedback. Style 1: Style 2: Style 3: Cheers, Dave 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted September 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2017 Lovely. I'll have a "style 2" please. Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadnought05 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Seconded for the style 2, and a cheeky reminder to say there is interest in a 7mm version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J50 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 A definite for style 2 great work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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