A few of Dave F's European Railway Photos updated 16th January 2018

[eastwestdivide]

Love that last pic, J1022. The French wikipedia page describes them as "Surnommées « fers à repasser »" - nicknamed "irons" (as in ironing your clothes!).

[Fat Controller]

Love that last pic, J1022. The French wikipedia page describes them as "Surnommées « fers à repasser »" - nicknamed "irons" (as in ironing your clothes!).

The CC14000/14100 replaced Nord 2-10-0s and other steam on heavy freight along the entire north and east of France from Calais to Alsace; unfortunately, they had a maximum speed of only 50 kph, which made them a nuisance on lines with any sort of express passenger service. They, and their (faster) little sisters, the BB12000 and BB13000, were peculiar in that they had four driving positions. There were two for each direction of travel, one for the normal SNCF lines, with left-hand running, and one for the former Alsace-Lorraine lines, which were right-hand running. I'm told there were no seats for the driver, which must have added to their popularity amongst a group of people who love grumbling..

[hmrspaul]

In the summer of 1967 Mum, Dad and I went to France to stay with friends in St Avold, near Metz and not far from the German border.  Those were the days when you could only take a limited amount of sterling out of the country - something like £10 per person.  

 

 

David

 

David

 

I don't think the government was that mean, IIRC it was a limit of £50 in cash, so purchases in advance such as travel and package holiday accomodation wasn't restricted.

 

The CC14178 were lovely, I had forgotten them. Did you or your parents get any of the very large tank wagons that could be seen around Calais 0-10-0T & 2-10-2T

 

Lots of lovely memories in this thread

 

Paul

Edited April 9, 2015 by hmrspaul

[DaveF]

David

 

I don't think the government was that mean, IIRC it was a limit of £50 in cash, so purchases in advance such as travel and package holiday accomodation wasn't restricted.

 

The CC14178 were lovely, I had forgotten them. Did you or your parents get any of the very large tank wagons that could be seen around Calais 0-10-0T & 2-10-2T

 

Lots of lovely memories in this thread

 

Paul

 

Thanks Paul.

 

As far as I know there aren't any photos of the tank wagons.  

 

I do have quite a lot more photos of France in 1967 to post in due course, mainly locos on trains.

 

David

[flapland]

Also love J1022 which reminds me of a Pennsylvania Railroad gg1.  

[hmrspaul]

Thanks Paul.

 

As far as I know there aren't any photos of the tank wagons.  

 

I do have quite a lot more photos of France in 1967 to post in due course, mainly locos on trains.

 

David

Freudian slip, I meant locomotives!

 

I look forward to the others. Can I sneak in a link to my French railway photos, some taken much the same time as yours. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/sncflocomotives

 

Paul

[DaveF]

Freudian slip, I meant locomotives!

 

I look forward to the others. Can I sneak in a link to my French railway photos, some taken much the same time as yours. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/sncflocomotives

 

Paul

 

 

I did wonder about 0-10-0 tank wagons!

 

There are a few more of the 0-10-0T at Calais, but that's probably all.  The rest of the steam ones are probably 141Rs, I think there may be one of a 231G.

 

I like your French photos, I've just had a quick look and will study them carefully in due course.

 

David

Edited April 9, 2015 by DaveF

[DaveF]

When travelling to Europe on holiday with my car I sometimes used the DFDS route from North Shields to Esbjerg in Denmark. 

 

So here are a few Danish railway photos.

 

 

Esbjerg Class MY 1123 and 1146 13th Aug 92 C17847

 

 

Esbjerg dmu 4029 25th July 92 C17008

 

 

Esbjerg DSB IC3dmu 5207 and 5251 25th July 92 C17014

 

 

Humlebaek DSB Class EA 3017 Helsingor to Copenhagen 12th Aug 94 C19605

 

 

Varde Westerbanen dmu 82 18th Aug 94 C19750

 

 

David

[EddieB]

A change of film, Dave?  The colours look richer.  (Velvia, perhaps?).

[DaveF]

A change of film, Dave?  The colours look richer.  (Velvia, perhaps?).

 

 

From time to time I did use Fujichrome but I think these were on Agfachrome.   The light in Denmark can be quite nice (when it isn't blowing a gale!), the Esbjerg ones were taken in the late evening during walks after dinner at a hotel quite near the station, on the way to and from the ship at the start and end of a holiday, so they have warm evening light.

 

The 1994 photos were taken in awful weather, quite wet which can give very rich colours.

 

I think I worked on these with an older  monitor which may not have been set up quite as well for colour balance - these days I use a Spyder for colour balance on the monitor.

 

David

Edited April 10, 2015 by DaveF

[DaveF]

A visit to the former East Germany this evening in 1991, the first summer after reunification (which took place in October 1990) to look at the Harzquerbahn.  The metre gauge Harquerbahn has a main line which runs from Wernigerode to Nordhausen.  At the time these photos were taken the line from Drei Annen Hohne to The Brocken summit had not been reopened.  There is also the line from Eisfelder Talmuhle to Stiege, with routes to Hasselfelde, Harzgerode and Gernrode.  

 

I have photos of all these lines from the early 1990s which will appear in due course.

 

At this time British cars were still not seen very often, wherever I parked people came to say hello.

 

Wernigerode 99 232 4 DR 27th July 91 C16027

 

 

Wernigerode DR Class 99 27th July 91 J12119

 

 

Drei Annen Hohne 99 7231 6 DR to Schierke 27th July 91 C16011

 

 

Drei Annen Hohne DR 99 7234 0 Wernigerode to Nordhausen 27th July 91 C16004

 

 

Allerbach 99 7222 5 to Nordhausen 27th July 91 C15994

 

David

[EddieB]

 

At this time British cars were still not seen very often, wherever I parked people came to say hello.

 

 

Seen even less frequently when I first visited East Germany in 1978.  People would stop and stare in puzzlement through the windows of our parked Ford Escort with its steering wheel on the wrong side.  Like you say, most people we encountered were friendly - one family went out of their way to lead us to a garage after we'd suffered a puncture.

 

Things came to a head when we were pulled over for doing 82kph on a 80kph dual carriageway near Halle.  My mum was beckoned forth from the front passenger seat for a lecture on the perils of speeding.  No further action, but you should have seen their faces when we returned to the car and they realised she wasn't driving!

[DaveF]

Some photos from Belgium this evening.

 

I do know one was in the first post in this thread but I am trying to add photos by country to give a more detailed record of what I have seen and to make it a bit easier for those looking at the thread to find their favourite countries.

Once again you may need a map to find the location.

 

 

Belgium Essene Lombeek SNCB Type AM75 emu 806 1st Aug 90 C14624

 

 

Belgium Essene Lombeek SNCB AM62 185 1st Aug 1990 C14625

 

 

Belgium Essene Lombeek SNCB AM62 185 1st Aug 1990 C14626

 

 

Belgium Essene Lombeek Type 83 398 and 418 1st Aug 90 C14627.

 

 

Belgium Essene Lombeek Type AM63 236 westbound 1st Aug 90 C14629

 

 

David

[DaveF]

One of the countries I visited in the summer of 1990 was Switzerland.

 

As usual I didn't just visit the tourist (or railway enthusiast) hot spots, I prefer to look at lots of other places as well.

 

So we'll start by looking at a few places in the northeast of the country.

 

 

The town of Stein am Rhein is on the north bank of the Rhein, the station is on the south side.   The town is well worth a visit to see the painted buildings.

Stein am Rhein SBB Re4/4ii 11291 Bulach to Chur 4th Aug 90 C14689

The town of Stein am Rhein is on the north bank of the Rhein, the station is on the south side.   The town is well worth a visit to see the painted buildings.

 

 

Kreuzlingen is further east and is the junction for Konstanz, over the border in Germany.

Kreuzlingen 4th Aug 90 14694

 

 

Kreuzlingen SBB Re 4/4ii 11298 Schaffhausen to Rorschach 4th Aug 90 C14695

 

 

KreuzlingenMThB ABDe44 12 Weinfelden to Konstanz 4th Aug 90 C14697

The MThb is the Mittel Thurgau Bahn, one of Switzerland's private railway companies.

 

 

Romashorn lies on the south side of the Bodensee (Lake Constance), the station is next to the lake.  It also has a harbour from which ferries leave for Friedrichshafen.  Some of them are operated by SBB.

Romanshorn BT Re4/4 96 Luzern to Romanshorn 4th Aug 90 C14704

The BT is the Bodensee Toggenburg Bahn, now part of the Sudostbahn.  The leading coach is a buffet car with parcels  luggage accommodation.

 

 

David

[The Stationmaster]

Romanshorn was (is?) the last 'major' station on the SBB with semaphore signals - nice to see them in one of your pics. 

[DaveF]

Romanshorn was (is?) the last 'major' station on the SBB with semaphore signals - nice to see them in one of your pics. 

 

I understand that the station was "modernised" between 2001 and 2003, the new signalling system is of course colour light using a  Siemens SIMIS C type electronic system  (according to Wikipedia).

 

The loco shed and goods depot were also taken out of use and pedestrian underpasses built.  This removed the need to move trains during layovers to give access for pedestrians to the ferry, which had been the case before.

 

David

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. A wonderful find this thread. I've given many 'likes' for the photo's posted so far, and I look forward to seeing more of the railways from the continent - which ever the country is.

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

[Alcanman]

Great pics of Switzerland from 1990.

 

I also visited during the summer of that year, staying at Interlaken. A half price ticket offer gave a great opportunity to explore the superb rail system.

 

I have a particular liking for SBB Re 4/4ii locos in red livery. Here's 11163 at Interlaken.

 

 

 

Mal

 

 

 

 

 

 

[DaveF]

This evening's photos, somewhat later than usual as I've only just come home from a church meeting.

 

Today we are at St Avold in 1967, east of Metz and not far from the German City of Saarbrucken.

 

Being in the area of Alsace Lorraine trains run on the right hand track, unlike most of the rest of France.

 

 

St Avold DBVT08 Frankfurt to Paris Aug 67 J0998

 

 

St Avold Aug 67 J999b

 

 

St Avold SNCF BB25xxx class light engine westbound Aug 67 J1002

 

 

St Avold Stainless Steel INOX coach Aug 67 J1004

 

 

St Avold SNCF BB12121 westbound coal Aug 67 J1005

 

 

David

Edited April 15, 2015 by DaveF

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. A good set of photo's of St Avold in 1967. As ever, the trains are fascinating, and it is interesting that they run on the right side track.

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

[EddieB]

Yes, that area famously has flyovers to cross over from left to right hand running.

 

But are you sure that's a BB9200 (1500V dc loco)?  I can't read the number clearly, but to me it looks more like one of the BB20100 class (BB20103), a dual system type likely to be found in that area, and which shared the same body style with.the BB9200.  Originally designated BB30000, this class of four locomotives has often been overlooked.

 

[Edit] On second thoughts, I'm not sure about that identification, as the BB20100s had a centrally-mounted headlamp above the cab windows.  Therefore I'm inclined towards a BB25100, BB25150, BB25200 or even the prototype BB20005 (later converted to a BB16000) - but not a BB9200!!!  Incidentally, the BB30001-4 which were renumbered as BB20101-4 shouldn't be confused with BB30001-2 which were a tri-current version of BB9400. [/Edit]

 

Why didn't I take much notice of those DB diesel trainsets?  Nowadays I find them eye-catching, but never seemed to pay them much attention when they were in regular service.

Edited April 14, 2015 by EddieB

[DaveF]

Yes, that area famously has flyovers to cross over from left to right hand running.

 

But are you sure that's a BB9200 (1500V dc loco)?  I can't read the number clearly, but to me it looks more like one of the BB20100 class (BB20103), a dual system type likely to be found in that area, and which shared the same body style with.the BB9200.  Originally designated BB30000, this class of four locomotives has often been overlooked.

 

[Edit] On second thoughts, I'm not sure about that identification, as the BB20100s had a centrally-mounted headlamp above the cab windows.  Therefore I'm inclined towards a BB25100, BB25150, BB25200 or even the prototype BB20005 (later converted to a BB16000) - but not a BB9200!!!  Incidentally, the BB30001-4 which were renumbered as BB20101-4 shouldn't be confused with BB30001-2 which were a tri-current version of BB9400. [/Edit]

 

Why didn't I take much notice of those DB diesel trainsets?  Nowadays I find them eye-catching, but never seemed to pay them much attention when they were in regular service.

 

 

Eddie,

 

Thanks for reminding me that DC locos are not found on AC routes!  Once again I just typed up a caption from Dad's notes without really thinking.  I think its either a BB25100 or a 25150 as I think the third number may be a 1, the last figure may be a 5, but I can't be sure.

 

David

[DaveF]

Back to Switzerland for this evening's selection.

 

The photos were once again taken in the north east of the country, at Romanshorn which is on the Bodensee (Lake Constance).

Some of the photos show things other than just trains!

 

 

Romanshorn station and harbour 4th Aug 90 C14698

 

 

Romanshorn semaphore signals 4th Aug 90 C14703

This shows the whole gantry.  The colour was quite poor on the original slide for some reason.

 

 

Romanshorn BT buffet car 4th Aug 90 C14705

BT - Bodensee Toggenburg Bahn

 

 

Romanshorn SBB Re4/4i 10028 Schaffhusen to Rorschach 4th Aug 90 C14711

 

 

Romanshorn SBB Re44ii 11112 Rorschach to Schaffhausen 4th Aug 90 C14713

 

 

Romanshorn SBB MV Santis 4th Aug 90 C14710

One of the SBB - Schweizerische Bundesbahn ferries

 

 

David

[NHY 581]

Smashing thread, David. In particular the selection of French photos.

 

If I may, anything from the Czech Republic in your archives?

 

Rob.

[DaveF]

Smashing thread, David. In particular the selection of French photos.

 

If I may, anything from the Czech Republic in your archives?

 

Rob.

 

No, Germany and Austria are the furthest east I've been.  From memory the photos will be from Switzerland, Germany, Austria, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Sweden plus odd ones from Italy, Luxembourg, Norway and even Liechtenstein.

 

The countries are roughly in order of quantity of photos.

 

David